LOS ANGELES — Ask many a teenage girl to which team are they most loyal and it's unlikely you'll hear about the Blackhawks, White Sox, Bears or Cubs. You'll probably get an earful about "hits" of a different kind from the new movie "The Twilight Saga: Eclipse." You're Team Edward if you love the moody vampire Edward Cullen, played by Robert Pattinson. Team Jacob is for fans of the usually shirtless, chiseled abs of Taylor Lautner's werewolf persona, Jacob Black.
Recently, I was a guest of Summit Entertainment in Los Angeles, talking with both actors, who are now on their third installment of fang-filled love tug of war.
You both have been through three different directors on these movie adaptations. What's been the difference for you?
Robert Pattinson: I don't know necessarily if it shows in the final film, but the difference between Chris Weitz ("New Moon" director) and David Slade ("Eclipse" director) is dramatic. Chris saw the first one and just thought that he wanted to follow along the road. David wanted to do it completely different from the first two. It all felt so fresh right from the first day. Edward's movement and such, from every single part of the performance, it just really shook it up a little bit.
Taylor Lautner: Well, Jacob gets a little more frustrated and a little heated in this one. It was very emotional for me. There are a lot of emotional scenes between Jacob and Bella (played by Kristen Stewart) and Jacob and Edward. He becomes very close to Bella, there's the much-talked-about kissing scene — but also all of the fighting scenes, so it was good ... it was much more dramatically challenging.
And what about that kissing scene with Kristen? I know that you're both very good friends. That has to be a little awkward.
TL: We are very close friends, but I wouldn't say it was awkward. After we finished a take of the kissing scene that was kind of steamy, there would be a moment of silence and then we'd look at each other and she'd go, "Ewww, we just kissed … weird." And then we had to do it again and again. After a while, it got kind of mechanical.
In the movie, your characters are both in love with Bella and in hot pursuit of her interests. She doesn't know which way to turn and even is at the core of the battle that breaks out in this film. In real life, could you be in a relationship that was so difficult to have?
RP: Oh, no way. I'm terrible at that. I can't even deal with people shouting at each other. The slightest bit of conflict and I'm gone immediately. It's one of the challenges of this movie for me. It's balancing the emotional aspects with the physical demands. Occasionally, there come moments where you have to portray a big story within a fight scene and it does become quite complicated.
Source Chicago Tribune
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AWWWWW POOR ROB!!! He cannot handle conflict... Neither can i! Rob come to me i won't give you any headaches!!! LOOOOOVVVVVVVVEEEEEEE your Suit... so different! So you!
http://www.popsugar.co.uk/Watch-Eclipse-Director-David-Slade-Confirm-Robert-Pattinson-Kristen-Stewart-Dating-Twilight-Eclipse-Premiere-8989989
Interesting...
I've read things before where he's alluded to some kind of emotional distance or disengagement in the area of personal relationships; not comfortable in persuing something, anything if he thinks it's not a sure thing, not being a confrontational sort and now, avoiding conflicts and wanting to retreat even from shouting. And the reason I say interesting is because I am very much the same way...
But I always figured it was due to my interupted upbringing in which my emotional foundation was shook to it's core leading to life altering insecurities and which led to the dichotomy of apathy (lack of emotional involvement) AND pathetic people pleasing (I'll do anything so long as you'll like me).
And from what I've been able to ascertain, his upbringing was nothing like mine. He's the adored baby, the beloved only son in a family where he essentially had three nurturers; a mother and two older doting female siblings and he probably didn't experience a day in his childhood when he didn't know that he was loved and adored. So...
I guess he's allowed to be as emotionally fucked up as the next person. But you'd think his emotional fuckery would manifest itself in self centeredness, entitlement and it doesn't seem to. He's insecure. Why do you suppose a person who's been so loved in his life, would turn out insecure? He should be confident. Shouldn't he?
And if a childhood like his doesn't turn out confidence, then what in hell will?
Interesting.
"Robert Pattinson & Taylor Lautner Talk Love" LMAO
Another nice interview by my home town guys. Thanks Tribune.
Nikola6, I think sometimes kids who grow up with lots of love being the sun in the firmament within their own family are insecure outside of it when there is competition. They are used to being loved without needing to do to much to earn it. I don't know, but he strikes me as a genuinely nice guy so the parents did a good job, but I do believe you can be fearful of conflict even with a good upbrining.
He's a spoiled rotten f^ckin' brat. Plus, you know what? His Mother wouldn't argue with me on this. LOL
He's fake. Kristen is fake. The only professional in this is Taylor. Get it?
He is 'multifaceted' Cheeky :) Not fake.
Scary but I just found out that a similar situation with me. Like Rob I got a good, caring upbringing but finished as the person surrendering and stay away from conflicts and relations as a whole . Others see as lack of assertiveness or excessive politeness. I'm ambitious, but the idea of achieving the chosen goal overwhelms me to such a degree that will not take any effort, or simply disappear.
I think that role is of successes and the growing demands . This fear of failure, and the ability to let down myself and the next people .Add to that the fear of criticism.It's paralyzing
@fire,
First time I've seen that interview.....very interesting.....
now it's coming from the director as well....
Interesting what Rob says. All human relationships involve some conflict, but yes, I too am the sort who avoids confrontation and shouting. I just shut down.
@fire...
So now we've got two directors and the producer on record. Not to mention the slip ups by Peter and Jennie during NM promotion. Now you'd think that these people who know and work with them might actually know something. Well, if you had any cognitive skills to speak of, you might think that.
The bizarro thing about all of this is that Rob and Kristen never said they weren't. They simply said they weren't going to talk about it. A HUGE, MASSIVE difference there. But in addition to our reading comprehension skills being way down, I suppose our hearing comprehension is suffering too and you need both of those skills if you're going to be able to pick up more than just SURFACE communication.
But they're proving right now that all of this technology is changing the way in which our brains perceive information in that were only picking up what's on the surface. Irony, subtext, conjecture, reasoning. Were not picking these things up. Hence...
'I WON'T BELIEVE IT TILL THEY STATE IT CATAGORICALLY OR I SEE A SEX TAPE'
And for some, nothing LESS will convince them, because they cannot pick up or see what's underneath the surface of this situation.
Although...
Is it just me or since Mr. Godfrey spoke with Time Magazine, have the doubters been a little 'quiet'? Did any of them even comment on that thread? Must admit haven't been paying a whole lot of attention the past few days.
I have lost a TON of respect for Mr. Pattinson, I am saddened to say. When he says he 'runs from conflict in relationships' what does that say for his character?? Not a whole lot. Life is FULL of conflicts and important decisions that must be made. He just runs from them???? I think he said once he was drawn to tough women; now I see why. Perhaps it's his age, and that explains it. I was not impressed. :(
@shari g . u r rite! it is a shock To go out into the big bad world and find u r not the centre if it. !
@audra . so what! like we give one!! luv u rob xx
Audra, what is there to disrespected about him... he doesn't like conflict in his life... Who does?
I am sure if he had to fight, he will. If someone is going to yelling and abusive with me... I will walk away too.
Please, you read a written interview... one of thousand and you lost respect?
I believe some of these comments were taken from Rob's WGN interview. Check it out if you haven't already:
http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=jeE1q45bhIs&feature=channel
Yeah. Sorry there Audra that this flawed human being just didn't measure up the expectations you placed on him.
And that is perhaps the biggest problem with fan worship. Fans project onto their OBJECTS what they NEED them to be and then when the OBJECTS disappoint them, the fan turns away.
I think this might be a lot more fun for people if they'd just learn to accept these OBJECTS as human beings for who they are and not who they want or NEED them to be.
Just an opinion. Could be wrong.
I never thought of Rob as some perfect being who isn't flawed. He's just like the rest of us.
ShariG...
Just read your comment and that makes a helluva lot of sense to me.
He may have had it a bit too easy and therefore wasn't prepared for the kick in the teeth that awaited him out in the harsh world.
Also makes sense that he'd be drawn to a strong person (an earth mother who was raised by an earth mother...that's what I've heard and earth mothers are STRONG women) who may on occasion act as a buffer between him and that harsh world OR when needs be, kicks him in the ass and tells him...'it's a tough world out there baby. get strong or get eaten alive'.
Interesting.
jmm4832...
EXACTLY! And that's why when he says or does things that might raise an eyebrow or too, we don't write him off. We accept him. Flaws and attributes all.
As we should with everyone.
I'm an earth mother and I cannot stand conflict. And when it comes to myself, I run; i aovd it. But mess with my kids--or anyone's kids and I know about it--and I AM A MOTHER BEAR!!! GGGRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
Nik, does Kristen remind you of an earth mother because of her strong convictions and values, and her homebody ways, i.e. she loves cooking and knitting, etc. I can totally see Kristen as a little mother someday.
jmm4832...
John and Jules may work in the industry but they're not your typical industry types, into all the fakery of Hollywood and they haven't raised their kids that way. They are into a more natural, simpler way of life; family, cooking, animals. And look at their daughter. Is there really anything "Hollywood" about her? No. She's a homebody who likes to bake and read and play with the critters and yes, I think she will combine motherhood with her career one day. Or maybe take a good long break, once she's really established, and stay home and raise her kids until they can fend for themselves.
And Solas...
I am an earth mother too even though I have no children of my own. I have discovered that you don't have to give birth in order to be a mother. Either you are one or you are not and bearing a child is not the deciding factor. If so, then we wouldn't see human mothers treat their offspring worse than animal mothers do. And while I may have trouble standing up for myself, anyone goes after someone I love and...look the hell out. Or if I see someone who looks like they are struggling or in distress (like a certain young man I encountered one day), then my first instinct is to comfort, protect and nurture.
Nik - I've wondered that about Rob too - why with all his adulation, admiration, love around the world and MILLIONS of $$$$ would he be the slightest bit insecure? But he may realize it could all be lost quickly if he screws up - look at Mel, Tiger, Jessie.
It seemed like when he was in HS didn't his father tell him he wasn't going to pay for his schooling anymore cause Rob was not attending to schoolwork and he either had to drop out or find a way to pay for it himself? Remember that he was expelled from school at 12?? That's when he went to the modeling agency to work with his mom and started making money and paid for his own schooling to finish up and graduate High School.
Perhaps dad felt he should go to university and get a better education - dad seems pretty smart - and Rob feels inadequate that he didn't rise to his dad's expectations on that issue????
But he's so surpassed their dreams now seems like any insecurities from the past would begin to be disappearing. Maybe in a few years when he realizes that his fans will still be there AFTER Twilight and he will be able to keep his career going well......he will reach the level of comfort in his own skin that we see in Johnny, Tom, Leo and others who have learned how to handle the business of rejection better.
When you have been loved so much as a child and never faced failure or learned how to handle losing and mom and dad shield you from all the harms of the world and protect you all the time and never expose you to life issues........it's hard to face the pain and conflict of life and handle rejection when it inevitably rears it's ugly head. Many kids really crack under the pressure.
I speak from experience on that one.
Parents mean well and think they are doing their kid a favor by shielding and protecting but what they REALLY need to do is teach them how to react to rejection, bullying, disappointment, pain and when people are rude to them.
THAT is what kids need just as much as the unconditional love and security of home.
Rob's brought up events in his life when he was beat up or teased or bullied and he, of course, joked about it but I wonder what happened, how he really handled it at the time. What caused it to even happen? Some kids are just plain rude but why did they target him?
We all have someone who loves us, likes us, admires us and doesn't like us or might even downright hate us. It's how you handle all of those that creates your character.
And Rob seems more confident and self assured than he did 2 years ago, I think.
As a star/celebrity - you are sometimes pampered, told what you want to hear, given free stuff, have friends around all the time that you don't have to work to have, you have money to get anything you want..............life isn't REAL........you don't HAVE to deal with confrontation - you can have someone else do it for you and shield you from it.
I'd imagine that if Rob had a problem with a girl............he wouldn't have too hard of a time finding another that would not give him a problem, don't you?
But then, what is that girl doing, giving up her opinions and freedoms to be his "yes woman"? I don't think he'd like that either. I've read that he LIKED to debate, likes politics, likes arguing so this article is way different from that info.
What a dichotomy he is. He sure keeps us guessing and interested.
Gosh I'm sorry - I didn't realize I'd written a book!!
@femrock
OMG I LOVE Ur THOUGHTS
femrock...
Yeah. Whadda ya mean writing a book there? I'm da book writer around here and don't you fergit it!!! LOL! Actually I love it when someone else writes a long post because believe it or not, I am very insecure where my posts are concerned. I'm always waiting for someone to yell at me...
'OH FOR THE LOVE OF CHRIST WILL YOU SHIT THE FUCK UP ALREADY'
I swear. Everytime I write a long post, I wait for that response. Oh dear. But I loved yours. You made some exceptional points there but two I want to hit on...
1. He's still got some growing up to do. And yes, he has grown up quite a bit since just a couple of years ago when this Twilight juggernaut began. And things he's saying today are going to be very different from things he's going to be saying in five years (that is if he's still speaking to the public in five years). So we have to take all of this in the context of a young man who's trying to finish growing up with cameas and microphones stuck in his face looking for answers and sometimes I think he shoots off with the first thing that pops into his head and it may have absolutely nothing to do with his truth. But what does come shining through is the genuineness of the boy. He's real.
2. He's real. And I don't believe he's going to let the fakery of fame take him down. If that were going to happen, it would have during the first flush of fame during 2009. It's during the first rush of it that they usually go off the rails. If they don't do it then, chances are, they aren't going to.
For all of his growing up that he has yet to do, this boy has an innate wisdom about him. He is an old soul as am I and I tend to recognize my own. However, I may have a few earth years on him but he is much older than me in soul years. He knows things at 22, 23, 24 that took me 20 years more than that to figure out.
Also...you brought up something on another thread about Rob's interview on the Today Show where he said he was looking for a date. I responded to your question. Can't remember the thread though. I think it's still on the first page and has about 60-61 comments. Would not mind hearing your response to my response.
I think he's strong. He's determine... I remember he ahd said in one interview that when he told his parent that he was going to give up acting after his Twilight audition he was going to come home... they had said allright! He said right... I am detemine to get that role now.
He also said that someone had sent him the link for the 75000 online petition against him getting the Edward role... he was bloody determine to do it and do a good job by going to extreme... I read something... God... do I have a life reading all these interview. LOL.
I think what he's saying... is he's interested in a triangle... either you want me or not... walks away... call me when you decide...
JMHO.. I could be wrong.
Nik and Papagaj - Thanks for your response -
Oh Nik - I don't know if I can find that thread but I'll try cause I'd love to know what you said about him asking for a date - that totally threw me.
I enjoy reading your posts - long though they may be - we appreciate an insiders views and you always present your ideas so well, funny, clever and insightful.
Nik -
I found your post on the I wanna date comment and totally agree that must have been what he meant. And was he just "throwing that out there" to tell his fans to back off so he CAN have a normal date with Kristen?
There is no way they could ever have an actual date like a normal couple cause they are not a normal couple in the eyes of the press anyway. They want to be normal and try really hard to do it but the public and press put them up on this giant pedestal so they/we can observe their every move.
To have a real date they'd have to be very creative..........like BUY the whole theater and pay the crew to lock the doors, show the movie and pop them some damn popcorn!!! Or do like I heard Michael Jackson used to do .......he'd go to shop at stores AFTER hours and pay them to open up just for him.
It's hard enough in today's busy world to date normally but in their world??????? No way!
um, and maybe he was just screwing around when he said that like he loves to do???
we're gettin' all sigmund freud here
LMAO@SHIT THE FUCK IT.
SHIT???
I have always thought he faced with life's hard face and he truely loved someone he has a different wiev of point may because of his family or something else but it just makes me love him more I think he needs loyalty and respectful relationship
@marcycoby:
This Tribune interview WAS taken from the WAGN video that you posted. The interviewer has merged some of his own comments with Rob's comments which shows the liberties that ivrs take!
The real footage about conflict etc, was:
IVR: When I was watching the movie, the overwhelming thing that kept on coming up in my mind is.... I would never stay in a relationship that was this difficult to have!
Rob: (Laughing and nodding)
IVR: Would you, in real life?
Rob: (shaking his head) Oh, no way, I’m terrible at that - I can’t even deal with ...shouting! (laughing)
IVR: You get a little sliver of conflict and you’re gone?!
Rob: Laughing: Immediately! (laughing)
That was ALL he said! Most of it was put in his mouth with Rob laughing and agreeing which is not exactly the same as if he said it. I’ve read so much rubbish about Rob now that I never believe printed interviews unless I’ve heard Rob say the same quote on video. Ivrs nearly always change things and facial expression and tone or lightheartedness is lost!
Exactly TotallyRobbed! That's one of the reasons why I posted it, some people here were taking his "comments" too seriously, like that one who said she had lost respect for him. Huh?
They were BOTH joking about how difficult the Edward and Bella relationship would be to stay in. And the question in the article wasn't exactly like how it was in the video interview.
And I agree, that's one of the reason I don't like printed interviews, they do change stuff around, whether it's his answer or the question he is answering.
Marcy:
Yes, that printed interview made it sound flat and serious - it didn't mention that he was laughing. And yes, it led to quite a deep debate and it may not have been deep at all.
The only way to get Rob words is to watch him on video!
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