Hi CL - video is cute. has K saying that she used to believe when tabloids said co-stars were dating, but now since they are writing about her & Rob she doesn't believe them anymore & T is saying the whole cast gets along really well, good friends...
There is definatly no competion, Rob would always win, glad they are good friends though.
RL sucks gearing up for a four day hospital stay and my lap top just crashed yesterday, I dont know what I am going to do with myself not being able to check ROBsessed everyday.
Thanks Rpatz. I have to have a hysterectomy so hopefully everything will go good. I just finished water for elephants on my trip over the weekend and loved the book, I cant wait for the movie, I have both twilight and New moon on my Ipod so I plan on watching those while I am there.
@acullengirl: what kind of stuff do you like to read? Maybe some of us on here have some recommendations. Obviously not too funny: we don't want to be responsible for burst stitches.
@ dina LOL! I got my assistants to distract you while I sneaked in all ninja-ish! @acullengirl Wishing you a speedy recovery. Take some RobPorn in to cheer you up, the nurses will love you for it :))
Thanks everyone for the well wishes, My sister hooked me up with a butt load of books so I should be good, but I will miss perving on ROBsessed. Hopefully when I get home the laptop will be back up and running.
maybe it's because we love rob,but it have who likes taylor more than rob okay ladies,now let me break down thw nice things about taylor 1 nice teeth,2abs,3 back flip ,4ketches grapes in mouth,5 love miley cyrus and that;s it don't even reaD A book may be comic!lolrob is so much more in every way and that why is 1
@acullengirl I hope everything goes well and that you're back soon :D
@BellaMarie247
i know you mentioned it like @ the beginning of the thread but ITA with you...Kristen almost made me believe her but then again actions speak more than words and those looks they give each other are to die for
@est a quote from sex and the city I watched yesterday. Samantha drooling over some buffed up guys from Australia. "Those men from down under (looking at her ve@ina) and down under nothing."
Angie... the main difference btwn Siss and I is that I used the familiar "you" form (tu), and she used the more formal one (vous).
(If I was telling somebody to lay back and let me love them, I hope I'd be comfortable enough to call them "tu" ! It's a stylistic difference and both are correct. Mine would start with this sentence, which I didn't originally translate:
What is she doing? She lets Elle UK see a picture on her Ipod (by the way, does anybody else keep pictures on their Ipod? I never even thought of doing that) which they imply is her & Rob looking like a couple, & now she implies that they aren't. Just make up your mind already, either don't say anything, or say one thing. Don't go back & forth between yes & no because it's really annoying.
I don't think that Kristen is saying that they are not together but just don't believe the press when it comes to the stories that are written about them. Example: they are engaged, she is pregnant, they are moving in together, have broken up etc etc. There is so much bull out there, you just can't believe everything you read. They are together but half the stuff you hear is not true, regarding their relationship.
hi cullenpattz,everything will be okay,i will surely say a pray for you tonight,and ladies have you ever notice kristen and never just say one thing she always have to say more and marana,people who go back and forth yes it is annoying,nd if is rob and kristen you are speaking about she try to make people not believe,but not rob he just not say any thing,and people say he is more in love with her no i do not think so she hide her feeling better sometimes,and i say sometimes because other than that time for RM promition that he 3days in NY,rob never came back to the US until after the reshoot on eclipse and another thing we no rob a little kristen knows rob up close and personal,lol!!!!!!!!!!
She didn't mean her and Rob aren't together she meant not to believe everything you read, such as "she's pregnant, they broke up" She wants to knock the pack off the scent. But without lying. Very clever Kristen. Love her.
i had a language problem and i was very worried cuz i don't know why i thought that "under down" meant something like "be down" or "going under" and i thought rob was sad and i said "what??? they're saying that? really?"
i know what i'm saying is a stupid thing but you know my language problems ;)
I don't understand this girl. She doesn't want to talk about relationships and yet shows a reporter pics from an ipod( who keeps pics on an ipod btw?..and now people know there are incriminating photos.. good job Kristen. that was some genius move right there) and then she says things like how we shouldn't believe what is being written in tabloids.
If she doesnt want people commenting on her life then stop giving people something to comment on. No one said she had to disclose she was dating Rob or not. I just think its a little hypocritical of her to say she values privacy and then does things to warrant attention. I never liked her and that is no secret, but I did respect her sticking to her guns and not commenting on it. I just would rather her not say anything at all. I hate the ambiguity.
@cullengirl >Good Luck & best wishes for a speedy recovery. just think positive and look ahead to seeing new Rob delights when Eclipse comes out. & Remember Me on DVD. I'm waiting for my copy of WFE from Amazon, and get such a rush of adreneline when I think of seeing him in new situations...hearing him say new words...isn't that nuts? I've worn out my copies of Twilight and NM, watched DVDs Little Ashes and How to Be..and need MORE MORE MORE! What can I say?
@ROBessed89..those looks melt me. There's alot of chemistry between him and her. Let's face it, we would all look at him that way if we could, but would he look back at us that way? In my dreams he would...yes, dreams are a good thing.
I see his face everywhere I go, & It's not just in my mind...it's on TV, in the supermarket, the dr's office, bus stops...and while I know he can't be overexposed to ME, I imagine it can become a problem for him at some point. As the conversation on another thread points out, overexposure is problematic.
@Grace @Shane--I totally agree with you both. She's politely asking people to not believe the covers of Star, Life & Style, and all the horrendous websites like Perez, etc.
Oh and I keep photos, videos, movies and tons of crap on my iPod. Just sayin.
@acullengirl - have a very speedy recovery and hope you are back to Robsessed very soon.
@caroleUK - it's wearing but they have to face that question all the time. I don't think it's an outright denial though.
@shane04 - ITA. The first time I saw this clip I thought K was denying the relationship but I watched it again and I agree, I think it's about all the nonsense about their relationship that she's saying not to believe. The Sun and the OK! always seem to know the gifts and surprises they are planning for eachother - all the rubbish. It would be odd if she was denying the relationship altogether because I've never seen a serious denial from either of them on video in the last year. She does seem at the end of her tether these days. I hope she's OK, it's hard to tell because, like Bella, she is difficult to read.
For the sake of their sanity, I can't wait for the whole Twilight Saga to end so they can just enjoy their youth and do other creative things that please them. We'll always have the films and the clips and photos.
Marna and Steph, she didn't show anyone anything, the writer said that Kristen asked her to pass her the ipod from the glove compartment and she happened to see a picture of Rob and Krist & her cat. Kristen then grabbed the ipod and threw it back into the glove compartment and turned up the volume on the radio so she wouldn't have to talk to the woman.
It was interesting that on one of the TV shows they said afterwards that they were not allowed to ask any personal questions at all, and if they had attempted to they would have pulled the plug on all interviews that day (the other panelists asked the girl who did the interview why she didn't ask Kristen about Rob).
I went to the Q&A session (beamed to a local cinema) and the other thing that was not discussed on that night (at all) or on any interview I've seen was Breaking Dawn.
@acullengirl--Pardon my poor manners. I wish you well with your surgery and a very speedy recovery and back to the blog and ROBsessing as soon as possible.
@ Steph please i just want to tell you something but please don't get me worng, don't misinterpretme.
If i'm not wrong, i think you're not a Kris fan (but you always show respect to her) but i've noticed that, the few times you're here you always (or almost) talk about kris, why??? don't get me wrong please but it just seems you're a little bit obsessed with kris. I'm not saying what you have to say or not, of course!!! say what you want, but i've seen you having long conversations with people here and i just don't understand why you always comment something about her, analyzing everything, if you don't like her.
Again, don't misinterpretme, this is not an attack, just a critic, cuz i like reading you cuz you express yourself very eloquently
I analyze a lot because its in my nature. It is also my major in college. I try to find ways to like her and try to find the good with the bad. I think I only comment on Kris because it is the only thing that riles me up. I like debating and the only thing we all seem to debate on is them..or if Rob does something completely outlandish. I stayed off the website for awhile preferring not to comment. I prefer not to sugar coat things even for Rob and a lot of people can't handle that on this sight. I mostly comment when someone else is in line with my beliefs or else I don;t say anything at all.
Don't worry I know you didn't mean any harm. It's not so much that I'm obsessed with her. It's more like I'm obsessed with analyzing anything that has to do with Rob.
@ Steph thank you so much for answering me so kindly, i'm really thankful.
yes, i've notice you haven't been here for a while. I understand you perfectly and i think your reasons are very good. I like to debate too (as you can see) but maybe it's not very good going over it again and again, what do you think?
Marna & Steph: it's all a matter of perspective, don't you think? I don't see any waffling in what Kristen says, which still boils down to: don't believe the wild stories about us in the tabloids, but the real story of our personal tie is our business and I won't expound upon it.
That doesn't mean she doesn't have to answer questions about Rob and their rapport, because as long as she's being interviewed about anything related to Twi, questions about how she gets on with her costar will always come up. And she always answers them as graciously as possible, trying to keep things professional...... as they should be.
As Rob said, they "cryptically avoid the question..." Which means playfully dancing around it, without answering, or denying, or being impolite. I don't see that as hypocritical. Ambiguous? Yes, by choice!
I personally find it very touching that Kristen keeps photos of people and pets who are important to her on her phone, just like any other love-struck girl! It would be sad to think that even that little pleasure was denied her, because prying eyes might see them and blab, which is exactly what happened. She was brave enough to run that risk.... and lost. Let's hope things like this don't make them shut down completely.... for their sakes, not ours!
Once again, neither has admitted or denied anything...
She only meant not to believe everything you read, it's not a denial or admission...if we believed everything in the rags, they have bought a love nest, got engaged, got pregnant, broke up...I mean, really???
Don't take everything so literally...
I'm glad she keeps saying this kind of stuff because it's no ones business anyway...she doesn't have to call attention to herself, it's there in her face everyday...
Even if you don't like her (and you certainly don't have to) at least respect the fact that she's a big part of Rob's life...I know it would hurt me if people criticized every move my friends (or lover) made.
Ahhhh... RPG, if you're still around Company Loves Misery updated!!
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5577199/12/
Newbies beware: the latest by AngstGoddess is wonderfully written, genuine, bare..... and brutal! Very good but hard read about the nature of addiction and redemption. Wonderful story, if you like things that shake you up.
@ rpatt if we believed everything in the rags, that would mean we have a serious problem with our criteria to select the info sources, and i think we are mature enough to choose, aren't we? :D i hope that...
No hard feelings. If people are kind and respectful to me regardless of their opinion then we are okay. I have said this before, but I love debating with people.
Maybe it is not necessarily healthy, but that is just how I am. I am one of those persistent people who does not stop until every question has an answer.
You always seem respectful of others and I appreciate it.
@Lou
It is perspective. I do try to look at it from all angles. My point was that if this girl values privacy so much then why even discuss it or give responses or show actions that allude to something? Do you get what I am saying?
At the end of the interview (involving her ipod) she showed the journo the pictures. She also told the journo that she wishes she could be excited about things the way normal people are instead of hiding things. I just try and understand her pathos. She could solve that issue by admitting it, but then it goes against everything she has said.
It's not that I think her and Rob are lying. I just liked it better when they didn't comment on it and didn't give a reason to comment. I respected that about them. Of course the journo was going to write that she saw Kris's pics in an article and of course the tabloids are going to talk about the same stories involving them whether they admit they are together or not. I just think that "wanting to be proud" of the people you are involved with would be a lot easier if you didnt have to hide it because you dont want people to know you are dating. There lives would be so much easier if they didn't have to hide the fact that they held hands when they walk down the street or come up with cutesy little avoidance techniques. I always saw Kristen as more of a head on type of person and not one to dance around something. Rob is a dancer lol, but Kris I always took her for someone who had a DGAF attitude (in a good way). I just think the both of them make it 10x more complicated than it needs to be.
I do respect the fact that she keeps quiet..especially for this long. I just sort of get the feeling that she is kind of eating her words right now because it is more apparent that they are an item and the both of them cant avoid answering the question forever.
To sum up- if thy dont comment at all and work hard not to be seen together than they could avoid the majority of drama
if they just fess up. both eat their own words and the tabloids wont stop with them, but at least they dont have to be paranoid with the fact that incriminating photos will leak.
Sorry for the long rant lol. I hope I got my point across.
@ yes Steph, i can see you're very persistent by your comments, like i said, but i respect it's just the way you are, i'm a little bit weird and radical sometimes so... what can i say?
ok, i think we had a bebate so we're happy cuz that's what we like right?? ;D
BTW i got worried when i saw that loooong comment, i'm happy everything is not adressed to me cuz i'd take me 1 hour to translate it ajajajajaj
@rpg ITA!!! AND...Doesn't there have to be a shade of equal footing for a competiton to take place? Yes, you say.That's what I thought. NO COMPETITION.. Rob all the way!!!
Steph - I call BS on your comment that you just like to debate. I think you like to stir up conflict & pounce whenever you get the opportunity like today with a kstew post. Maybe I'm the one stirring up conflict now, but that's just how I see it.
Just want to add to Loisada's newbie warning. Angstgoddess is an incredible writer, I think that Wide Awake is the standard that all Twilight FF has to live up to, & very few do, BUT, & this is a big BUT, she's all gung ho when she starts writing a story, but then she doesn't update for months. She started Misery Loves Company with 2 updates a week, then droped to 1, & now this is the first update since February or March I think, & she has other stories that she seems to have just walked away from. You might want to wait until she's finished writing it before you read it to save yourself the aggravation.
No worries girl! I sometimes forget not everyone speaks English as a first language. I speak with a lot of local colloquialisms (slang) made worse by the fact that I am a New Yorker. If I ever confuse you in anyway just ask and I'll be happy to help you out.
I can understand Italian, but since it is not a first language I tend to get confused when people use slang so I completely understand!
@Steph is Legit, I agree with your sentiments that we who adore Rob but may want to lend some constructive criticism for his futre, career, or outlook on all things Twilight are silenced because many here feel it is their happy place.
I find debating an issue intresting whether it be Kristen and Rob dating, their acting, the media (especially paparazzi) and anything associated with Rob. I wish both Kristen and Rob would just say "No comment" on any question involving their relationship. It is no one's business and the press would be unable to put any spin on their answer involving their relationship. The press will make up whatever they want over these two because that is what sells and many of us are at fault for buying or going on these websites to hear the smut, myself included.
So I agree with your sentiments about expressing yourself on this site, I may not always agree with you on Kristen, but I do enjoy your commentary as well as the others on this site. I believe this is one of the best sites on Rob and all things Twilight.
I really do like to debate. I don't actively look to start conflict, but sometimes what I say does and I am sorry I offend you. I am always honest and I hate BS myself. You can say whatever you want in terms of calling BS on my comments and motives, but do you ever read what I write? Or do you just assume that since not everyone is a fan of Kristen they are all bad people? I have been nothing but respectful to you, but this is the second time you have attacked me.
I am not on this website often because I have a job and also because I try to refrain from commenting on them. I always feel the need to defend myself to you. I just don't understand what your deal is. You accuse me of attacking and pouncing, but as soon as you se my name in a blog you pounce on me.
It's not like what I am saying is terribly insulting. I am just giving an opinion. I have said before that K as a topic riles me up. If someone brings it up (which they have) then you better believe I will comment on it because I like debating it and mulling it over. If you don't like me I honestly don't give a damn, but you can easily just not read my comments if you don't like them.
You probably arent even going to read this so why even bother.
i have never came on this thread this intrested,yes here is about rob but sometimes it could be about his intrest!and my god she is his intrest,steph what you said,is so true and we all love rob,he is young a looker and male i just hope they say somerthing soon because needs some-one to truly love him he deserves it he is to sweet to not hve love like what a partner is about
Please refresh my memory, when have I attacked you before? And I would hardly call this an "attack" - I just voiced my opinion.
I do read your comments, to a point, then it just gets monotonous. You don't like K, I get it.
Offended is not really the right word. I'm not offended, more along the line of irritated that the only times you do decide to comment it is rarely supportive.
You know love or hate em, they put up with a lot shit..I could never do it...I really don't know how anyone could stand someone following them and snapping their photo at every turn...it's a lot to handle at any age....
I would seriously flip out, then lose my career for sure!
ahahah it ok it means TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU lol...girl don't worry im getting the hang of them i've only been on this blog like maybe 2 weeks.................... and i LOVE IT :D
I really dont want to fight with you, but a couple months or few months not sure of the exact timeline. you and a few others pretty much berated me for my feelings on kstew. You have stated that since this site is called ROBsessed then we should love everyone Rob loves. While I do agree it is a good gesture I could not follow it. I thought that I was only here for Rob and it didnt mean I had to agree with what he did, but support it nonetheless. and you and a few others pretty much attacked me for my opinion.. I am not saying you went after me violently with fitch forks or anything, but I felt like i was being ganged up on and you were all not even willing to listen to reason.
I get that people who don't K are irritating to you and what I say is monotonous to you, but if you feel that way then why comment on me? If I apparently spout the same sh*t then wouldnt that give you the okay to just pass over my comments?
I am really trying to be civilized towards you, and I get that you dont think I am supportive. Regardless I will tell it like it is. I am not always happy with Rob's decisions but I do try and support him. I am barely on this site anymore and when I do comment it is something that grabs my attention. The whole Robsten thing happens to be an attention grabber to me. I support Rob with whomever he is with. It just doesnt mean I have to agree with him. We are both entitled to our opinions. I just wish you could see where I come from more.
I would like to get past this with you. I want you to understand where I come from with things. I get that I am tough to handle and I am also very critical by nature. I am sory that irritates you..I really am. I will try to see your perspective more as well.
I feel that this site is made up for bout 10 ppl n knowbobdy else matters, been reading this this site for what seems like ever, but if you dont fit in you dont matter., soz been drinking, its now half past daft in the morning, gonna wake up 2 morrow feelin shit, n wondering what i was doing here in the first place.
try not to comment when your drunk lol. I always stumble on this site and then regret it immediately and I'm usually sober lol.
But I agree. Perhaps I am one of these 10 ppl you are referring to, but I sometimes feel out of the loop because I have differing opinions than the majority of people.
To me, your are welcome here and I hope everyone here with with nice to you as well regardless of where your opinion stands lol
Just my thought on interpreting K's statement re. not believing the gossip rags on celeb "couples" and how she believed it until they starting writing about her and you-know-who. As I distinctly recall, way before there was ANY evidence whatsoever that she and Rob were more than just compatible co-stars and friends, the rags totally fabricated a romance between them, manipulating photos, creating ridiculous stories and scenarios to FEED the Twilight E/B frenzy and sell their rags. It worked. The Twihard girl fans gobbled it up and internet "shippers" were born.
It's slowed down, but the rags are still doing it (I picked one up at the hair salon and couldn't believe the BS I was reading, it was laughable.) Hmm, could it have anything to do with the release of Eclipse, putting them front and center again?? Of course it does.
She has to constantly be guarded responding to the questions and interest, not wanting to CHEAPEN her real life relationship for public consumption, "feeding the frenzy" and the rags, hiding any evidence of it, when it's such an important and fulfilling part of her life, and same for him. Little things have slipped out the most recent being the iPod picture, I guess. Good God, to be 20 yrs old, at the top of your game (arguably) and in love (possibly), happy and having to watch your every word and movement when all you want to do is say YES! Don't envy her or him either. Filtering isn't his strong point.
you are right. I do feel bad that she has to watch what she says and what not. I just think that they won't stop reporting on them regardless of a confirmation. Rags (and us) will sit here and interpret every word and analyze body language or come up with some sort of reasoning for why things appear to be a certain way. I just think that saying she is in a relationship will allow her more freedom. Both of them more freedom. It must suck to walk next to your bf and cant even hold his hand or look him in the eye for too long because then people will take it as a confirmation, but if they did say yes then no one would think anything of it. They would be acting just the way normal couples do. They wouldnt have to disclose anything, the same redundant stories will always be there, but at least they wouldnt have to deal with people questioning why they are holding hands or why she flew to hungary.
They dont owe us a damn thing and they are free to do as they want. I just wish that they wouldnt comment on it at all and leave us oblivious than dangle a carrot. I know they dont dangle it purposely, but the ambiguity sort of does it itself.
@StephisLegit, I have mentioned you as someone whose comments I appreciate (you missed that long thread dust-up), despite your opinion of K, which I respect. Don't get your dander up. Fights come and go, feelings get hurt, and then heal, apologies are made, we agree to disagree. I've made my peace with the NBs (I hope) and although groups get formed around what comments people want to read or not, it all comes out in the wash. We're here for the SAME damned reason. If we all agreed and posted the same comments over and over, it would be SOoo fucking boring :)) Bottom line.
Bottom line is that Rob and Kristen have never come out and admitted to being together and they don't want to. Why can't everyone just let them live their lives and not worry about what they are or aren't doing? I'm as guilty as the next person of analyzing it but truth be told they don't owe us any explanations. It is none of our business.
I've been reading everyone's comments on Kristen showing her 'personal' pictures to the journalist and the different reactions, but what freaked me out was the comment on how she compares her fame with being rapped. Huh??? Very disturbing, I feel sorry for sexually assaulted people. I think she'll get slaughtered for it. That comment made me cross the bridge between not really caring for her to really disliking her. This person needs to stop complaining about her life! Even if you took Rob out of the picture, she still has it pretty great in my book!
I'm not trying to start anything. Seriously, if you love her, ignore me. But was anyone else seriously ticked off by her ass-talking???
I don't like Kristen, but I do have to sort of defend her on that one.
I think her comment was taken out of context. When I first read it I was outraged. I thought to myself "good now people will finally see where I am coming from with her", but then I read it again. She compared it to seeing someone get rapped as opposed to her getting raped.
I mean maybe she should have reconsidered what she said, but I dont think it was meant to be interpreted that way.
I mean I wish every celeb would stop complaining about being stalked by paps and why I do feel they have no right to complain I get a reality check when I see how intrusive they are. I hardly watch ROb pap videos, but I mostly look at the pictures. Pictures don't seem intrusive, but the videos prove they are.
The paps use the negativity we spout to and fire it back at the celebs. I saw a fan video of Dakota Fanning and Kristen where the paps were like "what makes you tink you are good enough for rob" "fans say you are mean, what is your opinion?" they say such horrible things to her and no one hears that side of them being in her personal space.
while I do think her comment wasn't well though out. I do feel she didnt mean it in that context. It's sort of like people saying "It was like watching a a car accident, I just couldnt look away" some ppl might get ticked off by that statement because they knew someone who died/injured. A lot is taken out of context.
Believe you, me, I am no Kristen fan, but I try to be faie to her regarding certain things.
@Steph, my last comment to you was BEFORE I saw your response to mine. Hope we don't pass each other again LOL.
I absolutely agree, but have you seen Oprah, the backstage interview, read the USA interview at O's studio following the show, AND the little photo shoot of the 3of them with Rob leaning into K's face?? The "guard" came down just an eentsy bit, not staged. When they're feeling comfortable and not on the spot, they tend to reveal. They know that we know, but they aren't going to shout it out.
I just wish they would either come out and just say it, or not comment on it at all, and by not commenting I mean I dont want pictures or interviews that allude to anything, but i realize that this is all what I WANT and what I want isnt always what is needed or wanted.
I prefer things very straight forward and in black and white..the shades of grey are killing me lol
Proclaiming your partner is a natural and healthy aspect of any relationship. The only time I've heard of a "secret"relationship is when members of the relationship were ashamed, up to no good, or hiding something. You don't have to reveal everything. A simple "yes" or "no" and "no further comments" will do the trick.
Rob and Kristen aren't the only celebrity couple, but the mystery surrounding their relationship creates the stories.
A wise man once told me, "if a man cannot claim you as his , he doesn't really love or want you" and any woman who refused to claim her man doesn't want him. Its perfectly natural to want to hug, kiss, hold hands, or smile when your talking about your mate ... where ever the two of you are!
Honestly, Why would anyone want to spend so much time in any relationship hiding it?
Would any of you deny that you were involved with Robert Pattinson? and would anyone want him to deny that he was with them?
Proclaiming your partner is a natural and healthy aspect of any relationship. The only time I've heard of a "secret"relationship is when members of the relationship were ashamed, up to no good, or hiding something. You don't have to reveal everything. A simple "yes" or "no" and "no further comments" will do the trick.
Rob and Kristen aren't the only celebrity couple, but the mystery surrounding their relationship creates the stories.
A wise man once told me, "if a man cannot claim you as his , he doesn't really love or want you" and any woman who refused to claim her man doesn't want him. Its perfectly natural to want to hug, kiss, hold hands, or smile when your talking about your mate ... where ever the two of you are!
Honestly, Why would anyone want to spend so much time in any relationship hiding it?
Would any of you deny that you were involved with Robert Pattinson? and would anyone want him to deny that he was with them?
"All you see is an actor or a celebrity lit up but a flash. It's so... The photos are so... I feel like I'm looking at someone being raped. A lot of the time I can't handle it. It's f-cked. I never expected that this would be my life."
I know celebrities are victims of the media all the time. They take a bad picture of them and say they were drunk. They say something stupid, and they take it out of context to mean something much, much worse. But Kristen's comment is really not defensible. I’m guessing she’s never actually witnessed a rape, I’m sure she’d take the paps any day, as annoying and terrible as they may be.
We all have jobs and they have their down sides. Yep, hers suck, big time. But she needs to watch her mouth. She is not THAT much of a victim. If she seriously feels this way, I would a) advice her to seek professional help, and b) advice her to pursue a different career.
I don’t hate the girl. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, I reserve hatred for people who are truly evil and have bad intentions. I believe K has none. However, if she has such a difficult time saying the right things, perhaps she should consider keeping quiet. She needs to get to that point where she can be grateful for what she has and simply take the good with the bad, as we all try to do.
I agree with 90% of what you said,but I do respect that both of them are still trying to hold onto some semblance of privacy. It's admirable, but it seems as if the cat is out of the bag at this point?
@LeeC, I'm going with Steph on this one, so I'm not going to repeat what she said, very well. All I'll say, and I've said it before here, Kristen NEEDS someone to mentor her on how to speak and deal with the interviews and questions she gets asked. She's awkward, nervous, has troubling expressing what she wants to say, and therefore it can, and often has, come out wrong. I've read and heard enough about her, to know with certainty, that she would be totally crushed and embarrassed that her comments could be interpreted that way. She doesn't always get it right (why she needs mentoring), but she takes herself and her words VERY seriously. Before I get stick for commenting too much on Kristen on ROBsessed, I'm leaving. Unless Steph says something else...
I completely agree with what has been said. While I know that stage acting and Tv/Movie acting are very different, I do feel that if all these stars loved the craft so much then why not work in theater? It is because they want money, fame, success and glamour, but then once they have it how do they turn it off?
I stand behind this 100% Why do we never see pictures of Johnny Depp, Julia Roberts, Leo DiCaprio, Will Smith, Jamie Fox, etc. We only see them at events. These people stay out of the public eye because they dont want to be seen. You are only seen if you want to be seen.
I know I am especially hard of Kristen frankly because I dont care for her to much and i look for little confirmation biases the same way the pro-kristen people look for theories that disprove my point. We all have a stance, but I am trying to give her the benefit of the doubt and say that what she said was taken out of context...it doesnt mean i forgot the other comments she has made in the past.
Steph, just curious but why do you spend so much time talking about Kristen if you dislike her? The only time I ever see you posting is when there's a thread about Kristen.
I completely get where you are coming from. I dont mean for it to seem like I'm attacking you because I am not =)
As I said before, I just dont think she thinks about what she says before she says it and who can get hurt by her statements. It was wrong of her to say and she definitely shouldn't have said it, but I think it was sort of an exaggeratory statement.
I 'm sort of 50/50 on it. I think you are right in a way and then again so am I.. it's hard to draw a line for this one.
Jesus god...this isn't a debate, this is a fucking witch hunt...
No wonder Rob and Kris are scared to death with the likes of you people...
No matter what they say or don't say, someone is going to judge them and tear them down. It's one thing not to like someones work, it's another to personally say nasty things about them...
I would feel ashamed if Rob were to ever read some of these comments..
Thankfully they have each other, and good friends around them and solid family foundations to help them with being in the spotlight.
How perfect to walk around all the time and have everything you say be up for debate or torn to shreds..
Are you all so perfect?
It' one thing to have an opinion on a subject, it's another to tie to them to the stake and set them on fire...
this is like the 4th time I have answered this today lol. She is a topic that interests me..more of the Robsten phenomenon interests me and by extension i guess that includes her. Its also the one things that riles me up and brings me out of the woodworks while I should be going to sleep because i have to get up for work at 5:45.
I was just at Lainey's and saw she wrote a note on K's comments and interview. I haven't been to her page in a while but I do know she is a HUGE K supporter. And she had something to say about Kristen's words. I recommend you read it: http://laineygossip.com/Kristen_Stewart_dumb_comments_in_Elle_UK_and_promotes_Twilight_Eclipse_with_Taylor_Lautner_in_Austra.aspx?CatID=0&CelID=0
It's especially good because she is not being mean to the girl like other gossip places are. Lainey never seems to be too nasty, or at least what I've read, she simply states what seemed obvious to me: that Kristen needs to be a little less egocentrical (sp?). Oh, and I thought it was funny she said ass-talking… just my thoughts. LOL
I know you can say something and have people misunderstand you, or simply misconstrue your words unfairly. I just find it terribly hard to misunderstand comparing her uncomfortable and sucky extreme fame and being raped. She didn’t use the word invaded, she didn’t use the word aggravated, she didn’t use a whole bunch of words that would have accurately described her situation without it being so offensive.
Remember when Rob said he was allergic to vaginas and got slaughtered? He wasn’t thinking very well about how no one was going to understand such an old joke (allergies make you swell….), but he was not being offensive to anyone. He was just being silly. Kristen seems to think too much of and about herself. Comments such as “no one cares as much as I do!” irk me, but this one really took it to another lever.
To take the good with the bad implies that celebrities are in our normal, everyday situations. Many celebrities are not.
There are new pictures of Kristen leaving Australia - Innocent bystanders were pushed out of the way by the paps, police and security were called. Kristen looks scared shitless. No wonder she said what she said about the paps!
As for the rape comment Kristen made it was how she feels and I don't think she meant to disrespect anyone.
Also for those of you who may not be aware... she did play a character in a movie titled Speak where she was a rape victim. She has researched and talked to rape victims - so she isn't clueless in that regard.
OT - I think her ex Michael Angarano was in that movie.
Oh, and Steph! I know you are not attacking me at all! I wouldn't even bother responding did I not respect your opinions 100% , even if they are not always mine. You seem to always be an objective and centered person from what I've read, and your comments have been nothing but respectful to me and others.
@Angie: "Fighting" = simplistic word to describe the disagreements to other's POV or disparaging comments, and sometimes personal attacks (not often and well known who makes them) resulting in long argumentive thread. Not here, not tonight. Which reminds me, I have to check out the other threads I missed today.
I do think her comment was taken out of context, but researching rape does not make on an expert of give someone the right to spout about it. I do think her comment was made in ignorance and was not meant to be taken in the context that people filed it under.
Thank you. I know I am a little abrasive (to put mildly) I just have a very no BS attitude. I try to be objective, but I will let people know when I have a bias. I'm very blunt and stubborn so I dont see myself changing my ways.
If I ever offend you I apologize ahead of time. I like explaining myself. I feel like we all miss so much by not being able to read body language and our texts are taken out of context.
I agree she's definitely no expert by researching. It was my point that she isn't insensitive to the topic.
I think as well as it was taken out of context, as the vagina comment was from Rob. Then there were bloggers across the world debating his sexuality and that he was a racist all from one interview.
She may have used the word "rape" prematurely however I do think that she feels assaulted by papz. Cameron Diaz, has also used that word to describe her ongoing issues with papz.
Also someone made a comment about Leonardo and Johnny Depp not dealing with this type of insanity.
When they first hit it big they did deal with this type of stuff. I think once you've evolved as an actor overtime you get a bit of a reprieve from the insanity, unless of course your wife beats your ass and your car with a golf club.
robsjizzlover, I agree with it that it is a witch hunt. Maybe this is one of the major reasons why Rob and Kristen have never admitted anything because they know the hate, criticism, and frankly jealously would double towards Kristen if they did. And this is regardless of any lame comments Kristen may make to the press.
This is a rob site, and why do we have to like who he is with (???). We love him and care about him. I am hardcore but can also be patient and understanding.
ref Elle UK interview : KS showed the journalist a picture on her Ipod. Check the interview on other site pls.
jmm - I agree with that.......People would hate Kristen even more if they outed their relationship. Some people that is.
I posted the other day that I'd read on Oprah's show -they discussed what she was going to talk about and ask and THE question was raised and O said they could respond however they wanted on camera but that needed to tell her the facts back stage..........and their agent or publicists or someone said they ARE dating (like we didn't know) but then they just are letting our imaginations go wild to keep Rob more "available" to fans I guess and keep people from hating on KStew.
Whatever ------it's just sad that our lives have to be so focused on their relationship.........we need to just get a life!!!! IMHO
As someone who has suffered from the crime of rape, I did not take offense at all to Kristen's use of the word, because I knew what she meant.
The definition of the word 'rape' is to have something taken, stolen from you against your will. And it doesn't necessarily have to be something of a sexual nature.
Bernie Madoff raped the people whose life savings he took, stole from them...against their will.
And what has been taken, stolen from Kristen Stewart? Not much. Just her privacy, her freedom and her anynonimity. Precious, precious things that most human beings don't give a thought to because theirs are not threatened in any way.
You might say, well, she signed up for this when she went into acting. No actor goes into the business hoping to remain in obscurity. But no one signs up for what has happened to their lives either. NO ONE! When every word, every gesture, every glance, every everything about them is analyzed, scrutinized, disected, torn to pieces and most of all...JUDGED by a populace who haven't got the first goddamn clue as to what it is their even talking about AND by an out of control media (the rags, the papps, even the legitimate press) who are indeed raping (stealing pieces of their lives from them) them for the single purpose of making a blessed buck from the populace who sits in judgement of them.
They owe us nothing of their lives. NOTHING! Except a performance in a film that we have paid our money to see.
I'd love to see two things...
1) I would love to see people say the things they say while HIDING behind their computer screens, to their faces. Not just the fans, but those in the media too. The editors of the rags. The Laineys, the Perez Hiltons. If Robert Pattinson and Kristen Stewart walked in the room all of these fucking hypocrites would fall all over them. Dazzled by their stardom.
And 2) I love to see some of you walk around in their shoes for just six months. Then come back here and tell us of your experience.
Wouldn’t this be a much better world if we all took the time to fully explain ourselves? I know, this means of communication leave too much out and so very often people’s feelings get hurt over a misunderstanding. If you ever do hurt my feelings, I’ll be sure to let you know :)
I’m very stubborn as well, I also love to over analyze everything Rob related, just like I’m guessing you and most people here (why else would we be here if not?!). And yeah, this includes Kristen. I think that another reason why I’m interested in Kristen is because I’m torn between the fact that I think that so many things about her are so cool and artistic, and then there is this narcissism she has that really annoy the f*ck out of me. LOL
Either way, I love reading your posts and debates. You are entertaining, controversial and respectful… the perfect combination of my kind of fun!
@SluttyPatz
Oh, the infamous ‘I’m allergic to vaginas’ comment…. I was just talking about it on my last post, did you read? Yeah, they are all abused in a way by the media, and in Rob’s case, seriously misunderstood! Ha ha ha, that was so funny. There are still so many people debating over this out there...
yes, this is a rob site and we do not have to love who he is with BUT do we need to debate it to death either? they have all but said yes, we are together. listen to what they say--they are cryptic but they answer the question if you don't have blinders on--he loves her--we love him--just respect this and move on--
now let's see the next absolutely stunning pic of durty Robkowski--please--goz,Kate and Kat--you guys have an awesome blog!!
i haven't commented all night but had to agree with you on that.
someone mentioned kristen & taylor leaving australia, i guess some crazy shit went down and fists were thrown just trying to get that one "PIC". kristen looks pretty frazzled but no pics of taylor.
Summit does not want them public with this relationship. Why? Because they know they've got an EXTREME fanbase on their hands. Half of whom want to fuck him and put a knife in her heart and the other half who want them to be the real life Edward and Bella.
And Summit's fear is that if they go public and then break up badly (a Sandra Bullock/Jesse James kind of badly; she's a slut who broke his heart OR he's a cheating son of a bitch who broke hers) BEFORE they can finish selling this franchise to their EXTREME fanbase, that it will kill part of the fantasy and could COULD hurt ticket sales.
And Summit doesn't want to lose one ticket sale. In fact, with each film...they want MORE!!!
If anyone wants to know why Pattinson and Stewart cannot go public with their love affair...look all over this internet. Listen WHITE NOISE of it. The answer is there.
I've read those rumors before, I guess we all have. If they are indeed true, it makes my heart ache. I think I would rather deal with the paps any day than with a studio telling me how I should handle my personal relationships. If it’s their decision to keep it quiet, that’s their choice, and we’ll all have to accept it. But if they are being forced into secrecy… how sad.
Oh, and someone posted that fans would hate K even more if they just came out and admitted to being a couple. I wouldn't have believed it of any other celebrities, but yeah, I guess this fandom is... particular.
Wow!!! This is a long thread... I'll have to work my way through it, but I wanted to share the newest merchandising ploy: The Cullen Credit Cards... I wonder what the interest rate will be 30%?
Nik: It was just last night we were chatting about all this over-exposed promotional crap from Summit. I think this has hit a new low, low for them, especially in light of the global recession. this is really disgusting to me.
@Everyone, how come when other ppl say summit has involvement they get criticized, but when nikola says it, it is gospel of paul (not attacking nikola--love ya girl) just an observation. There are some heavy biases on this website and I am just as guilty.
@nik - Once again I don't feel the need to leave a long rant of a comment because you have voiced everything I would have said. Rob and Kristen owe us, as well as the media, absolutely nothing. No answers, no avoidance, no flat out denials or confirmations. It's none of our business.
Also I know people have said they wish they would either just give an answer, or stop talking about it altogether. Personally, I don't think they ever talk about "it" (any romantic relationship they may or may not have). What they do talk about is the relationship they have as friends or co-stars and everyone just assumes they're talking about a romantic relationship, or blows it out of context so it seems as though they mean something romantic. example: why would it be weird for Kristen to have a picture of her and Rob on her iPod, even if they were just friends? People automatically assume it's romantic when really there is no proof. And there won't be proof, unless they decide to show us proof.
Okay I guess my comment did become a lengthy rant but I just wanted to touch on that complaint that people seem to be having.
Thank you guys for all of your supportive comments. They mean the world to me because sometimes I feel like I say too much.
And LeeC... Sweetie. Anyone who is reading this. This is not a rumour. Summit wants this quiet. I cannot tell you how I know this. But it is the truth. Please believe me. I have nothing to gain by putting my head on the chopping block for others to come back at me about this.
Could Rob and Kristen tell Summit to go fuck themselves? Sure they could. They're huge stars now and indelible in these roles and without them, Summit has no Breaking Dawn and there goes billions of dollars out the window.
And if it weren't for this horrible, nasty, jealous, judgemental fandom, maybe they would go public. But they read this internet. They know.
And one other thing that isn't discussed very much and that's fan mail. They have both been threatened in fan mail and a part of them (especially Kristen as most of the vitriol is directed at her) are quite scared of this fanbase.
And who could blame them? Think of some of the horrible things that have been written about them by the fans. If that were you, how would you be feeling? Safe. Secure. Enough to share the details of your love affair with them?
If I were them, I wouldn't give this fanbase a goddamn thing. Except a performance that I'm gonna charge 'em money for.
But that's me.
I can't believe how much of themselves they do give.
They owe us nothing. And with some of the horrific public behavior displayed, we deserve nothing.
Just read a bit of comments here. But I have to respond to the idea of a "rumor" about Summit putting restrictions on the personal lives of their contracted workers or actors. Lots of corporations have contract regulations that strive to prevent romantic relationships between employees.. in all industries.
Nikola really hits it when she says that Summit won't do/ or have anyone else do/ anything to adversely affect their profits. That isn't illegal, nor unusual; but that doesn't make it good either. We don't have to like it, but it's not our choice nor our contract. This isn't a bias, it's a fact: companies make contracts.
I don't know if Robert of Kristen have contract requirements that prevent them from disclosing specifics on their personal lives, but I wouldn't doubt it.
Hell, if I were writing those contracts (and that is something I have done in this business) I'd add that clause. This is business, we don't have to like or agree with it, but we do have to accept the facts.
Money is money... that's their bottom line.
I added earlier that they are now merchandising a Cullen Credit Card... I don't think they're doing this for free, do you?
WTF Cullen Credit Card OMG that is just crazy I love the Twilight Saga but that is insane.....but i would get one of ROB lol...because he's the only one i want in my pocket :D
When it's all said and done we'll find out that they really have been only friends. I think this constant "we are, we aren't" is a game they're playing. And it's working because look how everyone talks about it.
If people do accept what I've had to say about this, it might be because I was trying to point out how most on the internet got it wrong. The predominant theory being that Summit cooked this 'false' romance up and then had them deny it in order drum up interest and then maybe...sell more movie tickets? I pointed out the absurdity of such a ridiculous premise (one more example of how most of what is expressed on the internet is uninformed doo doo).
And some accepted -not my theory- but I said was indeed, a fact. And if someone wishes to believe that someone is being truthful with them, that is their right. And if they want to think someone is full of shit, that too is their right.
At the end of the day, it all comes down to a person's crediblity. Either you have it or you don't. And you cannot make people respect you or force them into finding you credible.
I always seem to agree with your comments. It sort of wasnt directed at you, but the rest of the pople on this site. I just find it funny how people take your advise even if someone else was telling the same story. It's not a criticism for you because I believe in what you write and how you present it. I guess maybe its how you say it? I dunno, it was just something i noticed lol
Ok just wanted to let you know that im following you now...and since i read in one of the other thread that you were a little paranoid...im letting you know so that you don't feel paranoid :D
i just really like what you have to say and how you express yourself :D
Oh honey. I was just joking. I mean, I am a bit on the paranoid side, but I knew what followers on a blog were. I just don't know what I'm suppose to do with my followers. I mean, I feel like I need to have you over for Sunday dinner or something to thank you for following me. Although, I must warn you...I have absolutely no idea where I'm going. I'm a too stupid to use one of those GPS fuckers.
I feel like Rob when he said that when he heard that fans had been waiting for hours to see him, that just giving them an autograph didn't feel like enough. He thought that maybe he should get up and do a little dance for them. I remember when he said that and I laughed so hard. Only Rob.
But now I know what he means.
I really don't know how it works.
I really need someone to explain it to me.
And if you want me to dance, I do a real wicked 'twist'.
I have to agree wholeheartedly with Nik on this: "rape" was not too strong a word in this case. I know the term is brutal and stirs strong emotions in all women, as 1/3 of us are victims of at least one sexual assault sometime in our lives. But I don't imagine Kristen used the term lightly.
"Rape" isn't just a sexual aggression, it's an exertion of brute power and physical dominance, and an act of theft. And that's exactly what's going on here.
Being in this crazed spotlight isn't just having pappz stalk her or flashes always popping off in her eyes. It's having strangers aggressively crowd and shove her, while they yell things like "Are you fucking Rob" It's having people show up on her doorstep, completely violating her privacy. It's receiving death threats in the mail, on web sites, etc. It's people believing they have the right to publicly judge her and flay her for actions they have no personal knowledge of whatsoever (she's a cheater, a slut, a dyke, etc.)
Let's get real about this.... because this is what's happening. Maybe it will give everyone a few more things to think about when they criticize her defensive reaction to the tornadoe she's found herself in.
hi seems everyone has gone to bed,so just a quicky,i was on a next thread all the time reading comments this site loves rob,and they were writing about kristen so i went to pop sugar to see kstew leaving austrila well the pappz had a field day it was nerve recking nothing and i mean nothing LA pappz is joke kristen look so scared maybe 4 cops and two body guards,you have to see this,if i was kristen i was heading straight back home sad so sad
i love reading your post. Your vivid clarity in what you write makes coming to robsessed site a double fun thing.
As much as i would love to know every details about rob and his love life, i totally agree with you that he should disappear for a while and come back later after all of this twilight-craziness has died down.
To the ones that thought the word rape was too much to use for her situation, go please watch the photos of her leaving Australia, them lets talck about it with no pink glasses on. Goodmorning
Should have known that any post mentioning Kristen would attract 170+ comments...
@ dina I've just seen footage of K at the airport. That is no way to live. I really feel for them both, but her in particular. She's 20 years old, for heaven's sake! She has never invited that kind of hysteria into her life, and now seems stuck with it, for the forseeable future anyway. Yes, some actors go into it looking for that kind of "fame", but she has never seemed to be one of them.
ITA with you lallieb, on her need for a mentor. She is clearly uncomfortable with the level of attention which has come her way, and her awkwardness in interviews is often, I believe, misconstrued and taken as arrogance.
I did not find her reference to rape offensive. The paparazzi behave in a rapacious manner, so I understand what she meant by that.
(oops - hit publish instead of preview by mistake!)
The thing is, they will both be slated whatever they do. It's their business, and no-one else's. I don't believe that the situation would be improved by them confirming their relationship, in fact it would probably exacerbate it. If they were openly together, the pap rats would be desperately looking for signs of strain, or infidelity etc., because, sadly,that's what sells.
@ dina i saw that pics last night, at 2.20 am here aprox (yes, i'm crazy...)
horrible, she was about to cry.
I've said this before and i'll say it again and again: R&K, please, for your own sake, leave Twilight Saga and the spotlight. Go back to indie...(well, the aslt one is just my desire)
I've spent a long time reading this and I think it's fantastic that criticism here is given as a POV rather than an attack. That's why I've pretty much given up on other Rob sites these days. Anyway with these posts - who has time to go elsewhere.
@Nik You have a genious for condensing everything into perfect sense and you've summed it up beautifully as usual, including the definition of rape which no one covered, either in posts or magazines etc. I've also noticed that you dangle the carrot too - yes you do! You often say little things that show that you know things like "if only you knew", or "with that, I've said too much" etc. I usually read your stuff a day after you've written it so it makes me wonder .... because you have gone by then. No criticism intended, just interest, I believe what you say in a way that I wouldn't from other sources.
@steph I see your point, but I can't blame her for getting grumpy and shooting her mouth off - she's more mature than I could ever been at her age. I had insecurities about my myself and if the world had been picking me to pieces then I'd have been a complete mess. I don't evny her the stress of being his GF as there are so many out there willing it to fail. If she lets things get to her it will put a strain on the relationship.
@spunky If they had a normal relationship then they could reveal all proudly but their relationship is in the centre of a hurricane.
R&K are famous actors and we've all grown having opinions and expectations of how stars should conduct themselves. R&K broke the rules and not everyone likes that. Any idiot can follow rules, but it takes someone of intelligence to break them - to quote a line. Good luck to them. They don't owe us pics of them holding hands and the papps don't deserve the pics having made their lives hell. We have learned to expect that they owe us something, but like Nik says who are we to demand anything of them.
Kristen does need a good mentor. She is beginning to lash out. Best for her to always say: "no comment" to everything.
I agree that Kristen needs someone to support and mentor her. And LovesRob, it's sad that you think Rob and Kristen are playing games. They seem like totally authentic people to me, and Kristen especially doesn't seem to enjoy the spotlight.
i think K is i still young and very fragile. one moment she is fliping the papz and mocking them.then the next day she looks like she is gonna cry. she needs a very stong support system or she wont be able to handle fame.
i'm so thankful that rob has a strong support system. from family,friends to agent and manager nick :)
Re Kristen and Elle: There are two other important entities involved in a magazine interview. One is the interviewer/writer and the other is the magazine/publisher itself. Both of them edit the material for their own purposes and separate us from the actual event of the interview. We don't really know what was said, how it was said, in what context. We receive edited information. We're being manipulated to some extent, for the purposes of selling magazines. Inflammatory stuff sells. The only answer, like Rob said after the Details fiasco is "don't do interviews".
@Nikola Girl, you hit the nail on the head about Summit. There are two more movies in the Twilight Saga. What if Rob and Kristen admit that they are dating and then low and behold they break up? There goes the ticket sales and all Summit wants is the big bucks. Imagine, the two top stars of their movie broken up off screen, it will kill the sales. Of course not for everyone but definitely, it will affect the sales.
@Spunk. Rob and Kristen are not having a normal relationship, they are two celebrities who are having a relationship in public. There is a different and it has nothing to do with being ashamed of being with each other, it's called privacy. I'm a Chris Martin and Gwyneth fan as well and believe me, they are just as bad. Yes, we know they are married and have two children but they are never seen together and never go anywhere together (awards etc etc) of course they have a normal, happy marriage but they want their privacy most of all.
Rob and Kristen are never going to come out and say Yes, we are a couple but I also think, they are not hiding it either. It's just up to the public to decide for themselves. They held hands in November (I know some people don't think of that as holding hands), she spend NYE with him in england, she went to Rob for his birthday. When are the public going to put two and two together??? It's not Rob and Kristen who are hiding, I think it's the public who don't want to admit it.
Not even bothering to read certain people’s commentaries on the lives of those they personally know nothing about, but I will say this, walk one day in either of their shoes. One freaking day, and enlighten me as to how you would live your life differently. Or, better yet, when you become famous, do the exact opposite of Rob and Kristen and make sure you don’t protect your privacy, make sure that every living person knows everything about you, make sure you are on the cover of every gossip mag possible, make sure you whore yourself out to gossip websites and the blogs and to any and every one who will listen to your endless prattle.
JFC, for women who are supposedly “fans” of Rob’s, you are just disgusting in your hatred for a woman in his life, regardless if it is as a close friend or as a girlfriend. I find it interesting that the most hate comes from girls close to his age. Do you really think you have a chance with him?
As a woman, I don’t find many things sadder than women ripping another woman apart. Get over yourselves. There are blogs out there where you can go and be as nasty as you want to be regarding Kristen Stewart, this blog is called ROBsessed.
And by the way, Angie-K has NEVER attacked anyone on this blog. NEVER. She is one the sweetest, loveliest women I know. Read her comments before you make stupid accusations.
I wish GwenCooper wasn’t dealing with RL right now, because she does this best. But this is for some of you, you know who you are.
Jealousy 1. jealous resentment against a rival, a person enjoying success or advantage, etc., or against another's success or advantage itself. 2. mental uneasiness from suspicion or fear of rivalry, unfaithfulness, etc., as in love or aims. 4. a jealous feeling, disposition, state, or mood.
@Cullenlover - ITA with you - I don't envy R/K in the slightest. I enjoy their work as artists but would NEVER want to walk a day in their shoes.
People are so passionate on THIS blog and spend relentless hours posting/defending their comments.
IMAGINE if it were millions of websites/blogs you would have to defend your comments on. Their interviews are so disected and edited that its crazy. If you read a transcript of an interview and then hear the audio sometimes lots of things are lost in translation.
That is why I don't envy them in the slightest. No matter what they say/do its a lose/lose someone always ends up pissed. They can't please everyone.
I just saw the photos taken of Kristen leaving Sydney. I am so disgusted by how she was treated there I hope that she stands up against the push for more Twilight promotion. I know she has to do a certain amount, but this is now an unhealthy situation for her to be in.
I'm so disturbed by this constant rush to see photos and hear words dropped that I'm pulling back myself. I don't want to be a part of this horrible pappz audience. No one deserves this kind of treatment. It is a form of rape as discussed here in this thread. Both she and Robert are virtual prisoners,,, held hostage by this grotesque fandom... today, I'm ashamed to be on that group.
@Cerulean: your reminder about editors being between even the interviewer and the subject is a good one. They do have the final 'cut.' I too wish some interviews could be avoided but its part of the agreed PR...
This thread may be dead, but I wanted to put in my cents. :D. At the risk of boring some of you, because I've said it so much before: Rob, Kristen, or anyone else owe us nothing other than the performances they are paid for, that we pay to see. I won't go into extreme analogies again(was taken to task the last time)but the bottom line is still valid: Do not rationalize that because a person chooses acting as a profession (or actng chooses him; he needs to create via acting) that he chooses fame, pappz, adoration, noise, loss of private life. Do not rationalize that earning a lot of money means one has lost the rght to complain or be upset about things in life. Earning a big paycheck does not mean one surrenders his/her privacy, personal secrets, life. Choosing acting as a career is not a 'p' wth the 'q' being seekng fame and loss of privacy.
As for talkng about Kristen on this site: On the one hand, I really like her and feel Rob and Kristen are good for each other in so many ways (and no, I do not know them personally; i can only use my sense and senses and extrapolate) and I also feel, as does CullenLover, taht sicne this is a rob site, and Kristen is at the very least a very good close friend of ROb, that at the very least people ought not be putting her down here or insulting here. (I have my ideas about why some of you do, but I won't get into it here again.) I have thought about this and wondered if Rob were with someone that disgusted me would I have this same attitude? And I answer, yes. I might just say so and so is not my cup of tea, but would be happy for ROb if he is happy and healthy and safe. And I hope that no matter how we are fascnated with ROb, that we all want that for himself, that he be hapy, healthy and safe.
And by the way-- I know what rape is, and I am not offended by her use of the word, don't thnk she used it lightly (I don't thnk she uses any words lightly) and I understand her use of it.
woah, that was a bit of a night! Only just dropped by.... Anything or Anyone that out Beautiful Rob loves is worth protecting, and that includes Kristen.
woah, that was a bit of a night! Only just dropped by.... Anything or Anyone that our Beautiful Rob loves is worth protecting, and that includes Kristen.
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193 comments:
Yay! 1st at last :DDD
Oh and you're correct there Taylor - there is NO competition between you and Rob.
Feeling a little lonely here...
OK guys, where are you hiding?
Come out come out wherever you are :D
Hi Fifty! damn! You were fast! LOL!
NO COMPETITION WHATSOEVER!!
TEAM ROB ALL THE WAY!!!
Damn!!!
Phone call... I could have got first comment again :)
LOL I haven't even watched the vid yet
There is no competition sweet boy...but glad you get along so well...
@angie @dessert @rpg
Evening ladies! Dessert - I was the same, jumped in before I even saw the video, childish - but fun!
I can't watch the video at work, but I know the NB's are correct in what they are saying!
*Waving* to 50, Angie, Desserts & RPG
@50 girl you are really fast OMG
waves NBs from here LOL
boy, she's good...I'd almost believe that they are not together if only I believed she were totally insane.
Nice to see Kris looking so gorgeous. Her hair is growing back... Taylor is such a nice kid! However, I miss Rob...
Fifty,
Yeah I agree childish but it IS fun and I can't resist!
Sorry Taylor, what competition??? There is none...
FILTMSM
NBU!
LOL! we are so competitive! but it is fun!
Hi CL - video is cute. has K saying that she used to believe when tabloids said co-stars were dating, but now since they are writing about her & Rob she doesn't believe them anymore & T is saying the whole cast gets along really well, good friends...
Hi to all you wonderful, fun women who are as crazy and happy as I am that Rob (& this site) exists in our world.
friends with the best benefits in the fucking world!!! **wink**
@dessert yeah no competition he has no chance to win because this is Rob noone can beat him =))
@Fifty angie Dess I knew it, it was a set up you keep me talking to be the first to post. I should have know better.
darn it dina! You figured us out!!
bwahahaha!! um, I mean oops! LOL!
There is definatly no competion, Rob would always win, glad they are good friends though.
RL sucks gearing up for a four day hospital stay and my lap top just crashed yesterday, I dont know what I am going to do with myself not being able to check ROBsessed everyday.
acullengirl - hope everything is ok, nothing too serious. Get the Us/People Eclipse magazines & get some pics printed & take them with you!!
acullengirl..
Ohh, sorry to hear that, hope everything ok...bring twilight books, mags, Water For Elephants...make the time go by faster and think of Rob...
@acullengirl sorry to hear that I hope everything will be ok
@acullengirl: good luck with the boredom of a hospital bed!
Download the soundtracks if you're allowed electrical equipment, for when you're fed up with listening to the nurses.
Thanks Rpatz. I have to have a hysterectomy so hopefully everything will go good. I just finished water for elephants on my trip over the weekend and loved the book, I cant wait for the movie, I have both twilight and New moon on my Ipod so I plan on watching those while I am there.
@lemonless hon I just asked you if you could add me from twitter but it was on the other thread
@acullengirl: what kind of stuff do you like to read? Maybe some of us on here have some recommendations. Obviously not too funny: we don't want to be responsible for burst stitches.
LOL! loisada - we posted at the same time...
@ dina
LOL! I got my assistants to distract you while I sneaked in all ninja-ish!
@acullengirl
Wishing you a speedy recovery. Take some RobPorn in to cheer you up, the nurses will love you for it :))
@acul get well soon. Get back to Eclipse to be in the mood for the 30th.
Thanks everyone for the well wishes, My sister hooked me up with a butt load of books so I should be good, but I will miss perving on ROBsessed. Hopefully when I get home the laptop will be back up and running.
maybe it's because we love rob,but it have who likes taylor more than rob okay ladies,now let me break down thw nice things about taylor 1 nice teeth,2abs,3 back flip ,4ketches grapes in mouth,5 love miley cyrus and that;s it don't even reaD A book may be comic!lolrob is so much more in every way and that why is 1
acullengirl--I hope everything goes well for you, including a speedy recovery.
i can't understand everything they say...till i wait for the subtitles: something remarkable??
BTW, Down Under means Australia?
@acullengirl. Take care and have a good and fast recovery... Try reading Kill your friends! It's totally immoral and very funny...
@acullengirl
I hope everything goes well and that you're back soon :D
@BellaMarie247
i know you mentioned it like @ the beginning of the thread but ITA with you...Kristen almost made me believe her but then again actions speak more than words and those looks they give each other are to die for
ok, i've just found the video with subtitles :D
hey
@est a quote from sex and the city I watched yesterday.
Samantha drooling over some buffed up guys from Australia.
"Those men from down under (looking at her ve@ina) and down under nothing."
sissidelyon & loisada
Thank you both so much for your help! I really appreciate it!
Would you both please be so kind and delete your comments with the corrections? I have already saved them and passed them on to the author.
Thanks again!!
(((hugs)))
Angie... the main difference btwn Siss and I is that I used the familiar "you" form (tu), and she used the more formal one (vous).
(If I was telling somebody to lay back and let me love them, I hope I'd be comfortable enough to call them "tu" ! It's a stylistic difference and both are correct. Mine would start with this sentence, which I didn't originally translate:
"Non, mon amour. Ne touche pas. ")
@loisiada I know its out of topic but can I be one of those campers please
loisada - thanks again!
Another reason this blog is my Happy Place! Lovely & wonderful people helping each other... Makes my heart smile!
((hugs))
What is she doing? She lets Elle UK see a picture on her Ipod (by the way, does anybody else keep pictures on their Ipod? I never even thought of doing that) which they imply is her & Rob looking like a couple, & now she implies that they aren't. Just make up your mind already, either don't say anything, or say one thing. Don't go back & forth between yes & no because it's really annoying.
I'm getting a little tired of this "oh yes we are", "oh no we're not" stuff. Personally I think they are.
All these denials are wearing a little thin, don't you ladies agree?
I don't think that Kristen is saying that they are not together but just don't believe the press when it comes to the stories that are written about them. Example: they are engaged, she is pregnant, they are moving in together, have broken up etc etc. There is so much bull out there, you just can't believe everything you read.
They are together but half the stuff you hear is not true, regarding their relationship.
hi cullenpattz,everything will be okay,i will surely say a pray for you tonight,and ladies have you ever notice kristen and never just say one thing she always have to say more and marana,people who go back and forth yes it is annoying,nd if is rob and kristen you are speaking about she try to make people not believe,but not rob he just not say any thing,and people say he is more in love with her no i do not think so she hide her feeling better sometimes,and i say sometimes because other than that time for RM promition that he 3days in NY,rob never came back to the US until after the reshoot on eclipse and another thing we no rob a little kristen knows rob up close and personal,lol!!!!!!!!!!
She didn't mean her and Rob aren't together she meant not to believe everything you read, such as "she's pregnant, they broke up" She wants to knock the pack off the scent. But without lying. Very clever Kristen. Love her.
@ shane04
EXACTLY!
@ dina thanks ajjajajajaajj
i had a language problem and i was very worried cuz i don't know why i thought that "under down" meant something like "be down" or "going under" and i thought rob was sad and i said "what??? they're saying that? really?"
i know what i'm saying is a stupid thing but you know my language problems ;)
She means not to believe EVERYTHING not ANYTHING.
I don't understand this girl. She doesn't want to talk about relationships and yet shows a reporter pics from an ipod( who keeps pics on an ipod btw?..and now people know there are incriminating photos.. good job Kristen. that was some genius move right there) and then she says things like how we shouldn't believe what is being written in tabloids.
If she doesnt want people commenting on her life then stop giving people something to comment on. No one said she had to disclose she was dating Rob or not. I just think its a little hypocritical of her to say she values privacy and then does things to warrant attention. I never liked her and that is no secret, but I did respect her sticking to her guns and not commenting on it. I just would rather her not say anything at all. I hate the ambiguity.
@cullengirl >Good Luck & best wishes for a speedy recovery. just think positive and look ahead to seeing new Rob delights when Eclipse comes out. & Remember Me on DVD.
I'm waiting for my copy of WFE from Amazon, and get such a rush of adreneline when I think of seeing him in new situations...hearing him say new words...isn't that nuts?
I've worn out my copies of Twilight and NM, watched DVDs Little Ashes and How to Be..and need MORE MORE MORE! What can I say?
@ROBessed89..those looks melt me. There's alot of chemistry between him and her. Let's face it, we would all look at him that way if we could, but would he look back at us that way? In my dreams he would...yes, dreams are a good thing.
I see his face everywhere I go, & It's not just in my mind...it's on TV, in the supermarket, the dr's office, bus stops...and while I know he can't be overexposed to ME, I imagine it can become a problem for him at some point. As the conversation on another thread points out, overexposure is problematic.
Kstew 411 are going to stop tweeting on 1st of July. I am so sad. That was one cool side. The ladies who run it are awesome too.
@Grace @Shane--I totally agree with you both. She's politely asking people to not believe the covers of Star, Life & Style, and all the horrendous websites like Perez, etc.
Oh and I keep photos, videos, movies and tons of crap on my iPod. Just sayin.
@Dina--Add kstewartnews...they are awesome, too.
@acullengirl - have a very speedy recovery and hope you are back to Robsessed very soon.
@caroleUK - it's wearing but they have to face that question all the time. I don't think it's an outright denial though.
@shane04 - ITA. The first time I saw this clip I thought K was denying the relationship but I watched it again and I agree, I think it's about all the nonsense about their relationship that she's saying not to believe. The Sun and the OK! always seem to know the gifts and surprises they are planning for eachother - all the rubbish. It would be odd if she was denying the relationship altogether because I've never seen a serious denial from either of them on video in the last year. She does seem at the end of her tether these days. I hope she's OK, it's hard to tell because, like Bella, she is difficult to read.
For the sake of their sanity, I can't wait for the whole Twilight Saga to end so they can just enjoy their youth and do other creative things that please them. We'll always have the films and the clips and photos.
@ dina i don't follow them but, why are they going to stop?? just curious ;)
Marna and Steph, she didn't show anyone anything, the writer said that Kristen asked her to pass her the ipod from the glove compartment and she happened to see a picture of Rob and Krist & her cat. Kristen then grabbed the ipod and threw it back into the glove compartment and turned up the volume on the radio so she wouldn't have to talk to the woman.
@acullengirl, I wish you a speedy recovery. Take care!
It was interesting that on one of the TV shows they said afterwards that they were not allowed to ask any personal questions at all, and if they had attempted to they would have pulled the plug on all interviews that day (the other panelists asked the girl who did the interview why she didn't ask Kristen about Rob).
I went to the Q&A session (beamed to a local cinema) and the other thing that was not discussed on that night (at all) or on any interview I've seen was Breaking Dawn.
@acullengirl--Pardon my poor manners. I wish you well with your surgery and a very speedy recovery and back to the blog and ROBsessing as soon as possible.
@ Steph please i just want to tell you something but please don't get me worng, don't misinterpretme.
If i'm not wrong, i think you're not a Kris fan (but you always show respect to her) but i've noticed that, the few times you're here you always (or almost) talk about kris, why??? don't get me wrong please but it just seems you're a little bit obsessed with kris. I'm not saying what you have to say or not, of course!!! say what you want, but i've seen you having long conversations with people here and i just don't understand why you always comment something about her, analyzing everything, if you don't like her.
Again, don't misinterpretme, this is not an attack, just a critic, cuz i like reading you cuz you express yourself very eloquently
@est real life got in the middle I guess.
@ang thank you for the info.
@est real life got in the middle I guess.
@ang thank you for the info.
@Est
I analyze a lot because its in my nature. It is also my major in college. I try to find ways to like her and try to find the good with the bad. I think I only comment on Kris because it is the only thing that riles me up. I like debating and the only thing we all seem to debate on is them..or if Rob does something completely outlandish. I stayed off the website for awhile preferring not to comment. I prefer not to sugar coat things even for Rob and a lot of people can't handle that on this sight. I mostly comment when someone else is in line with my beliefs or else I don;t say anything at all.
Don't worry I know you didn't mean any harm. It's not so much that I'm obsessed with her. It's more like I'm obsessed with analyzing anything that has to do with Rob.
@ dina aaaaa ok, thanks. it's just that i thought it was the best and the most follower to Kris, but don't know cuz i don't follow them
@ Steph thank you so much for answering me so kindly, i'm really thankful.
yes, i've notice you haven't been here for a while. I understand you perfectly and i think your reasons are very good. I like to debate too (as you can see) but maybe it's not very good going over it again and again, what do you think?
Marna & Steph: it's all a matter of perspective, don't you think? I don't see any waffling in what Kristen says, which still boils down to: don't believe the wild stories about us in the tabloids, but the real story of our personal tie is our business and I won't expound upon it.
That doesn't mean she doesn't have to answer questions about Rob and their rapport, because as long as she's being interviewed about anything related to Twi, questions about how she gets on with her costar will always come up. And she always answers them as graciously as possible, trying to keep things professional...... as they should be.
As Rob said, they "cryptically avoid the question..." Which means playfully dancing around it, without answering, or denying, or being impolite. I don't see that as hypocritical. Ambiguous? Yes, by choice!
I personally find it very touching that Kristen keeps photos of people and pets who are important to her on her phone, just like any other love-struck girl! It would be sad to think that even that little pleasure was denied her, because prying eyes might see them and blab, which is exactly what happened. She was brave enough to run that risk.... and lost. Let's hope things like this don't make them shut down completely.... for their sakes, not ours!
Once again, neither has admitted or denied anything...
She only meant not to believe everything you read, it's not a denial or admission...if we believed everything in the rags, they have bought a love nest, got engaged, got pregnant, broke up...I mean, really???
Don't take everything so literally...
I'm glad she keeps saying this kind of stuff because it's no ones business anyway...she doesn't have to call attention to herself, it's there in her face everyday...
Even if you don't like her (and you certainly don't have to) at least respect the fact that she's a big part of Rob's life...I know it would hurt me if people criticized every move my friends (or lover) made.
Not read the write up or seen the pics, just saw Rob down under, YES PLEASE.
Ahhhh... RPG, if you're still around Company Loves Misery updated!!
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5577199/12/
Newbies beware: the latest by AngstGoddess is wonderfully written, genuine, bare..... and brutal! Very good but hard read about the nature of addiction and redemption. Wonderful story, if you like things that shake you up.
@ rpatt if we believed everything in the rags, that would mean we have a serious problem with our criteria to select the info sources, and i think we are mature enough to choose, aren't we? :D i hope that...
Hey Loisada,
I don't think I'm reading that one, or am I? too many to remember, but I will add to list...thanks!!!
@Est
No hard feelings. If people are kind and respectful to me regardless of their opinion then we are okay. I have said this before, but I love debating with people.
Maybe it is not necessarily healthy, but that is just how I am. I am one of those persistent people who does not stop until every question has an answer.
You always seem respectful of others and I appreciate it.
@Lou
It is perspective. I do try to look at it from all angles. My point was that if this girl values privacy so much then why even discuss it or give responses or show actions that allude to something? Do you get what I am saying?
At the end of the interview (involving her ipod) she showed the journo the pictures. She also told the journo that she wishes she could be excited about things the way normal people are instead of hiding things. I just try and understand her pathos. She could solve that issue by admitting it, but then it goes against everything she has said.
It's not that I think her and Rob are lying. I just liked it better when they didn't comment on it and didn't give a reason to comment. I respected that about them. Of course the journo was going to write that she saw Kris's pics in an article and of course the tabloids are going to talk about the same stories involving them whether they admit they are together or not. I just think that "wanting to be proud" of the people you are involved with would be a lot easier if you didnt have to hide it because you dont want people to know you are dating. There lives would be so much easier if they didn't have to hide the fact that they held hands when they walk down the street or come up with cutesy little avoidance techniques. I always saw Kristen as more of a head on type of person and not one to dance around something. Rob is a dancer lol, but Kris I always took her for someone who had a DGAF attitude (in a good way). I just think the both of them make it 10x more complicated than it needs to be.
I do respect the fact that she keeps quiet..especially for this long. I just sort of get the feeling that she is kind of eating her words right now because it is more apparent that they are an item and the both of them cant avoid answering the question forever.
To sum up- if thy dont comment at all and work hard not to be seen together than they could avoid the majority of drama
if they just fess up. both eat their own words and the tabloids wont stop with them, but at least they dont have to be paranoid with the fact that incriminating photos will leak.
Sorry for the long rant lol. I hope I got my point across.
@ yes Steph, i can see you're very persistent by your comments, like i said, but i respect it's just the way you are, i'm a little bit weird and radical sometimes so... what can i say?
ok, i think we had a bebate so we're happy cuz that's what we like right?? ;D
BTW i got worried when i saw that loooong comment, i'm happy everything is not adressed to me cuz i'd take me 1 hour to translate it ajajajajaj
@rpg
ITA!!!
AND...Doesn't there have to be a shade of equal footing for a competiton to take place? Yes, you say.That's what I thought. NO COMPETITION.. Rob all the way!!!
Steph - I call BS on your comment that you just like to debate. I think you like to stir up conflict & pounce whenever you get the opportunity like today with a kstew post.
Maybe I'm the one stirring up conflict now, but that's just how I see it.
Just want to add to Loisada's newbie warning. Angstgoddess is an incredible writer, I think that Wide Awake is the standard that all Twilight FF has to live up to, & very few do, BUT, & this is a big BUT, she's all gung ho when she starts writing a story, but then she doesn't update for months. She started Misery Loves Company with 2 updates a week, then droped to 1, & now this is the first update since February or March I think, & she has other stories that she seems to have just walked away from. You might want to wait until she's finished writing it before you read it to save yourself the aggravation.
@Est
No worries girl! I sometimes forget not everyone speaks English as a first language. I speak with a lot of local colloquialisms (slang) made worse by the fact that I am a New Yorker. If I ever confuse you in anyway just ask and I'll be happy to help you out.
I can understand Italian, but since it is not a first language I tend to get confused when people use slang so I completely understand!
@Steph is Legit,
I agree with your sentiments that we who adore Rob but may want to lend some constructive criticism for his futre, career, or outlook on all things Twilight are silenced because many here feel it is their happy place.
I find debating an issue intresting whether it be Kristen and Rob dating, their acting, the media (especially paparazzi) and anything associated with Rob. I wish both Kristen and Rob would just say "No comment" on any question involving their relationship. It is no one's business and the press would be unable to put any spin on their answer involving their relationship. The press will make up whatever they want over these two because that is what sells and many of us are at fault for buying or going on these websites to hear the smut, myself included.
So I agree with your sentiments about expressing yourself on this site, I may not always agree with you on Kristen, but I do enjoy your
commentary as well as the others on this site. I believe this is one of the best sites on Rob and all things Twilight.
@Angie
I really do like to debate. I don't actively look to start conflict, but sometimes what I say does and I am sorry I offend you. I am always honest and I hate BS myself. You can say whatever you want in terms of calling BS on my comments and motives, but do you ever read what I write? Or do you just assume that since not everyone is a fan of Kristen they are all bad people? I have been nothing but respectful to you, but this is the second time you have attacked me.
I am not on this website often because I have a job and also because I try to refrain from commenting on them. I always feel the need to defend myself to you. I just don't understand what your deal is. You accuse me of attacking and pouncing, but as soon as you se my name in a blog you pounce on me.
It's not like what I am saying is terribly insulting. I am just giving an opinion. I have said before that K as a topic riles me up. If someone brings it up (which they have) then you better believe I will comment on it because I like debating it and mulling it over. If you don't like me I honestly don't give a damn, but you can easily just not read my comments if you don't like them.
You probably arent even going to read this so why even bother.
KStew..gotta love her for guarding her privacy. Girl, you rock!
As for Robert...
FILTM!!!!!
jc,
ITA girl!!!
Love Stewie, but I love her boyfriend more....jealous? Yep!
i have never came on this thread this intrested,yes here is about rob but sometimes it could be about his intrest!and my god she is his intrest,steph what you said,is so true and we all love rob,he is young a looker and male i just hope they say somerthing soon because needs some-one to truly love him he deserves it he is to sweet to not hve love like what a partner is about
@Steph is Legit
first off i am totally for Robsten... :D and i TAWY in your comment :D just thought i said that..
@everyone
Wishing everyone a good day and beautiful dreams with the BB... :D
ok knowing me they will be on the NAUGHTY ahahaha
what can i say i love the man :D
Steph,
Please refresh my memory, when have I attacked you before? And I would hardly call this an "attack" - I just voiced my opinion.
I do read your comments, to a point, then it just gets monotonous. You don't like K, I get it.
Offended is not really the right word. I'm not offended, more along the line of irritated that the only times you do decide to comment it is rarely supportive.
You know love or hate em, they put up with a lot shit..I could never do it...I really don't know how anyone could stand someone following them and snapping their photo at every turn...it's a lot to handle at any age....
I would seriously flip out, then lose my career for sure!
what does "tawy" mean
i al=m so bad with acronyms
oh i forgot to mention
*******IFLRFP4EVER*******
ahahah it ok it means TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU lol...girl don't worry im getting the hang of them i've only been on this blog like maybe 2 weeks....................
and i LOVE IT :D
btw nice to meet you Steph
@angie
I really dont want to fight with you, but a couple months or few months not sure of the exact timeline. you and a few others pretty much berated me for my feelings on kstew. You have stated that since this site is called ROBsessed then we should love everyone Rob loves. While I do agree it is a good gesture I could not follow it. I thought that I was only here for Rob and it didnt mean I had to agree with what he did, but support it nonetheless. and you and a few others pretty much attacked me for my opinion.. I am not saying you went after me violently with fitch forks or anything, but I felt like i was being ganged up on and you were all not even willing to listen to reason.
I get that people who don't K are irritating to you and what I say is monotonous to you, but if you feel that way then why comment on me? If I apparently spout the same sh*t then wouldnt that give you the okay to just pass over my comments?
I am really trying to be civilized towards you, and I get that you dont think I am supportive. Regardless I will tell it like it is. I am not always happy with Rob's decisions but I do try and support him. I am barely on this site anymore and when I do comment it is something that grabs my attention. The whole Robsten thing happens to be an attention grabber to me. I support Rob with whomever he is with. It just doesnt mean I have to agree with him. We are both entitled to our opinions. I just wish you could see where I come from more.
I would like to get past this with you. I want you to understand where I come from with things. I get that I am tough to handle and I am also very critical by nature. I am sory that irritates you..I really am. I will try to see your perspective more as well.
@Robsessed
Nice to meet you too.I have been on this site for a year and lurking since it first opened, but even I can't keep track of the acronyms lol.
Hi Steph, not my arguement, but i know where you aer comming from.
I feel that this site is made up for bout 10 ppl n knowbobdy else matters, been reading this this site for what seems like ever, but if you dont fit in you dont matter., soz been drinking, its now half past daft in the morning, gonna wake up 2 morrow feelin shit, n wondering what i was doing here in the first place.
@FCUK
try not to comment when your drunk lol. I always stumble on this site and then regret it immediately and I'm usually sober lol.
But I agree. Perhaps I am one of these 10 ppl you are referring to, but I sometimes feel out of the loop because I have differing opinions than the majority of people.
To me, your are welcome here and I hope everyone here with with nice to you as well regardless of where your opinion stands lol
Just my thought on interpreting K's statement re. not believing the gossip rags on celeb "couples" and how she believed it until they starting writing about her and you-know-who. As I distinctly recall, way before there was ANY evidence whatsoever that she and Rob were more than just compatible co-stars and friends, the rags totally fabricated a romance between them, manipulating photos, creating ridiculous stories and scenarios to FEED the Twilight E/B frenzy and sell their rags. It worked. The Twihard girl fans gobbled it up and internet "shippers" were born.
It's slowed down, but the rags are still doing it (I picked one up at the hair salon and couldn't believe the BS I was reading, it was laughable.) Hmm, could it have anything to do with the release of Eclipse, putting them front and center again?? Of course it does.
She has to constantly be guarded responding to the questions and interest, not wanting to CHEAPEN her real life relationship for public consumption, "feeding the frenzy" and the rags, hiding any evidence of it, when it's such an important and fulfilling part of her life, and same for him. Little things have slipped out the most recent being the iPod picture, I guess. Good God, to be 20 yrs old, at the top of your game (arguably) and in love (possibly), happy and having to watch your every word and movement when all you want to do is say YES! Don't envy her or him either. Filtering isn't his strong point.
@lal
you are right. I do feel bad that she has to watch what she says and what not. I just think that they won't stop reporting on them regardless of a confirmation. Rags (and us) will sit here and interpret every word and analyze body language or come up with some sort of reasoning for why things appear to be a certain way. I just think that saying she is in a relationship will allow her more freedom. Both of them more freedom. It must suck to walk next to your bf and cant even hold his hand or look him in the eye for too long because then people will take it as a confirmation, but if they did say yes then no one would think anything of it. They would be acting just the way normal couples do. They wouldnt have to disclose anything, the same redundant stories will always be there, but at least they wouldnt have to deal with people questioning why they are holding hands or why she flew to hungary.
They dont owe us a damn thing and they are free to do as they want. I just wish that they wouldnt comment on it at all and leave us oblivious than dangle a carrot. I know they dont dangle it purposely, but the ambiguity sort of does it itself.
@StephisLegit, I have mentioned you as someone whose comments I appreciate (you missed that long thread dust-up), despite your opinion of K, which I respect. Don't get your dander up. Fights come and go, feelings get hurt, and then heal, apologies are made, we agree to disagree. I've made my peace with the NBs (I hope) and although groups get formed around what comments people want to read or not, it all comes out in the wash. We're here for the SAME damned reason. If we all agreed and posted the same comments over and over, it would be SOoo fucking boring :)) Bottom line.
Bottom line is that Rob and Kristen have never come out and admitted to being together and they don't want to. Why can't everyone just let them live their lives and not worry about what they are or aren't doing? I'm as guilty as the next person of analyzing it but truth be told they don't owe us any explanations. It is none of our business.
Thank You lallieb, I appreciate it. I will try not to take things so personally. I'm a taurus though so you have to give me a little leeway lol
If you really like Kristen, skip my post!
I've been reading everyone's comments on Kristen showing her 'personal' pictures to the journalist and the different reactions, but what freaked me out was the comment on how she compares her fame with being rapped. Huh??? Very disturbing, I feel sorry for sexually assaulted people. I think she'll get slaughtered for it. That comment made me cross the bridge between not really caring for her to really disliking her. This person needs to stop complaining about her life! Even if you took Rob out of the picture, she still has it pretty great in my book!
I'm not trying to start anything. Seriously, if you love her, ignore me. But was anyone else seriously ticked off by her ass-talking???
@LeeC
I don't like Kristen, but I do have to sort of defend her on that one.
I think her comment was taken out of context. When I first read it I was outraged. I thought to myself "good now people will finally see where I am coming from with her", but then I read it again. She compared it to seeing someone get rapped as opposed to her getting raped.
I mean maybe she should have reconsidered what she said, but I dont think it was meant to be interpreted that way.
I mean I wish every celeb would stop complaining about being stalked by paps and why I do feel they have no right to complain I get a reality check when I see how intrusive they are. I hardly watch ROb pap videos, but I mostly look at the pictures. Pictures don't seem intrusive, but the videos prove they are.
The paps use the negativity we spout to and fire it back at the celebs. I saw a fan video of Dakota Fanning and Kristen where the paps were like "what makes you tink you are good enough for rob" "fans say you are mean, what is your opinion?" they say such horrible things to her and no one hears that side of them being in her personal space.
while I do think her comment wasn't well though out. I do feel she didnt mean it in that context. It's sort of like people saying "It was like watching a a car accident, I just couldnt look away" some ppl might get ticked off by that statement because they knew someone who died/injured. A lot is taken out of context.
Believe you, me, I am no Kristen fan, but I try to be faie to her regarding certain things.
@Steph, my last comment to you was BEFORE I saw your response to mine. Hope we don't pass each other again LOL.
I absolutely agree, but have you seen Oprah, the backstage interview, read the USA interview at O's studio following the show, AND the little photo shoot of the 3of them with Rob leaning into K's face?? The "guard" came down just an eentsy bit, not staged. When they're feeling comfortable and not on the spot, they tend to reveal. They know that we know, but they aren't going to shout it out.
@Lal
I just wish they would either come out and just say it, or not comment on it at all, and by not commenting I mean I dont want pictures or interviews that allude to anything, but i realize that this is all what I WANT and what I want isnt always what is needed or wanted.
I prefer things very straight forward and in black and white..the shades of grey are killing me lol
Who's fighting? Really?
These are comments on a blog.
When you say something - you're voicing your opinion. When we say something - we're attacking.
It's all about perspective...
Proclaiming your partner is a natural and healthy aspect of any relationship. The only time I've heard of a "secret"relationship is when members of the relationship were ashamed, up to no good, or hiding something. You don't have to reveal everything. A simple "yes" or "no" and "no further comments" will do the trick.
Rob and Kristen aren't the only celebrity couple, but the mystery surrounding their relationship creates the stories.
A wise man once told me, "if a man cannot claim you as his , he doesn't really love or want you"
and any woman who refused to claim her man doesn't want him. Its perfectly natural to want to hug, kiss, hold hands, or smile when your talking about your mate ... where ever the two of you are!
Honestly, Why would anyone want to spend so much time in any relationship hiding it?
Would any of you deny that you were involved with Robert Pattinson? and would anyone want him to deny that he was with them?
Proclaiming your partner is a natural and healthy aspect of any relationship. The only time I've heard of a "secret"relationship is when members of the relationship were ashamed, up to no good, or hiding something. You don't have to reveal everything. A simple "yes" or "no" and "no further comments" will do the trick.
Rob and Kristen aren't the only celebrity couple, but the mystery surrounding their relationship creates the stories.
A wise man once told me, "if a man cannot claim you as his , he doesn't really love or want you"
and any woman who refused to claim her man doesn't want him. Its perfectly natural to want to hug, kiss, hold hands, or smile when your talking about your mate ... where ever the two of you are!
Honestly, Why would anyone want to spend so much time in any relationship hiding it?
Would any of you deny that you were involved with Robert Pattinson? and would anyone want him to deny that he was with them?
@Steph is Legit
"All you see is an actor or a celebrity lit up but a flash. It's so... The photos are so... I feel like I'm looking at someone being raped. A lot of the time I can't handle it. It's f-cked. I never expected that this would be my life."
I know celebrities are victims of the media all the time. They take a bad picture of them and say they were drunk. They say something stupid, and they take it out of context to mean something much, much worse. But Kristen's comment is really not defensible. I’m guessing she’s never actually witnessed a rape, I’m sure she’d take the paps any day, as annoying and terrible as they may be.
We all have jobs and they have their down sides. Yep, hers suck, big time. But she needs to watch her mouth. She is not THAT much of a victim. If she seriously feels this way, I would a) advice her to seek professional help, and b) advice her to pursue a different career.
I don’t hate the girl. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, I reserve hatred for people who are truly evil and have bad intentions. I believe K has none. However, if she has such a difficult time saying the right things, perhaps she should consider keeping quiet. She needs to get to that point where she can be grateful for what she has and simply take the good with the bad, as we all try to do.
@spunky
why are you never online!!
I agree with 90% of what you said,but I do respect that both of them are still trying to hold onto some semblance of privacy. It's admirable, but it seems as if the cat is out of the bag at this point?
@LeeC, I'm going with Steph on this one, so I'm not going to repeat what she said, very well. All I'll say, and I've said it before here, Kristen NEEDS someone to mentor her on how to speak and deal with the interviews and questions she gets asked. She's awkward, nervous, has troubling expressing what she wants to say, and therefore it can, and often has, come out wrong. I've read and heard enough about her, to know with certainty, that she would be totally crushed and embarrassed that her comments could be interpreted that way. She doesn't always get it right (why she needs mentoring), but she takes herself and her words VERY seriously. Before I get stick for commenting too much on Kristen on ROBsessed, I'm leaving. Unless Steph says something else...
They're not denying nor confirming. They are cryptically avoiding the question.
@LeeC
I completely agree with what has been said. While I know that stage acting and Tv/Movie acting are very different, I do feel that if all these stars loved the craft so much then why not work in theater? It is because they want money, fame, success and glamour, but then once they have it how do they turn it off?
I stand behind this 100% Why do we never see pictures of Johnny Depp, Julia Roberts, Leo DiCaprio, Will Smith, Jamie Fox, etc. We only see them at events. These people stay out of the public eye because they dont want to be seen. You are only seen if you want to be seen.
I know I am especially hard of Kristen frankly because I dont care for her to much and i look for little confirmation biases the same way the pro-kristen people look for theories that disprove my point. We all have a stance, but I am trying to give her the benefit of the doubt and say that what she said was taken out of context...it doesnt mean i forgot the other comments she has made in the past.
Steph, just curious but why do you spend so much time talking about Kristen if you dislike her? The only time I ever see you posting is when there's a thread about Kristen.
@LeeC
I completely get where you are coming from. I dont mean for it to seem like I'm attacking you because I am not =)
As I said before, I just dont think she thinks about what she says before she says it and who can get hurt by her statements. It was wrong of her to say and she definitely shouldn't have said it, but I think it was sort of an exaggeratory statement.
I 'm sort of 50/50 on it. I think you are right in a way and then again so am I.. it's hard to draw a line for this one.
Jesus god...this isn't a debate, this is a fucking witch hunt...
No wonder Rob and Kris are scared to death with the likes of you people...
No matter what they say or don't say, someone is going to judge them and tear them down. It's one thing not to like someones work, it's another to personally say nasty things about them...
I would feel ashamed if Rob were to ever read some of these comments..
Thankfully they have each other, and good friends around them and solid family foundations to help them with being in the spotlight.
How perfect to walk around all the time and have everything you say be up for debate or torn to shreds..
Are you all so perfect?
It' one thing to have an opinion on a subject, it's another to tie to them to the stake and set them on fire...
ewwwwwww 50....your avi!!!!!!!
@jmm
this is like the 4th time I have answered this today lol. She is a topic that interests me..more of the Robsten phenomenon interests me and by extension i guess that includes her. Its also the one things that riles me up and brings me out of the woodworks while I should be going to sleep because i have to get up for work at 5:45.
@Steph
I was just at Lainey's and saw she wrote a note on K's comments and interview. I haven't been to her page in a while but I do know she is a HUGE K supporter. And she had something to say about Kristen's words. I recommend you read it: http://laineygossip.com/Kristen_Stewart_dumb_comments_in_Elle_UK_and_promotes_Twilight_Eclipse_with_Taylor_Lautner_in_Austra.aspx?CatID=0&CelID=0
It's especially good because she is not being mean to the girl like other gossip places are. Lainey never seems to be too nasty, or at least what I've read, she simply states what seemed obvious to me: that Kristen needs to be a little less egocentrical (sp?). Oh, and I thought it was funny she said ass-talking… just my thoughts. LOL
I know you can say something and have people misunderstand you, or simply misconstrue your words unfairly. I just find it terribly hard to misunderstand comparing her uncomfortable and sucky extreme fame and being raped. She didn’t use the word invaded, she didn’t use the word aggravated, she didn’t use a whole bunch of words that would have accurately described her situation without it being so offensive.
Remember when Rob said he was allergic to vaginas and got slaughtered? He wasn’t thinking very well about how no one was going to understand such an old joke (allergies make you swell….), but he was not being offensive to anyone. He was just being silly. Kristen seems to think too much of and about herself. Comments such as “no one cares as much as I do!” irk me, but this one really took it to another lever.
To take the good with the bad implies that celebrities are in our normal, everyday situations. Many celebrities are not.
There are new pictures of Kristen leaving Australia - Innocent bystanders were pushed out of the way by the paps, police and security were called. Kristen looks scared shitless. No wonder she said what she said about the paps!
As for the rape comment Kristen made it was how she feels and I don't think she meant to disrespect anyone.
Also for those of you who may not be aware... she did play a character in a movie titled Speak where she was a rape victim. She has researched and talked to rape victims - so she isn't clueless in that regard.
OT - I think her ex Michael Angarano was in that movie.
Oh, and Steph! I know you are not attacking me at all! I wouldn't even bother responding did I not respect your opinions 100% , even if they are not always mine. You seem to always be an objective and centered person from what I've read, and your comments have been nothing but respectful to me and others.
@Angie: "Fighting" = simplistic word to describe the disagreements to other's POV or disparaging comments, and sometimes personal attacks (not often and well known who makes them) resulting in long argumentive thread. Not here, not tonight. Which reminds me, I have to check out the other threads I missed today.
@SluttyPattz
I do think her comment was taken out of context, but researching rape does not make on an expert of give someone the right to spout about it. I do think her comment was made in ignorance and was not meant to be taken in the context that people filed it under.
Ultimately rape is about power not sex.
@SluttyPattz
Kristen also did a PSA for victims of rape.
@LeeC
Thank you. I know I am a little abrasive (to put mildly) I just have a very no BS attitude. I try to be objective, but I will let people know when I have a bias. I'm very blunt and stubborn so I dont see myself changing my ways.
If I ever offend you I apologize ahead of time. I like explaining myself. I feel like we all miss so much by not being able to read body language and our texts are taken out of context.
Steph is Legit
I agree she's definitely no expert by researching. It was my point that she isn't insensitive to the topic.
I think as well as it was taken out of context, as the vagina comment was from Rob. Then there were bloggers across the world debating his sexuality and that he was a racist all from one interview.
She may have used the word "rape" prematurely however I do think that she feels assaulted by papz. Cameron Diaz, has also used that word to describe her ongoing issues with papz.
Also someone made a comment about Leonardo and Johnny Depp not dealing with this type of insanity.
When they first hit it big they did deal with this type of stuff. I think once you've evolved as an actor overtime you get a bit of a reprieve from the insanity, unless of course your wife beats your ass and your car with a golf club.
robsjizzlover, I agree with it that it is a witch hunt. Maybe this is one of the major reasons why Rob and Kristen have never admitted anything because they know the hate, criticism, and frankly jealously would double towards Kristen if they did. And this is regardless of any lame comments Kristen may make to the press.
I am with you on that argument Steph!
This is a rob site, and why do we have to like who he is with (???). We love him and care about him. I am hardcore but can also be patient and understanding.
ref Elle UK interview : KS showed the journalist a picture on her Ipod. Check the interview on other site pls.
End of matter.
jmm - I agree with that.......People would hate Kristen even more if they outed their relationship. Some people that is.
I posted the other day that I'd read on Oprah's show -they discussed what she was going to talk about and ask and THE question was raised and O said they could respond however they wanted on camera but that needed to tell her the facts back stage..........and their agent or publicists or someone said they ARE dating (like we didn't know) but then they just are letting our imaginations go wild to keep Rob more "available" to fans I guess and keep people from hating on KStew.
Whatever ------it's just sad that our lives have to be so focused on their relationship.........we need to just get a life!!!! IMHO
As someone who has suffered from the crime of rape, I did not take offense at all to Kristen's use of the word, because I knew what she meant.
The definition of the word 'rape' is to have something taken, stolen from you against your will. And it doesn't necessarily have to be something of a sexual nature.
Bernie Madoff raped the people whose life savings he took, stole from them...against their will.
And what has been taken, stolen from Kristen Stewart? Not much. Just her privacy, her freedom and her anynonimity. Precious, precious things that most human beings don't give a thought to because theirs are not threatened in any way.
You might say, well, she signed up for this when she went into acting. No actor goes into the business hoping to remain in obscurity. But no one signs up for what has happened to their lives either. NO ONE! When every word, every gesture, every glance, every everything about them is analyzed, scrutinized, disected, torn to pieces and most of all...JUDGED by a populace who haven't got the first goddamn clue as to what it is their even talking about AND by an out of control media (the rags, the papps, even the legitimate press) who are indeed raping (stealing pieces of their lives from them) them for the single purpose of making a blessed buck from the populace who sits in judgement of them.
They owe us nothing of their lives. NOTHING! Except a performance in a film that we have paid our money to see.
I'd love to see two things...
1) I would love to see people say the things they say while HIDING behind their computer screens, to their faces. Not just the fans, but those in the media too. The editors of the rags. The Laineys, the Perez Hiltons.
If Robert Pattinson and Kristen Stewart walked in the room all of these fucking hypocrites would fall all over them. Dazzled by their stardom.
And 2)
I love to see some of you walk around in their shoes for just six months. Then come back here and tell us of your experience.
Yup. That's what I'd like to see.
@femroc
we need to just get a life!!!! IMHO
^^^agreed, even though I am in that category lol
@Steph
Wouldn’t this be a much better world if we all took the time to fully explain ourselves? I know, this means of communication leave too much out and so very often people’s feelings get hurt over a misunderstanding. If you ever do hurt my feelings, I’ll be sure to let you know :)
I’m very stubborn as well, I also love to over analyze everything Rob related, just like I’m guessing you and most people here (why else would we be here if not?!). And yeah, this includes Kristen. I think that another reason why I’m interested in Kristen is because I’m torn between the fact that I think that so many things about her are so cool and artistic, and then there is this narcissism she has that really annoy the f*ck out of me. LOL
Either way, I love reading your posts and debates. You are entertaining, controversial and respectful… the perfect combination of my kind of fun!
@SluttyPatz
Oh, the infamous ‘I’m allergic to vaginas’ comment…. I was just talking about it on my last post, did you read? Yeah, they are all abused in a way by the media, and in Rob’s case, seriously misunderstood! Ha ha ha, that was so funny. There are still so many people debating over this out there...
yes, this is a rob site and we do not have to love who he is with BUT do we need to debate it to death either? they have all but said yes, we are together. listen to what they say--they are cryptic but they answer the question if you don't have blinders on--he loves her--we love him--just respect this and move on--
now let's see the next absolutely stunning pic of durty Robkowski--please--goz,Kate and Kat--you guys have an awesome blog!!
here here Nikola6
I feel like toasting you for that comment. Please grab your virtual glass of wine. I am having a Robtini but hey pick your drink of choice.
Ready
Cheers
**clinking glasses**
who he is=who he loves
wens - ITA :))
i haven't commented all night but had to agree with you on that.
someone mentioned kristen & taylor leaving australia, i guess some crazy shit went down and fists were thrown just trying to get that one "PIC". kristen looks pretty frazzled but no pics of taylor.
@Wens, Yup, simply put. That's what it ALL boils down to here (or should) IMO.
Nikola,
You can keep your tiara, you deserve it more!!!! If I had one I'd give it to you...
You said what I was trying to say earlier, but I get too heated & hot mouthed...and you said it perfectly..
Cheers to you!
GREAT words Nik!
ONE MORE TIME...
Summit does not want them public with this relationship. Why? Because they know they've got an EXTREME fanbase on their hands. Half of whom want to fuck him and put a knife in her heart and the other half who want them to be the real life Edward and Bella.
And Summit's fear is that if they go public and then break up badly (a Sandra Bullock/Jesse James kind of badly; she's a slut who broke his heart OR he's a cheating son of a bitch who broke hers) BEFORE they can finish selling this franchise to their EXTREME fanbase, that it will kill part of the fantasy and could COULD hurt ticket sales.
And Summit doesn't want to lose one ticket sale. In fact, with each film...they want MORE!!!
If anyone wants to know why Pattinson and Stewart cannot go public with their love affair...look all over this internet. Listen WHITE NOISE of it. The answer is there.
It's because of this PARTICULAR fanbase.
@Nik, you're in late, but welcome, just caught yours before I put this to bed for the night.
One word: Brilliant! As usual stripping it down to a reality, of two people, whose unparalled life situation none of us can possibly know or imagine.
@nikola6
I've read those rumors before, I guess we all have. If they are indeed true, it makes my heart ache. I think I would rather deal with the paps any day than with a studio telling me how I should handle my personal relationships. If it’s their decision to keep it quiet, that’s their choice, and we’ll all have to accept it. But if they are being forced into secrecy… how sad.
Oh, and someone posted that fans would hate K even more if they just came out and admitted to being a couple. I wouldn't have believed it of any other celebrities, but yeah, I guess this fandom is... particular.
Wow!!! This is a long thread... I'll have to work my way through it, but I wanted to share the newest merchandising ploy: The Cullen Credit Cards... I wonder what the interest rate will be 30%?
Nik: It was just last night we were chatting about all this over-exposed promotional crap from Summit. I think this has hit a new low, low for them, especially in light of the global recession. this is really disgusting to me.
Nik, I want to marry your post. Thank you for putting so eloquently into words exactly what I'm thinking.
ok serious question here,
@Everyone, how come when other ppl say summit has involvement they get criticized, but when nikola says it, it is gospel of paul (not attacking nikola--love ya girl) just an observation. There are some heavy biases on this website and I am just as guilty.
@nik -
Once again I don't feel the need to leave a long rant of a comment because you have voiced everything I would have said.
Rob and Kristen owe us, as well as the media, absolutely nothing. No answers, no avoidance, no flat out denials or confirmations. It's none of our business.
Also I know people have said they wish they would either just give an answer, or stop talking about it altogether. Personally, I don't think they ever talk about "it" (any romantic relationship they may or may not have). What they do talk about is the relationship they have as friends or co-stars and everyone just assumes they're talking about a romantic relationship, or blows it out of context so it seems as though they mean something romantic. example: why would it be weird for Kristen to have a picture of her and Rob on her iPod, even if they were just friends? People automatically assume it's romantic when really there is no proof. And there won't be proof, unless they decide to show us proof.
Okay I guess my comment did become a lengthy rant but I just wanted to touch on that complaint that people seem to be having.
Thank you guys for all of your supportive comments. They mean the world to me because sometimes I feel like I say too much.
And LeeC...
Sweetie. Anyone who is reading this. This is not a rumour. Summit wants this quiet. I cannot tell you how I know this. But it is the truth. Please believe me. I have nothing to gain by putting my head on the chopping block for others to come back at me about this.
Could Rob and Kristen tell Summit to go fuck themselves? Sure they could. They're huge stars now and indelible in these roles and without them, Summit has no Breaking Dawn and there goes billions of dollars out the window.
And if it weren't for this horrible, nasty, jealous, judgemental fandom, maybe they would go public. But they read this internet. They know.
And one other thing that isn't discussed very much and that's fan mail. They have both been threatened in fan mail and a part of them (especially Kristen as most of the vitriol is directed at her) are quite scared of this fanbase.
And who could blame them? Think of some of the horrible things that have been written about them by the fans. If that were you, how would you be feeling? Safe. Secure. Enough to share the details of your love affair with them?
If I were them, I wouldn't give this fanbase a goddamn thing. Except a performance that I'm gonna charge 'em money for.
But that's me.
I can't believe how much of themselves they do give.
They owe us nothing. And with some of the horrific public behavior displayed, we deserve nothing.
@nikola6
Hi im glad to see you again and...
OMFG i was waiting for you to come on here girl i love reading your post you always have something brilliant to say :D
@nikola6
you just read my mind :D
Just read a bit of comments here. But I have to respond to the idea of a "rumor" about Summit putting restrictions on the personal lives of their contracted workers or actors. Lots of corporations have contract regulations that strive to prevent romantic relationships between employees.. in all industries.
Nikola really hits it when she says that Summit won't do/ or have anyone else do/ anything to adversely affect their profits. That isn't illegal, nor unusual; but that doesn't make it good either. We don't have to like it, but it's not our choice nor our contract. This isn't a bias, it's a fact: companies make contracts.
I don't know if Robert of Kristen have contract requirements that prevent them from disclosing specifics on their personal lives, but I wouldn't doubt it.
Hell, if I were writing those contracts (and that is something I have done in this business) I'd add that clause. This is business, we don't have to like or agree with it, but we do have to accept the facts.
Money is money... that's their bottom line.
I added earlier that they are now merchandising a Cullen Credit Card... I don't think they're doing this for free, do you?
@ Belladonna
WTF Cullen Credit Card OMG that is just crazy I love the Twilight Saga but that is insane.....but i would get one of ROB lol...because he's the only one i want in my pocket :D
someone shoot me if i ever own a cullen AMEX card lmao.
seriously what next?
When it's all said and done we'll find out that they really have been only friends. I think this constant "we are, we aren't" is a game they're playing. And it's working because look how everyone talks about it.
Am reading a new fic on twilighted. It's called "Confessions of a Nanny". Wow...lots of juicy lemons and a cute story!
Nik... I'll buy that dinner. :D
Some FF recs (although i know most are reading)
A Rough Start by ItzMegan73
Eye Contact by silver sniper of the night
both not at all my type of FF especially the 2nd, but they are both really good
Steph...
If people do accept what I've had to say about this, it might be because I was trying to point out how most on the internet got it wrong. The predominant theory being that Summit cooked this 'false' romance up and then had them deny it in order drum up interest and then maybe...sell more movie tickets? I pointed out the absurdity of such a ridiculous premise (one more example of how most of what is expressed on the internet is uninformed doo doo).
And some accepted -not my theory- but I said was indeed, a fact. And if someone wishes to believe that someone is being truthful with them, that is their right. And if they want to think someone is full of shit, that too is their right.
At the end of the day, it all comes down to a person's crediblity. Either you have it or you don't. And you cannot make people respect you or force them into finding you credible.
They do that of their own free will.
@nik
I always seem to agree with your comments. It sort of wasnt directed at you, but the rest of the pople on this site. I just find it funny how people take your advise even if someone else was telling the same story. It's not a criticism for you because I believe in what you write and how you present it. I guess maybe its how you say it? I dunno, it was just something i noticed lol
Okay Monique...
I'll have a double double from In-N-Out.
And robsjizz (god I love that screename)...
Tell ya what. We'll take turns with it.
And again to everyone with your great and supportive comments. Thank you so much.
@nikola6
Ok just wanted to let you know that im following you now...and since i read in one of the other thread that you were a little paranoid...im letting you know so that you don't feel paranoid :D
i just really like what you have to say and how you express yourself :D
@ROBsessed...
Oh honey. I was just joking. I mean, I am a bit on the paranoid side, but I knew what followers on a blog were. I just don't know what I'm suppose to do with my followers. I mean, I feel like I need to have you over for Sunday dinner or something to thank you for following me. Although, I must warn you...I have absolutely no idea where I'm going. I'm a too stupid to use one of those GPS fuckers.
I feel like Rob when he said that when he heard that fans had been waiting for hours to see him, that just giving them an autograph didn't feel like enough. He thought that maybe he should get up and do a little dance for them. I remember when he said that and I laughed so hard. Only Rob.
But now I know what he means.
I really don't know how it works.
I really need someone to explain it to me.
And if you want me to dance, I do a real wicked 'twist'.
Can't we all just get along?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ysqh1uzqGrc
I have to agree wholeheartedly with Nik on this: "rape" was not too strong a word in this case. I know the term is brutal and stirs strong emotions in all women, as 1/3 of us are victims of at least one sexual assault sometime in our lives. But I don't imagine Kristen used the term lightly.
"Rape" isn't just a sexual aggression, it's an exertion of brute power and physical dominance, and an act of theft. And that's exactly what's going on here.
Being in this crazed spotlight isn't just having pappz stalk her or flashes always popping off in her eyes. It's having strangers aggressively crowd and shove her, while they yell things like "Are you fucking Rob" It's having people show up on her doorstep, completely violating her privacy. It's receiving death threats in the mail, on web sites, etc. It's people believing they have the right to publicly judge her and flay her for actions they have no personal knowledge of whatsoever (she's a cheater, a slut, a dyke, etc.)
Let's get real about this.... because this is what's happening. Maybe it will give everyone a few more things to think about when they criticize her defensive reaction to the tornadoe she's found herself in.
hi seems everyone has gone to bed,so just a quicky,i was on a next thread all the time reading comments this site loves rob,and they were writing about kristen so i went to pop sugar to see kstew leaving austrila well the pappz had a field day it was nerve recking nothing and i mean nothing LA pappz is joke kristen look so scared maybe 4 cops and two body guards,you have to see this,if i was kristen i was heading straight back home sad so sad
@nikola6
i love reading your post. Your vivid clarity in what you write makes coming to robsessed site a double fun thing.
As much as i would love to know every details about rob and his love life, i totally agree with you that he should disappear for a while and come back later after all of this twilight-craziness has died down.
hey lovely ladies, pls keep voting for ROb for best male , best kiss and global superstar at MTV
http://www.mtv.com/ontv/movieawards/2010/global-superstar/
You need to register first, deadline 3/4 june.
We don't want him coming home empty, since he is going take time out to be there.
To the ones that thought the word rape was too much to use for her situation, go please watch the photos of her leaving Australia, them lets talck about it with no pink glasses on.
Goodmorning
sorry talk
I am angryyyyyyy
Should have known that any post mentioning Kristen would attract 170+ comments...
@ dina
I've just seen footage of K at the airport. That is no way to live. I really feel for them both, but her in particular. She's 20 years old, for heaven's sake! She has never invited that kind of hysteria into her life, and now seems stuck with it, for the forseeable future anyway. Yes, some actors go into it looking for that kind of "fame", but she has never seemed to be one of them.
ITA with you lallieb, on her need for a mentor. She is clearly uncomfortable with the level of attention which has come her way, and her awkwardness in interviews is often, I believe, misconstrued and taken as arrogance.
I did not find her reference to rape offensive. The paparazzi behave in a rapacious manner, so I understand what she meant by that.
(oops - hit publish instead of preview by mistake!)
The thing is, they will both be slated whatever they do. It's their business, and no-one else's. I don't believe that the situation would be improved by them confirming their relationship, in fact it would probably exacerbate it. If they were openly together, the pap rats would be desperately looking for signs of strain, or infidelity etc., because, sadly,that's what sells.
@ dina i saw that pics last night, at 2.20 am here aprox (yes, i'm crazy...)
horrible, she was about to cry.
I've said this before and i'll say it again and again: R&K, please, for your own sake, leave Twilight Saga and the spotlight. Go back to indie...(well, the aslt one is just my desire)
I've spent a long time reading this and I think it's fantastic that criticism here is given as a POV rather than an attack. That's why I've pretty much given up on other Rob sites these days. Anyway with these posts - who has time to go elsewhere.
@Nik
You have a genious for condensing everything into perfect sense and you've summed it up beautifully as usual, including the definition of rape which no one covered, either in posts or magazines etc. I've also noticed that you dangle the carrot too - yes you do! You often say little things that show that you know things like "if only you knew", or "with that, I've said too much" etc. I usually read your stuff a day after you've written it so it makes me wonder .... because you have gone by then. No criticism intended, just interest, I believe what you say in a way that I wouldn't from other sources.
@steph
I see your point, but I can't blame her for getting grumpy and shooting her mouth off - she's more mature than I could ever been at her age. I had insecurities about my myself and if the world had been picking me to pieces then I'd have been a complete mess. I don't evny her the stress of being his GF as there are so many out there willing it to fail. If she lets things get to her it will put a strain on the relationship.
@spunky
If they had a normal relationship then they could reveal all proudly but their relationship is in the centre of a hurricane.
R&K are famous actors and we've all grown having opinions and expectations of how stars should conduct themselves. R&K broke the rules and not everyone likes that. Any idiot can follow rules, but it takes someone of intelligence to break them - to quote a line. Good luck to them. They don't owe us pics of them holding hands and the papps don't deserve the pics having made their lives hell. We have learned to expect that they owe us something, but like Nik says who are we to demand anything of them.
Kristen does need a good mentor. She is beginning to lash out. Best for her to always say: "no comment" to everything.
I agree that Kristen needs someone to support and mentor her. And LovesRob, it's sad that you think Rob and Kristen are playing games. They seem like totally authentic people to me, and Kristen especially doesn't seem to enjoy the spotlight.
i think K is i still young and very fragile. one moment she is fliping the papz and mocking them.then the next day she looks like she is gonna cry. she needs a very stong support system or she wont be able to handle fame.
i'm so thankful that rob has a strong support system. from family,friends to agent and manager nick :)
Re Kristen and Elle: There are two other important entities involved in a magazine interview. One is the interviewer/writer and the other is the magazine/publisher itself. Both of them edit the material for their own purposes and separate us from the actual event of the interview. We don't really know what was said, how it was said, in what context. We receive edited information. We're being manipulated to some extent, for the purposes of selling magazines. Inflammatory stuff sells. The only answer, like Rob said after the Details fiasco is "don't do interviews".
@Nikola
Girl, you hit the nail on the head about Summit. There are two more movies in the Twilight Saga. What if Rob and Kristen admit that they are dating and then low and behold they break up? There goes the ticket sales and all Summit wants is the big bucks. Imagine, the two top stars of their movie broken up off screen, it will kill the sales. Of course not for everyone but definitely, it will affect the sales.
@Spunk. Rob and Kristen are not having a normal relationship, they are two celebrities who are having a relationship in public. There is a different and it has nothing to do with being ashamed of being with each other, it's called privacy. I'm a Chris Martin and Gwyneth fan as well and believe me, they are just as bad. Yes, we know they are married and have two children but they are never seen together and never go anywhere together (awards etc etc) of course they have a normal, happy marriage but they want their privacy most of all.
Rob and Kristen are never going to come out and say Yes, we are a couple but I also think, they are not hiding it either. It's just up to the public to decide for themselves. They held hands in November (I know some people don't think of that as holding hands), she spend NYE with him in england, she went to Rob for his birthday. When are the public going to put two and two together??? It's not Rob and Kristen who are hiding, I think it's the public who don't want to admit it.
Wow!!
Guess I missed the “debate”.
Not even bothering to read certain people’s commentaries on the lives of those they personally know nothing about, but I will say this, walk one day in either of their shoes. One freaking day, and enlighten me as to how you would live your life differently. Or, better yet, when you become famous, do the exact opposite of Rob and Kristen and make sure you don’t protect your privacy, make sure that every living person knows everything about you, make sure you are on the cover of every gossip mag possible, make sure you whore yourself out to gossip websites and the blogs and to any and every one who will listen to your endless prattle.
JFC, for women who are supposedly “fans” of Rob’s, you are just disgusting in your hatred for a woman in his life, regardless if it is as a close friend or as a girlfriend. I find it interesting that the most hate comes from girls close to his age. Do you really think you have a chance with him?
As a woman, I don’t find many things sadder than women ripping another woman apart. Get over yourselves. There are blogs out there where you can go and be as nasty as you want to be regarding Kristen Stewart, this blog is called ROBsessed.
And by the way, Angie-K has NEVER attacked anyone on this blog. NEVER. She is one the sweetest, loveliest women I know. Read her comments before you make stupid accusations.
I wish GwenCooper wasn’t dealing with RL right now, because she does this best. But this is for some of you, you know who you are.
Jealousy
1. jealous resentment against a rival, a person enjoying success or advantage, etc., or against another's success or advantage itself.
2. mental uneasiness from suspicion or fear of rivalry, unfaithfulness, etc., as in love or aims.
4. a jealous feeling, disposition, state, or mood.
NBU!!!
@Cullenlover - ITA with you - I don't envy R/K in the slightest. I enjoy their work as artists but would NEVER want to walk a day in their shoes.
People are so passionate on THIS blog and spend relentless hours posting/defending their comments.
IMAGINE if it were millions of websites/blogs you would have to defend your comments on. Their interviews are so disected and edited that its crazy. If you read a transcript of an interview and then hear the audio sometimes lots of things are lost in translation.
That is why I don't envy them in the slightest. No matter what they say/do its a lose/lose someone always ends up pissed. They can't please everyone.
*stands up and claps for CL*
Well said, sister!! And Angie-K, you are awesome, sweetie. :)
NBU!!!
I just saw the photos taken of Kristen leaving Sydney. I am so disgusted by how she was treated there I hope that she stands up against the push for more Twilight promotion. I know she has to do a certain amount, but this is now an unhealthy situation for her to be in.
I'm so disturbed by this constant rush to see photos and hear words dropped that I'm pulling back myself. I don't want to be a part of this horrible pappz audience. No one deserves this kind of treatment. It is a form of rape as discussed here in this thread. Both she and Robert are virtual prisoners,,, held hostage by this grotesque fandom... today, I'm ashamed to be on that group.
@Cerulean: your reminder about editors being between even the interviewer and the subject is a good one. They do have the final 'cut.' I too wish some interviews could be avoided but its part of the agreed PR...
This thread may be dead, but I wanted to put in my cents. :D.
At the risk of boring some of you, because I've said it so much before: Rob, Kristen, or anyone else owe us nothing other than the performances they are paid for, that we pay to see. I won't go into extreme analogies again(was taken to task the last time)but the bottom line is still valid: Do not rationalize that because a person chooses acting as a profession (or actng chooses him; he needs to create via acting) that he chooses fame, pappz, adoration, noise, loss of private life. Do not rationalize that earning a lot of money means one has lost the rght to complain or be upset about things in life. Earning a big paycheck does not mean one surrenders his/her privacy, personal secrets, life. Choosing acting as a career is not a 'p' wth the 'q' being seekng fame and loss of privacy.
As for talkng about Kristen on this site: On the one hand, I really like her and feel Rob and Kristen are good for each other in so many ways (and no, I do not know them personally; i can only use my sense and senses and extrapolate) and I also feel, as does CullenLover, taht sicne this is a rob site, and Kristen is at the very least a very good close friend of ROb, that at the very least people ought not be putting her down here or insulting here. (I have my ideas about why some of you do, but I won't get into it here again.) I have thought about this and wondered if Rob were with someone that disgusted me would I have this same attitude? And I answer, yes. I might just say so and so is not my cup of tea, but would be happy for ROb if he is happy and healthy and safe.
And I hope that no matter how we are fascnated with ROb, that we all want that for himself, that he be hapy, healthy and safe.
And by the way-- I know what rape is, and I am not offended by her use of the word, don't thnk she used it lightly (I don't thnk she uses any words lightly) and I understand her use of it.
woah, that was a bit of a night! Only just dropped by.... Anything or Anyone that out Beautiful Rob loves is worth protecting, and that includes Kristen.
woah, that was a bit of a night! Only just dropped by.... Anything or Anyone that our Beautiful Rob loves is worth protecting, and that includes Kristen.
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