rpattzgirl - I was thinking the same thing - seems like Edward has an awful lot of makeup in this one. Who did the makeup on this film? Too bad, we can't see Rob's beautiful face better.
faeoo7,i just finish looking at new moon because they we fixing my internet and phone since it was gone and i tried to like jake no cannot he is so jealous and short tempered and even though after bella and jake had their passionate kiss she still choosed edward and jake still could not accept that he when so far as to say even if she was a vampire he still wanted her thank the lord when she became a vampire she never had that want or need for him anymore i love eclipse and breaking dawn
GAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Why does fierceRobward make me go so crazy??!! Angie, JazzGirl POOF is right!!!!!!!
lmao Fae.. Yes... Robward does look bigger!!! BIGGER AND BETTER AND COLDER AND HARDER!!!
RPG heavy makeup on Rob always in Twilight movies... they haven't gotten it just right.. Eclipse one looks the best so far though... idk :D Still hot!!!
Back from my walk... thank goodness I was able to find my way home!
@woms - OMFG!! "BIGGER AND BETTER AND COLDER AND HARDER!!!"
Fae & FiftySoP - are you two at it again? JG? CB? Now cut that out!
RobWard, FierceWard, Robkowski, Robler, BAFTARob, RomeRob, SexDriveRob, MexicoRob, CannesRob, DetailsRob, VFRob...oh wait,ummm where was I going with this?!?
They should use that for a tagline "Bigger, Better, Colder, Harder"!!
@ angie We are behaving today - honest! I'm pushing it a little coz Fae's bragging about her Fifty "punishment" ;) All this made me momentarily forget about all the other Robs I love - how could I leave out MexicoRob? Too many to choose so I'll just take him as he comes... ;))
WOW! If Edward had the ability to explode peoples heads off using his mind, I believe Jacobs would have been a lawn ornemant on the Swan's front lawn after that confrontation. Too bad he couldn't, eh.
Anyhoo, I really don't think Kristen played Bella well enough in that moment. She was supposed to be angry at Jake, not protective. That kinda rubs me the wrong way. Hmmm.
kerri,i cannot stand jake in those books and because of that,i cannot make it pass me to like taylor and i know that's wrong i am trying so far it's not working but i know it's just me and i will be honest about something else anyway not going to write it it's wrong. my sister looked at new moon with me she have no likes for bella for having edward putup with all jake's insults because he do not want to hurt her
Love Fierceward in Jake's face....GAH!!! He looks so badass!!!! I'm going to love Edward even more in this, he's not holding back as much like in the last two.
Last shot is absolutely handsome!Anger superlatively expressed by Edward makes up for the for all the the forelone expressions in TW1and TW2.Thanks for posting these.
@Denise - I agree this Edward is tough. Let me give you a clue!! His eyes are incredible.
@rpg,cindy & womadsart - Ladies the makeup is too heavy, but Edward is still the one.
Cant' Summit hire a decent makeup team. I have been so disappointed with the hair and makeup for these movies. It makes the production look cheap. There is no excuse for this. I've seen a lot of the vampire movies and TV shows, such as, Underworld, True Blood, Kindred, Blade and Interview With a Vampire. They seem to be able to get the makeup right. Why is it so difficult for the Twilight Saga movies?
I don't know if you're still on the blog, but I answered you on one of the pap photo (HQ photos from yesterday) threads. At the moment it's at the bottom of the front page (and with the steady stream of papp photos coming in), it's gonna disappear soon. It's got at (at the moment), 168 comments.
I think you're going to want to read this. I talked about how this business is run (the filth of it) and why it is I think that Rob has never participated in that filth (if I knew he had, I wouldn't be here investing in him).
If anyone sees this and Solas shows up anywhere would you pleas direct her to that thread. I'd really appreciate it.
And...I think I'm going to be taking a break from the blog for a bit. I don't know though. With my big mouth, ya never know. If I see something that makes me nuts, I might just hop on and scream about it. But now we've got airel shots coming in and that's just too much for me. Those bastards get too close and spook some of those animals, people could get hurt.
And I know that my comments about all of this make most uncomfortable around here and I don't want to do that. I want everyone to have fun.
But please, I'm begging you to think about just this one thing...
Your fun is coming at his expense. Please believe me on this. I can't explain on a public blog. But please trust me on this. He is paying in ways that you don't understand with all of this.
What can we do as ordinary people( we do not belong any where in the movie buisness - some of us share totally diametrically opposite professions) to stop this nonsense-the aerial shots taken at the set. Can we send petition or some thing ?just a question, is that how it works?Thx
NO! There is nothing to be done. As long as there is a demand for his photos, that demand will be met. And this is not about promoting his career. As I said last night, this is about (and I'm gonna quote myself, 'cause I said it just right)..."morally corrupt individuals stealing pieces of his life (and his 'in process' work) in order to make a blessed buck." (I think that's what I said).
Back in the day papps only had magazines and newspapers to sell their wares too, but now with the internet? It has exploded and has spiraled completely out of control. I always thought it would ease up some if they got someone killed in their pursuits. But not even papparzzi involvement in the death of the Princess of Wales, slowed it down. If anything, it's gotten worse.
Actually, there is one thing that people can do, not that it will help (unless EVERYBODY all over the internet does it), but it might give some peace of mind that they're not helping to stir the shitpot.
STAY AWAY FROM THE SOURCE SITES!!!
Let the ladies of this blog go and get the pictures and bring them here. Look at them HERE! If everyone on this blog (and all the other blogs) and all of the lurkers (how many thousands or millions is that?) if were all running to the source sites and giving them all of these thousands and millions of hits, the price tag for his photos will remain sky high and that bullseye will remain firmly on his forehead.
Whatever these ladies bring to us, let that be enough. Don't go there to see them all. Why do we need to see TWENTY pictures of him filming a scene when the half dozen or so that are brought here will show us enough.
But...everyone has to decide what it is they're comfortable with and what they NEED! I just think that in this particular instance (this level of intrusion into his work), that HIS needs are more important than our own.
But those are my feelings and everyone else has got to decide what their feelings are about it.
Nik, hope you haven't left yet. You said something in that 168 long thread about Rob having his eyes opened during the month he spent in Hollywood before Twilight. I have thought that something happened to him in his mid to late teens that opened his eyes and matured him beyond his years. I don't know, maybe that trip all by himself to South Africa to film what he calls "the viking" movie, or an older girlfriend seducing him then leaving, or his dad making him pay for the expensive exclusive school. Now I think I'll add that Hollywood experience too. He acts (both personally and professionally) and looks much older than his years. We all grow up but he did so fast, left his boyhood behind a long time ago.
I'm sure he's had those gorgeous eyes opened many times to many things as he's grown up. And being the intelligent lad that he is, apparently he has learned from those experiences.
What I was referring to 'specifically' is that I think he had his eyes opened to the depravity of Hollywood stardom. That more times than not, there is a price tag on that stardom and I don't think he was willing to pay it. So he left.
And I don't think he's payed for it now 'in that way'. It was his very good luck that Kristen Steward was cast in Twilight.
I am sorry to hear that other then staying away from the site on the internet which are so called pappz sites there is there no other way to stop this, thanks.
Nik, that makes sense. I can see him leaving it all without a second thought. He is refreshing, natural. One of the things I like/love about him so much is his integrity. I don't think he sleeps around promiscuously or is particularly ruled by money. A rarity apparently in the business he has chosen.
I've been around this business my entire life and I have never encountered an actor who has impressed me in the way that Robert Pattinson has. NEVER!
I've never come to the internet before to talk about another one. I'm not starstruck and that's because I've been around it all of my life.
And I'm not starstruck where Rob is concerned. I am awestuck where he is concerned.
I just hope that over the years, it doesn't corrupt him too as that would break my heart. There is an innocense about him that is beyond rare in this business.
But...he is as susceptable to the corruptness as anyone else. I would hope that he would up and walk away from it first if he realized that it was changing him.
So far...so good. And I figure if the changes were going to come, it would have happened in the first year of his stardom, his MEGA stardom when all the doors to entitlement and excess were opened to him. Apparantly he has chosen not to go through those doors.
And I think Kristen Stewart has figured out the Hollywood scene as you describe Nik. I think that's amazing for a barely 20 year-old. Unfortunately her unwillingness to play the game will cost her future roles but for some people it's better to live your life with integrity than compromise your values. Sorry, not trying to turn this into a Kristen thread!
Nik, oh yes, I hope and pray that he will survive as he is. I know some change is inevitable, Rob is not going to stagnate with the intellect he has, but I do hope he will retain his core values, honesty and integrity and remain balanced, grounded and safe. I suppose some of that will depend upon how this thing (non thing) with KS works out. What I want for him is out of my control but he is a treasure to be sure and I cannot help but care what happens to him.
I think one of the reasons I like Kristen so much is that her additudes about all of this mirror my own. And I'm supposing that's because we grew up in the same environment. Her folks are in the business too. And...she got started in acting as a child and even with the horrible pitfalls there, sexual abuse (or the trading of sexual favors for stardom) usually bypasses the children. Not always, but pretty much. But Kristen's parents kept her head screwed on straight and apparently the fates were looking out for Robert Pattinson because they were put in each other's paths. And don't think she hasn't helped him to navigate through these shark invested waters. She has.
And Laurie...
I hear ya. I care what happens to him too and that is the weird part. I don't care what happens to actors. I've never emotionally invested in a one of them. But I did with Rob and I think it goes back to that first day I encountered him. Not knowing who he was or a thing about him, all I saw was a frightened kid that I KNEW was about to get hit with something that I was sure would drown him. But so far? Little bugger's still got his head above water and paddling as fast as he can. But he took hold of my heartstrings that day and he has yet to let go.
I remember as my friend and I were driving away from San Diego that day, the thought came into my head...
'Edward might be the lion, but that little one I've just walked away from?...
Notice that Rob and Tay are close to the same height in the face off with each other and Bella in the middle. But when Charlie intervenes you can tell more of a difference in their height - wierd!!
@Kerri and evangeline, agree...do not care for Bella's protective ways of Jacob in this scene either...did not like Jacob in the book, and I see the way Summit has made his character more likable in the movies, at the expense of Edward...DO NOT LIKE IT!
@rpattzgirl, again agree...Edward's makeup was way off in NW, and only slightly better in Eclipse. Again, to me, CH had the better Edward makeup...
Now, any Robward I get to see is fine, as long as I can luxuriate in the "pretty!" ;-)
Nik, Solas was on the thread about Robert willing your friends, the second post about it, with, now, I think, 57 or 58 comments. She was just there. Frankly, I wondered why you hadn't returned there too.
And Nik...what's this about you staying low? Stop that talk! Stop it right now.
Everyone here has to get this message of yours and be reminded of it and I,for one, think it needs to be hammered into all our heads.
People have stopped realizing Robert is a human being with needs and what all this does is violate him terribly. I have to rethink saving that one zillionth photo I have if it is an intrusive pap shot. So continue.
And about your humour: Yeah, you can be hilarious. But, if it is at the cost of your own health--the insomnia, which, believe me, I share--it bothers me when people here egg you on. We all love validation and I love an appreciative audience too, but just because you're funny when wasted and sleep-deprived--it is an interesting state of consciousness, I agree--doesn't mean you should continue. I hope what I'm saying makes sense and doesn't insult you, because, just as we love Rob and want him to stay safe, so do I want that for you.
Besides, you're funny anytime. I'll copy this also onto another thread; it's a bitch 'communicating' this way, ain't it. Luv ya. xo
I'm sorry... This is just wrong. I do NOT like how they played this scene. It is SO far off from the book!
Edward looks desperate and jealous here, which makes him look as WEAK as Jacob.
From Eclipse, Ch. 15:
"Edward spoke in a voice so peaceful and gentle that it made the words strangely more threatening. 'I'm not going to kill you now because that would upset Bella.'
'Hmph,' I grumbled.
Edward turned slightly to throw me a quick smile. His face was still calm. 'It would bother you in the morning.' he said, brushing a finger across my cheek.
But if you ever bring her back damaged again - and I don't care whose fault it is; I don't care is she merely trips, or if a meteor falls out of the sky and hits her head - if you return her to me in less than the perfect condition that I left her in, you will be running with three legs. Do you understand that, mongrel?"
Now, THAT is Edward!
In the book Bella is the one who is spewing angry threats at Jacob.
Control is one of the things that made Edward look strong... so WHY did they let/direct Rob to act pissy here?! This seems so cliche.
yeah, I a agree. A bit of overacting here probably due to poor directing. Don't get me wrong, fierceward is hawt but in the book Edward never really shouted or lost his cool. Plus, it's hard to look threatening with those red, pouty, perfectly painted lips.
I think Rob still looks beautiful, but his hair is kind of flat. His makeup is too pasty white. His beautiful bone structure is still visible, thankfully. Only Rob could get away with still looking gorgeous with all this crap on his face!
@captivated2, you are so right. I will get killed for this but... I admired SM at what she had done with these story, but, I do not admired her for what she let Melissa Rosenburg/Summit done to her characters. Especially Edward. Now, what I've read and saw of Eclipse... they took a few minute of indisiveness and Bella's part and make it into possible a two hour freaking love triangle melodrama...I've read Eclipse and the Edward that was in that book is nowhere in this movie. I will see the movie... Robert in movies is worth both the price and the viewing and as a fan of his I will see them...but, from what I've seen so far... then we will get to the part where Bella jump on a bike and ride off with Jacob at school with everyone looking and humilate Edward... I am sure when I see the movie I will wonder why Edward bother and after she comes home... will he be the one waiting like a little puppy dog for her or what... How will they play that scene.
Maybe it will be different when view all together, but I am diffinately not likin how they portrait Bella and her treatment of Edward in this movie... "Sigh" I was so lokking forward to the movie too. with each spoiler I an not enjoying this.
**Nicola6, don't you dare stay away, I enjoy yours posts too much.**
It's hard to think that we have to wait another five weeks to see the film, and I'm thinking that I don't want to see any more of these tidbits because I don't want to spoil the emotional effect these movies have for me. It is almost impossible though...I hold out for a day or so, but then my obsession for all things RP takes over.
**Nicola6 > your comments are always insightful and interesting & as someone new to this site, I'm dying to know the entire story of your encounter with Rob back before he went SuperNova.
I for one am more than happy to stay away from all the Papz sites if it means it would discourage them. We are lucky to have this site to go to every day with PLENTY of good stuff to satisfy our yearnings...Thank you!!
Monique - I totally agree about Summit/Melissa Rosenburg. WHY did they change directors but not screenwriters? She has done a lousy job of adapting the books IMO, and I can't believe SM has let her mangle some of the best parts, again and apparently AGAIN.
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73 comments:
I love fierce & angryward!!!!
Is it me, or did they really go heavy on Edwards makeup? Robs lips are a beautiful rosy shade & they used a lot of lipstain this time around...
GAH!!
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POOF!!!!!
POOF!!!!
T
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FierceWard Rocks My World!!
Between FierceWard & RobKowski my World is Rocked & my brain is mush.
I may be wandering around incoherently at some point in the near future...
FILTM!!!
I can't think anymore...
Who's gonna not think with me? ;)
And isn't Jacob supposed to be bigger than Edward!
LMAO!!!
Oh you tall Rob you!
FILTM
Rob became quite a hunk over the last few years! Yum!
Hi Fae!! I'm already not thinking...
FILTM!!!
Angie
Ok, I'm joining you then!
Who am I? Where am I? What?
I like this edward :) he is fighting for his woman, and he looks sexy LOL
rpg - agree about the make up.
OT - is anyone reading FF Just wait??? it updated yesterday, and it's just soooo sad.
@ Fae and @ angie
Right with you girls in the non-thinking corner!
Gah - Fierceward, love him almost as much as RobKowski...
This is all too much - off for a lie down...
rpattzgirl - I was thinking the same thing - seems like Edward has an awful lot of makeup in this one. Who did the makeup on this film? Too bad, we can't see Rob's beautiful face better.
LOL Fifty!
Don't make me choose...
cause it would be Jake! ;) LMAO!!!!
I'm kidding, I'm kidding! :)
Fiftyshadesofpink
I'm just trying to make Fifty get angry with you!
He gave me a hard time yesterday!
LMAO!
@ Fae
Oh, Fifty gave you a hard time yesterday, did he?
What kind of a punishment was that for your wicked indiscretions? Sounds more like a reward...
I could never choose anyone else over Fierceward/RobKowski - even JG!
LMAO!!!
Fae
LMAO ???
@Fifty
I'll just say it was... HARD! LMAO! ;)
Me neither, even CB! ;)
Oh yeah and Tyler is still in the game! :)
Oh and BAFTA ofc! ;)
@luvnrob
Why questionmarks?
LOL
faeoo7,i just finish looking at new moon because they we fixing my internet and phone since it was gone and i tried to like jake no cannot he is so jealous and short tempered and even though after bella and jake had their passionate kiss she still choosed edward and jake still could not accept that he when so far as to say even if she was a vampire he still wanted her thank the lord when she became a vampire she never had that want or need for him anymore i love eclipse and breaking dawn
GAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Why does fierceRobward make me go so crazy??!!
Angie, JazzGirl POOF is right!!!!!!!
lmao Fae.. Yes... Robward does look bigger!!! BIGGER AND BETTER AND COLDER AND HARDER!!!
RPG heavy makeup on Rob always in Twilight movies... they haven't gotten it just right.. Eclipse one looks the best so far though... idk :D Still hot!!!
Back from my walk... thank goodness I was able to find my way home!
@woms - OMFG!! "BIGGER AND BETTER AND COLDER AND HARDER!!!"
Fae & FiftySoP - are you two at it again? JG? CB? Now cut that out!
RobWard, FierceWard, Robkowski, Robler, BAFTARob, RomeRob, SexDriveRob, MexicoRob, CannesRob, DetailsRob, VFRob...oh wait,ummm where was I going with this?!?
FILTM...
@evangeline
But he was dragged to her only because of Renesmee. You know that even Jake was wondering why he haven't imprinted on her.
@woms
Bigger, better, colder, harder, faster, stronger.... Where is my mind??? ;)
Fae
I was just asking what LMAO means I'm not very good at this Sorry
@Angie
No, we're not!!!!
I'm just saying I received my punishment for that yesterday!
It won't happen again! ;)
CB who? :)
@luvnrob
Laughing my ass off!
Thanks
I feel so stupid .Rob does that to me I just can't think.
@ woms
They should use that for a tagline "Bigger, Better, Colder, Harder"!!
@ angie
We are behaving today - honest! I'm pushing it a little coz Fae's bragging about her Fifty "punishment" ;) All this made me momentarily forget about all the other Robs I love - how could I leave out MexicoRob? Too many to choose so I'll just take him as he comes... ;))
@fifty - "I'll just take him as he comes... ;))"
Thanks! I'll be heading to the naughty corner right now...
@fae - punishment? do share...email?
@Angie
Haha, Fifty doesn't wanna be shared.
I've got just a few words:
Twitchy palms, clenched jaw, hand through hair, hard, rough.
You get the point! ;)
@Fae- Yes, I get the point...
oh, how I get the point!
LMNBArseO!
@Angie
So I don't need to mention leather crop, cuffs, iPod, blindfold... ;)
@Fae - no, you, um, don't need to mention those...NB brain already went there & likes it! ;)))
@Angie
You have a dirty mind! LMNBArseO!
What does iPod or leather crop has to do with your mind goign there?;)
iPod is for listening to music! Duuh!
WOW! If Edward had the ability to explode peoples heads off using his mind, I believe Jacobs would have been a lawn ornemant on the Swan's front lawn after that confrontation. Too bad he couldn't, eh.
Anyhoo, I really don't think Kristen played Bella well enough in that moment. She was supposed to be angry at Jake, not protective. That kinda rubs me the wrong way. Hmmm.
@fae
yeah listening music but it depends on what you are doing while listening ir ;)
@Fae - Duuh! My Arse! I know what you're up to...
;)
kerri,i cannot stand jake in those books and because of that,i cannot make it pass me to like taylor and i know that's wrong i am trying so far it's not working but i know it's just me and i will be honest about something else anyway not going to write it it's wrong. my sister looked at new moon with me she have no likes for bella for having edward putup with all jake's insults because he do not want to hurt her
Love Fierceward in Jake's face....GAH!!! He looks so badass!!!!
I'm going to love Edward even more in this, he's not holding back as much like in the last two.
Yea in the book Bella was so angry & wanted Edward to do something and Edward didn't because he knew Bella would eventually forgive jake...
But I kinda like this approach becuase Edward is just fyck that, don't touch her dog!!!!
He's like snarlward!!!!
Last shot is absolutely handsome!Anger superlatively expressed by Edward makes up for the for all the the forelone expressions in TW1and TW2.Thanks for posting these.
@Denise - I agree this Edward is tough. Let me give you a clue!!
His eyes are incredible.
@rpg,cindy & womadsart - Ladies the makeup is too heavy, but Edward is still the one.
Cant' Summit hire a decent makeup team. I have been so disappointed with the hair and makeup for these movies. It makes the production look cheap. There is no excuse for this.
I've seen a lot of the vampire movies and TV shows, such as, Underworld, True Blood, Kindred, Blade and Interview With a Vampire. They seem to be able to get the makeup right. Why is it so difficult for the Twilight Saga movies?
Solas...
I don't know if you're still on the blog, but I answered you on one of the pap photo (HQ photos from yesterday) threads. At the moment it's at the bottom of the front page (and with the steady stream of papp photos coming in), it's gonna disappear soon. It's got at (at the moment), 168 comments.
I think you're going to want to read this. I talked about how this business is run (the filth of it) and why it is I think that Rob has never participated in that filth (if I knew he had, I wouldn't be here investing in him).
If anyone sees this and Solas shows up anywhere would you pleas direct her to that thread. I'd really appreciate it.
And...I think I'm going to be taking a break from the blog for a bit. I don't know though. With my big mouth, ya never know. If I see something that makes me nuts, I might just hop on and scream about it. But now we've got airel shots coming in and that's just too much for me. Those bastards get too close and spook some of those animals, people could get hurt.
And I know that my comments about all of this make most uncomfortable around here and I don't want to do that. I want everyone to have fun.
But please, I'm begging you to think about just this one thing...
Your fun is coming at his expense. Please believe me on this. I can't explain on a public blog. But please trust me on this. He is paying in ways that you don't understand with all of this.
What can we do as ordinary people( we do not belong any where in the movie buisness - some of us share totally diametrically opposite professions) to stop this nonsense-the aerial shots taken at the set. Can we send petition or some thing ?just a question, is that how it works?Thx
sarsaparilla...
NO! There is nothing to be done. As long as there is a demand for his photos, that demand will be met. And this is not about promoting his career. As I said last night, this is about (and I'm gonna quote myself, 'cause I said it just right)..."morally corrupt individuals stealing pieces of his life (and his 'in process' work) in order to make a blessed buck." (I think that's what I said).
Back in the day papps only had magazines and newspapers to sell their wares too, but now with the internet? It has exploded and has spiraled completely out of control. I always thought it would ease up some if they got someone killed in their pursuits. But not even papparzzi involvement in the death of the Princess of Wales, slowed it down. If anything, it's gotten worse.
Actually, there is one thing that people can do, not that it will help (unless EVERYBODY all over the internet does it), but it might give some peace of mind that they're not helping to stir the shitpot.
STAY AWAY FROM THE SOURCE SITES!!!
Let the ladies of this blog go and get the pictures and bring them here. Look at them HERE! If everyone on this blog (and all the other blogs) and all of the lurkers (how many thousands or millions is that?) if were all running to the source sites and giving them all of these thousands and millions of hits, the price tag for his photos will remain sky high and that bullseye will remain firmly on his forehead.
Whatever these ladies bring to us, let that be enough. Don't go there to see them all. Why do we need to see TWENTY pictures of him filming a scene when the half dozen or so that are brought here will show us enough.
But...everyone has to decide what it is they're comfortable with and what they NEED! I just think that in this particular instance (this level of intrusion into his work), that HIS needs are more important than our own.
But those are my feelings and everyone else has got to decide what their feelings are about it.
I meant...
Let the ladies WHO RUN THIS BLOG go and get the pictures and bring them here.
Sorry. Me being anal again.
Nik, hope you haven't left yet. You said something in that 168 long thread about Rob having his eyes opened during the month he spent in Hollywood before Twilight. I have thought that something happened to him in his mid to late teens that opened his eyes and matured him beyond his years. I don't know, maybe that trip all by himself to South Africa to film what he calls "the viking" movie, or an older girlfriend seducing him then leaving, or his dad making him pay for the expensive exclusive school. Now I think I'll add that Hollywood experience too. He acts (both personally and professionally) and looks much older than his years. We all grow up but he did so fast, left his boyhood behind a long time ago.
Laurie...
I'm sure he's had those gorgeous eyes opened many times to many things as he's grown up. And being the intelligent lad that he is, apparently he has learned from those experiences.
What I was referring to 'specifically' is that I think he had his eyes opened to the depravity of Hollywood stardom. That more times than not, there is a price tag on that stardom and I don't think he was willing to pay it. So he left.
And I don't think he's payed for it now 'in that way'. It was his very good luck that Kristen Steward was cast in Twilight.
In more ways than one.
I am sorry to hear that other then staying away from the site on the internet which are so called pappz sites there is there no other way to stop this, thanks.
Nik, that makes sense. I can see him leaving it all without a second thought. He is refreshing, natural. One of the things I like/love about him so much is his integrity. I don't think he sleeps around promiscuously or is particularly ruled by money. A rarity apparently in the business he has chosen.
Laurie...
I've been around this business my entire life and I have never encountered an actor who has impressed me in the way that Robert Pattinson has. NEVER!
I've never come to the internet before to talk about another one. I'm not starstruck and that's because I've been around it all of my life.
And I'm not starstruck where Rob is concerned. I am awestuck where he is concerned.
I just hope that over the years, it doesn't corrupt him too as that would break my heart. There is an innocense about him that is beyond rare in this business.
But...he is as susceptable to the corruptness as anyone else. I would hope that he would up and walk away from it first if he realized that it was changing him.
So far...so good. And I figure if the changes were going to come, it would have happened in the first year of his stardom, his MEGA stardom when all the doors to entitlement and excess were opened to him. Apparantly he has chosen not to go through those doors.
Fingers crossed he never does.
And I think Kristen Stewart has figured out the Hollywood scene as you describe Nik. I think that's amazing for a barely 20 year-old. Unfortunately her unwillingness to play the game will cost her future roles but for some people it's better to live your life with integrity than compromise your values. Sorry, not trying to turn this into a Kristen thread!
Nik, oh yes, I hope and pray that he will survive as he is. I know some change is inevitable, Rob is not going to stagnate with the intellect he has, but I do hope he will retain his core values, honesty and integrity and remain balanced, grounded and safe. I suppose some of that will depend upon how this thing (non thing) with KS works out. What I want for him is out of my control but he is a treasure to be sure and I cannot help but care what happens to him.
jmm4832...
I think one of the reasons I like Kristen so much is that her additudes about all of this mirror my own. And I'm supposing that's because we grew up in the same environment. Her folks are in the business too. And...she got started in acting as a child and even with the horrible pitfalls there, sexual abuse (or the trading of sexual favors for stardom) usually bypasses the children. Not always, but pretty much. But Kristen's parents kept her head screwed on straight and apparently the fates were looking out for Robert Pattinson because they were put in each other's paths. And don't think she hasn't helped him to navigate through these shark invested waters. She has.
And Laurie...
I hear ya. I care what happens to him too and that is the weird part. I don't care what happens to actors. I've never emotionally invested in a one of them. But I did with Rob and I think it goes back to that first day I encountered him. Not knowing who he was or a thing about him, all I saw was a frightened kid that I KNEW was about to get hit with something that I was sure would drown him. But so far? Little bugger's still got his head above water and paddling as fast as he can. But he took hold of my heartstrings that day and he has yet to let go.
I remember as my friend and I were driving away from San Diego that day, the thought came into my head...
'Edward might be the lion, but that little one I've just walked away from?...
He's the lamb.'
Notice that Rob and Tay are close to the same height in the face off with each other and Bella in the middle. But when Charlie intervenes you can tell more of a difference in their height - wierd!!
I guess we can thank Richard and Clair Pattinson for bringing up Rob so well. Hopefully his family and friends will keep him grounded.
@Kerri and evangeline, agree...do not care for Bella's protective ways of Jacob in this scene either...did not like Jacob in the book, and I see the way Summit has made his character more likable in the movies, at the expense of Edward...DO NOT LIKE IT!
@rpattzgirl, again agree...Edward's makeup was way off in NW, and only slightly better in Eclipse. Again, to me, CH had the better Edward makeup...
Now, any Robward I get to see is fine, as long as I can luxuriate in the "pretty!" ;-)
Yes, jmm4832, Rob's parents did a wonderful job raising him. He must have been a handful from about age 12 onwards if not earlier.
Is Jacob standing on the box again? I love angry Edward:)
Nik,
Solas was on the thread about Robert willing your friends, the second post about it, with, now, I think, 57 or 58 comments.
She was just there.
Frankly, I wondered why you hadn't returned there too.
Ack! *killing*
not 'willing'
And Nik...what's this about you staying low? Stop that talk! Stop it right now.
Everyone here has to get this message of yours and be reminded of it and I,for one, think it needs to be hammered into all our heads.
People have stopped realizing Robert is a human being with needs and what all this does is violate him terribly. I have to rethink saving that one zillionth photo I have if it is an intrusive pap shot. So continue.
And about your humour: Yeah, you can be hilarious. But, if it is at the cost of your own health--the insomnia, which, believe me, I share--it bothers me when people here egg you on.
We all love validation and I love an appreciative audience too, but just because you're funny when wasted and sleep-deprived--it is an interesting state of consciousness, I agree--doesn't mean you should continue. I hope what I'm saying makes sense and doesn't insult you, because, just as we love Rob and want him to stay safe, so do I want that for you.
Besides, you're funny anytime.
I'll copy this also onto another thread;
it's a bitch 'communicating' this way, ain't it. Luv ya. xo
I'm sorry... This is just wrong. I do NOT like how they played this scene. It is SO far off from the book!
Edward looks desperate and jealous here, which makes him look as WEAK as Jacob.
From Eclipse, Ch. 15:
"Edward spoke in a voice so peaceful and gentle that it made the words strangely more threatening. 'I'm not going to kill you now because that would upset Bella.'
'Hmph,' I grumbled.
Edward turned slightly to throw me a quick smile. His face was still calm. 'It would bother you in the morning.' he said, brushing a finger across my cheek.
But if you ever bring her back damaged again - and I don't care whose fault it is; I don't care is she merely trips, or if a meteor falls out of the sky and hits her head - if you return her to me in less than the perfect condition that I left her in, you will be running with three legs. Do you understand that, mongrel?"
Now, THAT is Edward!
In the book Bella is the one who is spewing angry threats at Jacob.
Control is one of the things that made Edward look strong... so WHY did they let/direct Rob to act pissy here?! This seems so cliche.
yeah, I a agree. A bit of overacting here probably due to poor directing. Don't get me wrong, fierceward is hawt but in the book Edward never really shouted or lost his cool. Plus, it's hard to look threatening with those red, pouty, perfectly painted lips.
Oh how I miss Twilight.
Sigh
I think Rob still looks beautiful, but his hair is kind of flat. His makeup is too pasty white. His beautiful bone structure is still visible, thankfully. Only Rob could get away with still looking gorgeous with all this crap on his face!
come on now! even when he's angry he still looks so HOT..even hotter! Gaaah! arent we supposed to be scared???
I agree with jessegirl. Nik, don't lay low. I love reading your posts.
@captivated2, you are so right. I will get killed for this but... I admired SM at what she had done with these story, but, I do not admired her for what she let Melissa Rosenburg/Summit done to her characters. Especially Edward. Now, what I've read and saw of Eclipse... they took a few minute of indisiveness and Bella's part and make it into possible a two hour freaking love triangle melodrama...I've read Eclipse and the Edward that was in that book is nowhere in this movie. I will see the movie... Robert in movies is worth both the price and the viewing and as a fan of his I will see them...but, from what I've seen so far... then we will get to the part where Bella jump on a bike and ride off with Jacob at school with everyone looking and humilate Edward... I am sure when I see the movie I will wonder why Edward bother and after she comes home... will he be the one waiting like a little puppy dog for her or what... How will they play that scene.
Maybe it will be different when view all together, but I am diffinately not likin how they portrait Bella and her treatment of Edward in this movie... "Sigh"
I was so lokking forward to the movie too. with each spoiler I an not enjoying this.
**Nicola6, don't you dare stay away, I enjoy yours posts too much.**
It's hard to think that we have to wait another five weeks to see the film, and I'm thinking that I don't want to see any more of these tidbits because I don't want to spoil the emotional effect these movies have for me. It is almost impossible though...I hold out for a day or so, but then my obsession for all things RP takes over.
**Nicola6 > your comments are always insightful and interesting & as someone new to this site, I'm dying to know the entire story of your encounter with Rob back before he went SuperNova.
I for one am more than happy to stay away from all the Papz sites if it means it would discourage them. We are lucky to have this site to go to every day with PLENTY of good stuff to satisfy our yearnings...Thank you!!
Monique - I totally agree about Summit/Melissa Rosenburg. WHY did they change directors but not screenwriters? She has done a lousy job of adapting the books IMO, and I can't believe SM has let her mangle some of the best parts, again and apparently AGAIN.
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