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71 comments:
love it!!
here we go!!! ??? god the scene must be very steamy LOL
OT...
Kat? Or Kate or Goz?
Have any of you heard if Rob and Kristen are still in London? Reason I ask is, Heathrow airport is closed (nothing coming in. nothing going out) because of the volcanic ash covering the skies of western Europe. Said this is the biggest cataustrophic shut down of Heathrow in it's history. ABC News reported that Heathrow has no idea when they'll be back open for business. And since they've got Eclipse reshoots (to make an opening in just a little over 2 months) AND he's got to start filming again in a little over a month (with about that much of pre-production needed to get ready), I was just wondering if there's been any 'buzz' about this.
I wrote some more about this on the other thread. The third one down from the top. Oh hell. I can't remember name of threads. I can hardly remember my own name.
Anyway. That thread is dying and I figured you wouldn't have seen my query there, so I posed it here.
Okay. Where I was talking about Heathrow was on the 'sparkly picture' thread. Near the bottom.
Nikola...stop being so anal dear. You asked your question here and that's enough.
(and stop talking to yourself in that condescending school marm voice...it's weird)
I'll bet I know why you can't remember your own name, Nik...
(He's Rob F*ING Pattinson)
Just catching up with the situation in EU with the volcanic ash. Sounds more catastrophic than I thought. I really need to pay attention to the news. I'm thinking R&K are in no big hurry to get out of London, but he does have a schedule. There's still time to get back for pre-production I would think. If they can't get out, only more down time before they have to endure the LA Pappz craziness. I'm truly dreading what they might be up against, I fear it's going to get ugly. I'm so stoked that Rob got WFE, but wish it was filming somewhere, anywhere else.
OME! That engagement scene is gonna kill me. Love KStew's comment. Obvs, Bella + Edward = Duh! Can't wait for Eclipse!
Ok, I am out of the circuit apparently, please don't beat me up too badly...
but is WFE an official thing?? Is Rob officially in it for absolute sure?? If so, I am going to crap twice and die, because Rob as Jacob makes me squirm and squeal. WHeeee!
WFE is confirmed, starts shooting at the end of may
Yes, Sarah, you're dead. He actually is doing it! A major acting milestone for him. How great is that?
I deserve to have my azz kicked for not knowing that.
But that aside, WOO HOO!!! I may just pee my pants over this one....
"wow, here we go" OMG how lucky can one bitch be............London, Budapest, Vancouver, Los Angeles.................!!
nikola - I'm going to guess they're still there. Earlier I thought about the consequence of the shoots if they didn't make it out before everything shut down. But they very well could have - they've become pretty good at sneaking in and out of places unnoticed :-) Only time will tell - I'll update if we hear more.
nik. thanks for bringing it up. Kat thanks for the answer..
CL IKR Can't wait for Eclipse.. and LA!!
I love how this says Bella knows what she wants and it's Edward..... Not like the way it's being marketed " it's about choice"
There's no choice! She knows who her heart belongs to!!!
SluttyPattz!! I saw the TShirt!!! It's aweseome!!!!
OK, I'm going to get snarky here.
Rob's RM movie did so well, Kristen's Runaways did terrible, but to give her credit, Rob had a lot more theaters than she did.
I hated the Joann Jett era... Liked classic Rock. Not liking Rap now. It is NOT music, it is words.....
Can't wait for Eclipse or RM DVD... looking forward to both in June....
FILTM still, I'm so melted by him.
Nik love you & Sarah both almost had me peeing my pants at work today...even though I couldn't partcipate you two made my day!!!!
Because he's Robert Fucking Pattinson...
can't for Eclipse--like CL said--no choice--she knew
Thank you Kat.
If they're grounded then I'm not worried because they're safe. As long as they don't try to 'chance' it. The problem is that, that thick cloud of smoke is up at the altitude level that jets fly in AND the glass particles in the smoke gets into the engines and freezes them causing the engines to shut down in flight. Very dangerous.
Note to R&K...
Don't you two go taking chances trying to get back to America to make some friggin' movies. The friggin' movies can wait. You two stay put until the FAA gives the OK? Okay? Okay.
But if they are stuck there for even a week or two past what they had planned, it could very well effect WFE. Why?
He's got to do the re-shoots for BD first and even if it's just for three days or so, if he's behind schedule to begin with, then he's gonna have to play catch up.
AND he's got a lot of pre-production for WFE...
* needs to spend LOTS of time with those critters in order to be comfortable with them (and them with him) in front of a camera.
* needs to spend some quality time in that makeup chair so they can figure out old Jacob's 'look.'
* needs to visit elder care facilities in order to observe old people.
* and then just general prep...
costume fittings, script run throughs, rehersals, blocking scenes.
You don't just walk onto a set the first day and start shooting. It takes a little time to get there, especially with a production such as this one. This is a BIG movie.
And really, if he is stuck there for another week or so, they might have to delay the start of the picture.
Too bad. You two monkeys stay put.
@Nik- last I heard they are casting an old Jacob, not doing the make-up thing
llalieb...
I would imagine that most of this is going to shoot on a soundstage. Certainly the scenes in the big top and all of the interiors, including the interior of that train. And I'm thinking they might just shoot it in Downey, CA. There's a studio there that has the biggest indoor soundstage in the world and the studios use it all the time. It's about 10-15 minites from where I live.
But yeah, there will alot of exteriors too...
the grounds around that big top and that train and the boardwalk. I've heard they're filming somewhere up in central/northern California. So, I seriously doubt he'll be doing any location shooting in Los Angeles. Just a guess.
But yeah. The papps will be lying in wait for them. Although...have you noticed since they finished shooting NM last spring, that they aren't papped much when they're here in LA. No one saw hide nor hair of them the weekend of Comic Con (I figured they were holed up somewhere making up for lost time 'caused they'd just endured a 7 week seperation). And yeah, they were papped in early August before they headed back to Vancouver for Eclipse, but I always thought that was them being 'rebellious.' And the time between Thanksgiving and Christmas that he was here (a whole month) and the papps didn't catch them once. I've also noticed that when they are assumed to be together, that you don't see him out clubbing and pubbing. You see only see out like that (with his mates) when it's assumed that they're apart. I just think that when they're together...they stay in.
Oh yeah. I never did explain why I think Summit is involved in this thing. And I'm pretty sure they are. But not in the way that everyone thinks. Most of the fans have gotten it COMPLETELY WRONG. It's just that I don't know where to work this into a conversation. Let me just say this...
Most seem to think that Summit is milking this relationship for the publicity. WRONG! It's Summit that wants it under wraps (and R&K being the private people that they are and seeing their privacy taken from them, are more than happy to go along). Who do you think hired that barracuda of a publicist during NM promotion? It wasn't Rob Pattinson (and it was him she stuck to like glue, not Kristen and there was a reason for that) AND there's a VERY valid reason why Summit 'worries' about this relationship. And keep one thing in mind...Summit is only concerned with one thing...the financial health of this franchise. That's it.
I'll try to fit this in somewhere around here. It would just be nice to explain it and maybe then, shut some of the 'conspiracy' idiots up. It's not a conspiracy. It's about business.
Hey RPG...
Wish you could have played with us today. I don't know what happened. But it sure was funny. I think that's when things are the funniest...when they just happen.
And Janna...
Yeah. I've heard a couple of times that he isn't playing old Jacob, but it's never 'official.' Just someone saying that's what they heard. Where? Where is this being heard? But if it's true, I will be very disappointed. It just won't be the same film or opportunity for Rob that I have envisioned. I've always held that if he could pull off playing a character that they had to age him 70 years for, THAT could get him his first Oscar nomination. But without it? Probably not.
I'm still looking forward to the film though as I adore that book. And let's face it, I'll show up and pay to watch him pick lint out of his navel. Hell, I'll show up and pay to watch him pick a booger out of his nose. And that's because...
HE'S ROB FUCKING PATTINSON
Just had to say it one more time.
@nik- here's where I heard/read about old jacob- sorry it took so long I have way too many bookmarks
http://filmwaterforelephants.wordpress.com/water-for-elephants-the-film/your-choice-for-93-year-old-jacob/
if anyone had to kiss another person after having had kissed rob... of course the next guy would feel wrong cuz it is wrong to stoop lower than rob. she's spoilt for choice. can't blame her.
Thank you so much Janna, and yeah, that was pretty dad gum official.
Damn...damn, damn, damn.
Why aren't they letting Rob tackle this? God. This is the sort of thing an actor lives for. They dream about this stuff. Maybe they thought it would be seen as some sort of stunt. Or that if the audience knew it was the 24 year old Pattinson, it would pull them out of the movie and the character. Oh well.
Christoper Plummer would have been perfect, but they're saying he's unavailable this summer.
Peter O'Toole? One of my three favorite actors to come out of England during my lifetime. The other two being, Ralph Fiennes and Robert Pattinson. But, I wouldn't cast him as an older version of Rob. The look isn't right.
Terrence Stamp...yeah, this might work. He's in his 70's and so aging him to his 90's will be a breeze. He's english, still very handsome (he was bee-u-tee-ful in his youth) and a terrific actor.
Still. I am so disappointed. I know that Rob could have pulled this off. Well, at least his pre-production will not be as hectic. Now he mostly just has to go play with animals. Jealous.
Oh. And Michael Caine. Absolutely adore Michael Caine. So make that, FOUR favorites actors to come out of England.
Hey. I just thought of something. I know. Nobody is here listening, but when has that ever stopped me before?
What if...
What if Rob really is going to play old Jacob and they're just throwing out this red herring saying that he's not and that they're going with an older actor? This way, the audience will not be expecting to see Rob as a 93 year old man and then when they do...it'll blow 'em way. Yanno. Pull the old switcheroonie and surprise the audience? Nah. It's too audacious an idea to even entertain. No studio would have the balls. And no way could they keep it under wraps.
But wouldn't it be rich if they could? That in this day and age of the internet and twaddle and leaked scripts and papp photos and camera videos and dozens of trailers and everybody and their aunt suzie with a keyboard spouting off with their pre-conceived, uninformed opinions and judgements...that a movie could still surprise an audience?
Actually, they just did. With a little film called Remember Me *face palm* and as I recall, they were pissed to high heaven that the film did surprise them.
Nope. Don't be trying to surprise no movie audience. They take it personally and think that the movie is trying to make 'em feel stupid.
Well...If the shoe fits. And oh my good lawdy, miss maudie...Does that shoe fit?
nikola6 are you still here? I'm just curious about your idea of summit wanting their control over the "R@K situation".
You think it's because they are afraid if the R@K relationship is going wrong and then it affects the whole franchise in bad way?
Rob can certainly do SOME of the prep for WFE in England. And he needs a rest anyway. Maybe this is G-d's way of forcing himself to stay put a bit, downtime with loved ones.
This picture is awesome! I am so excited for Eclipse.
Water for Elephants: I am really excited to see this movie. Rob is really picking some good movies to star in. I am not very excited that it will be filming in CA. The combination of filming in CA with Reese Witherspoon will certainly draw the papz ( the scum at the bottom of the city sewer system) out in droves like rabid rats.
Heathrow: Wow! How cool and bizarre is it that a volcanic cloud is causing such Havoc! Mother nature is indeed amazing.
I am glad that Rob and Kristen are safe together in London. I wish they could film there for Rob's sake.
Please excuse my typos, struggling.
ohhhh cant wait for eclipse but I should told to my ass that have to do it anyway more Rob and Robward its gonna be awesome
@ nikola6
UK travel update!
It's not just Heathrow, every airport in the UK is closed, we are locked in! If they could get over to the continent then they could fly but today trying to get on Eurostar (train to Paris) is virtually impossible. Ferries to France and Spain similar situation. My husband is stuck in Geneva and can't get back. Airports are closed until further review tomorrow morning.
So, unless they are very resourceful I'd guess they are still here. Locked in with the rest of us :)
QM2 leaves Southampton for New York -4/22.
This afternoon, news reported that more than 17000 flies have been cancelled because of the great cloud of volcanic ashes covering the skies of western Europe, here in Spain, Barajas airport was utterly collapsed, and authorities in UK, have delayed flights 6 hours more. It´s actually something cataustrophic. So if they both werte still in London, you can say, that they´ll be trapped for nearly one or two days more.
sorryyyyyyy I meant flights not flies, my english is not quite good, and I know this is a "very gross" mistake, I apologize all of you.
Not a ship person myself, but if they MUST get back to the states, a cruise might be nice for them! Calming and away from papz for a while.
I just read that Cork and Dublin airports are open now; if so, Rob and Kristen can ferry across the sea and fly out of Dublin--and then they might actually finally get to see our fair city! :-)
Okay. I'm going to answer the question about Summit and their involvement with R&K's relationship because I brought it up and I'm getting lot's of e-mails about it and some questions about it here. And I guess I'll just have to -in a more current thread- direct you all here and if you want, we can have a pie fight over it. And this may have to be two posts because the blog does not allow for a 10,000 worded post (what's up with that? kidding). And just so you know, some of this is based on fact and some of it is based on some very educated guesses and I ain't gonna tell ya which is which. As I've said before, I grew up in this town and I still know a few people and no, I will never even hint at who those people might be. And no, I don't know Rob. Only met him once and that was before the shit hit the fan.
First. To 'all that jizz'...(that is a naughty name. I kinda like it)
You're very close.
To Nancy...
Not close. They aren't married. And if they were, they would have had to do it in such a remote spot that the news organizations of the world, would not know that, that spot exists. When couples marry, the marriage has to be registered in order for it to be legal and if some clerk saw their names on a marriage license, they'd be on their twaddle so fast our heads would spin. Not married. But you're right about this...being married doesn't affect box office as there are many, many movie stars who are and their box office is quite healthy. But that's not the situation here...
Oh dear god. Where do I begin? (and I seriously don't even know why I'm bothering because this is most likely going to end up in a fist fight. Because some will simply not believe)...
Why would a studio care if their leading man and leading lady are sleeping together? They don't. Leading men and leading ladies have been sleeping together since the inception of the movie business back in the silent era. Studios care about one thing and one thing only...that their movies make money. That's it.
And what do we have here with Twilight, in terms of it's audience? We have an enthusiastic, over the top, out of control, rabid, psychotic, obsessed, delusional fan base that has access to something called the internet in which they can send the 'white noise' of their thinking, their feelings and their opinons out into the world. And unfortunately, once something sees print, it takes on a legitimacy. So...
This studio is very aware of this fan base and they know that a very vocal part of them hate Kristen Stewart and why would that be? I know, some just don't like her and they swear up and down that it has nothing to do with Robert Pattinson. But does anyone really believe that? Summit doesn't. If she weren't with Rob, if she was still with Michael Angarano (sp?), would she be getting the hated that is spewed at her? (I mean, who would really care?) Oh. She might get some. But this much? And let's face it, there is more 'talk' about Rob and Kristen than there is ANY OTHER aspect of this phenomenon. Based on just this one blog here, I would venture that 75%
of all internet conversations, eventually turn to the two of them.
Next post.
Nik, I agree with your post. Rob has got to have the most obsessed, delusional and psychotic fan base out there. Do you think it's mostly the younger fans who are the worst offenders? Do you think Rob appreciates what Kristen's had to go through in order to be with him? Is the Robsessed phenomenon (sp?) going to wane after the last Twilight movie comes out so Rob can live at least somewhat of a normal life?
So...
Remember back during the filming of NM (when R&K finally got together after a year and a half of foreplay), Ted Casablancas said in his column that Summit got Rob's people and Kristen's people together for a sit down to map out a strategy. That was true. And let me just veer off for a minute here...
Yeah, Ted is milking this Twilight thing for all he can get, but for the most part, he's just 'playing' with his readers. Let me tell you something about Ted C. He's been in this business a long time (he ain't no internet upstart like Lainey or Perez Hilton). He's got sources all over this town that run VERY DEEP. And for the most part, he is fair. He hates hypocracy (and there's so much of it here in Hollywood, that it's gut churning) and he'll call someone out because of it. And Ted was/is pissed at Summit because he thinks they haven't got any right telling these two young people what they can and cannot do in their private lives. And he's right. They don't. But...
When R&K signed that first contract for Twilight (and for two subsequent sequels...BD had not even been published yet and so they did not sign for that one), there was a promotional clause in that contract. Basically stating that they would go out and sell these films to the public and that they wouldn't do anything in their personal lives, that Summit thought could hurt ticket sales. If so, they could be sued or replaced. And why would Summit think that a love affair between R&K could hurt the franchise?
1) The feelings of the fanbase about him, about her, or...about him and her. Although at the time of the signing of those contracts, no one knew what this fanbase was going to become. But they sure as hell know what it is now and they knew what it was in the spring of 2009 when these two began their affair.
2) This fanbase has touched a chord with alot of the ticket buyers; some don't want them together, some are hoping that they're a real life Edward & Bella and Summit is trying to straddle these two fences and not alienate anyone and in the process, lose even ONE ticket sale.
3) But there real worry is (AND THIS IS THE BIGGIE) that, as young as they are and Hollywood romances being what they are (they pass each other around like a bottle of brew at a kegger), their fear is that these two go public. They pose for the cover of People magazine or they go on Oprah and declare to the world...'oh, were so in love.' And then...they break up. And it's a nasty breakup. She's caught cheating with her next leading man and breaks Rob's heart OR he's caught in the sack with the Olsen twins, two porn stars and a tatooed stripper and breaks her heart. SCANDAL! OUTRAGE! The internet and the tabs go wild! The debate rages on; she's a slut or he's a pig. And could any of that hurt ticket tales? Summit doesn't want to take the chance.
So...they've been ASKED, not ORDERED to keep it under wraps. And R&K have been more than happy to comply because they've had enough of their privacy taken from them as is. Although they did have that little moment of 'rebellion' last August when they checked into the Chateau and went out to the Pallihouse -both places, papp central- and were 'caught' together, coupled with that public kanoodling at the KOL concert the next week in Vancouver. But if you will recall, after that concert...BAM! We didn't see them again. They were told to behave. And I really do think it was a bit of rebellion on their parts because they're young and they'd just gotten back together after a nearly two month seperation. But they're pros. They've signed a contract and they behaved themselves. And they still are...
Shit. Another post. But this should do it.
Now some have asked, why keep it up especially if the cat is now pretty much out of the bag? It's a good question. Here's why...
Because they're not through selling this franchise and they're not gonna be for at least another two years. So...the subterfuge continues. They don't confirm but they don't lie either as so many have accused them of. They haven't. Since last spring they have not denied a romantic relationship. They've just said...'no comment.' That is not a lie. It's just not a confirm.
And I suppose the debate can go on about whether they're really together and some won't accept it until they see 'evidence.' Well. You may be waiting awhile. Even once they're free of this contract and if they're still together, don't be expecting any public declarations of love from these two from the cover of People magazine or on Oprah's couch. They've got more dignity than that.
But forget all the clandestine 'spottings' of these two. Just ask yourself this one question...
Throughout the filming and promotion of the first film (during 2008), when they were asked this question, the reply was always...'were just friends.' But after the filming of NM and the subsequent year that followed bringing us to today, when asked that question, the answer changed to...'no comment.' Why? If their relationship did not change, why did their answer? Why not continue saying...'no, were just friends?' Why stir all of this up if there is no relationship?
Because Summit has cooked it up to sell tickets? No. I just explained why Summit wants to keep it quiet. They fear that it could hurt ticket sales. Oh. And remember that baracuda of a publicist during NM promotion? She was Summit's girl and they glued her to Rob because he's a bit more open and talkitive that Kristen. Did anyone see that publicist anywhere during the promotion of Twilight? Nope. Because there was nothing to protect or keep quiet about then.
Okay. I think that's it.
One. Two. Three. Go. Fight.
Nik, I certainly agree that Summit has a vested interested in this couple and I will reference another vampire/human couple over on HBO, who hooked up from the gitgo, but kept it secret fearing the effect it would have on the production of the show. Quoting,"wanted to make sure it wasn't some fickled thing" and then spend the next 7 years having to work together. Even after they finally were secure enough to reveal to the creator/producer, he was like "oh shit." So far all is well. So I can appreciate that Summit is nervous, if this doesn't work out, the ramifications it will have on their precious franchise. However, I don't totally agree with them being concerned because fans purportedly don't like Kristen. I think the Twihards love Kristen because she's their Bella afterall and they can live vicariously through her, and thus, are delirious that she might actually be WITH Edward in RL. Who do you think comprises the shipper population on the internet? If I'm right (up for discussion), then it goes back to Summit wanting them to be together and creating or manipulating PR to keep them front and center as a couple. But, wait for it...I absolutely do not believe for a second that's what they're doing. R&K would have a shit fit at the mere suggestion. No way are they puppets, and they have some power where this franchise is concerned.
The problem I have is with the Kristen haters. Yuh, I'm sure there are Twihards who fantasize about being with "Robward" and are immature and jealous if he's with K. But I still don't get it and is it really that widespread? My opinion about K. is not relevant, just to say I cut her a lot of slack because of her age, unimaginable situation and unwanted attention, and the fact that she IS Rob's BFF at the least. So, yes, Summit has interest in these two and what they're doing in their personal lives, for obvious reasons, it's all about the Benjamins! But that would extend to ANY behavior that they might engage in that gets pappzed and goes straight to the internet... i.e. whoring around, smoking dope, insulting the media, etc. Summit should feel lucky they are keeping on the DL, smoking doobies is a possibility though ;)
Nik, commented before the rest of yours were up. Hope I don't have to back track. I'm reading the rest of yours now.
oh nikola thank you!
finally I've got your reply) u know, being in other time zone (04:20am) it was hard to wait but it's worth to (i guess lol)
btw I decided to change my name here (maybe old "jizz" too "naughty";)
as for subject...
I guess I've got it, but I'd like to clarify one thing -
you said they signed that first contract with certain PR duties and than they've been ASKED, not ORDERED to keep all "theirs" under wraps in order to protect franchise. but why ASKED and not ORDERED if it was already in their contracts?
thanks for your patience in advance since I know nothing about how Hoolywood works (but I want to figure it out a bit) and english is not my mother language :)
Nik, I can't disagree. If there was indeed that signed contractual agreement then they are not ONLY keeping it private for themselves, but honoring the contract, which like you said suits them just fine. I wish them luck in maneuvering through all this and peace. Privacy too, but that's going to be a bitch.
Few last thoughts...
I know that someone has posted here saying that they had a friend who worked on the crew of these films and that person said...no, there is no romance. And you would figure that a crew member would know. And yeah, they ususally do. But because of the technology and the way that things are leaked these days, a film set is no longer a 'closed' environment. And so, even to the crew and to anyone who wasn't 'very close' to them, this was kept 'quiet.' Also...the cast and crew may have been asked to sign NDA's. Summit wants this quiet. They can't silent it completely because they cannot lock Rob and Kristen in an ivory tower until these films are through. And if they could...they would. So...
They duck and dodge and when asked...they keep their traps shut with a 'no comment.'
I'm so glad some of you are finding you're way over here. It's just that I've gotten about 20 e-mails about this and I just couldn't write out 20 of them and I don't know how to do a group one. So, I thought I'd just do it here. Maybe you could post on the more current threads that I've written this out here so that those who wanted to know my thoughts, can find them. I'm gonna do it to. Thanks.
@WhyRobert...
They weren't ordered in that they were strapped to chairs and beaten into submission. They were asked or rather, gently reminded about the contracts they'd signed. Just a nudge, a little scolding. And remember to, Summit couldn't be too hard ass with them. They hadn't nailed down their Breaking Dawn contracts yet. And Summit knows, if they lose these two, there is no Breaking Dawn. They cannot be replaced and the franchise would come to a screeching halt and end with Eclipse. And that would cost Summit somewhere in the neighborhood close to 2 billion dollars.
They cannot strong arm these two, but they can 'strongly suggest.'
Nik, assuming BD is filmed before the end of 2010 and comes out in summer of 2011, wouldn't R and K be free of Summit after that? In your post you said at least 2 years.
Personally if I was a celebrity I would want to keep my love life as private as possible and not go on Oprah, etc. Who knows if a relationship might end? There are no guarantees in life.
Nik, re. cast and crew. Some time ago somewhere else (prior to only coming here), I got an interesting response from a guy in Vancouver, fearing for his job, saying they were together but that it was very new. His comment was brief, and he was apologizing to me for his previous comment about sounding like he had been in a room with them. The way it was worded, sounded very sincere and credible. I get confused about the timeline, but his comment was the first which made me question that maybe something was going on. So I never really believed the person here who has an insider friend who said absolutely not.
@jmm4832...
I don't know who the fringe elements of this fandom are; the kids, the housewives, the TWImoms, who knows? But they're there. They pop up here all the time and I'm guessing if people come here and respond to my posts, they're gonna show up again.
As to whether or not I think this is all going to go away? Yeah. Pretty much. Nothing and no one stays this hot forever. Society's attentions spans aren't long enough to keep the white hot heat of the spotlight on someone for too long. But there is another element here...
This phenomenon is not just one film, like say Julia Roberts in Pretty Woman or Leonardo DiCaprio in Titanic. The frenzy around them cooled off after about a year or so. But from start (Nov. 2008) to finish (most likely May/June of 2012), this franchise will have lasted about three and a half years. And yeah, we've had other film franchises; LOTR, Pirates, Harry Potter, Spiderman, X-Men, etc. But none of those franchises produced a star who has generated the kind of insanity that Rob Pattinson has. Also, those other franchises were spread out, not releasing films right on top of one another. Think about it. Were going to get three Twilight films in about 18 months. That is UNHEARD OF. But it just keeps it all fresh with the tabs and the net and the fans. There hasn't been a cooling off period for this. Which brings us to Breaking Dawn...
There's gonna be a cooling off period because after Eclipse, because were not gonna get the next installment for at least a year and a half. Now the celebrity press is not going to turn away from R&K because they're still news and they still want that 'money' shot confirming their relationship. But hopefully with the Twilight phenom quieted down for a spell, the frenzy around them won't be as much. After Twilight?
If they remain together and remain unmarried, then yeah, they will still be a focus of papps, tabs and internet 'noise.' If they should marry? That is usually the 'kiss of death' for celebrity interest. At least at this level. They can't sell us married sex as it's seen as boring. My advice to them if they're still together when all of this Twilight hysteria ends? GET MARRIED! If they want to remain together and get a semblence of their lives back...that is the answer.
Gotta step away for a bit. But I'm through answering your post.
Nik, thanks)
it really does make sense to me.
Sorry. I meant NOT through answering your post.
God. That sounded so rude. I'm so sorry.
Okay. Now I'm confused (there's a bulletin). Are jmm4832 and WhyRobert the same person? Well. Whoever I'm talking to, I was asked about how I think Rob feels about what has happened to Kristen because of her involvement with him.
Well. I don't talk to Rob, so I can't really say, But I can't imagine that he is happy with the way that she is spoken about by some the fans. I mean, would you or I like to hear such shit about the person we love? No, we wouldn't. And does he harbor some guilt about this? Again, I don't know. But if I were him, I would. I would take it all on myself and lamment...'if this person weren't with me, they wouldn't be going through all of this.'
Which poses the question...
Why is she putting herself through all of this? Do you think if she were still with Michael or some other low key guy, that her life would be the frenzy that it is now? Would the papps be chasing her all over the world trying to get her picture? Would the tabs be printing lie after lie about her life? Oh, she'd get some attention, but THIS??? So why would she put up with it? The publicity? Kristen Stewart seeking MORE publicity? Right. I cannot speak for her, but for myself, I would have to love someone a helluva lot to put myself through this. My happiness would literally have to depend on being with that person. But that's me.
And for those who say that this is just 'bennies' or the occasional booty call...
Again, who would put themselves through this for just a hookup? Unless I suppose he really is the god of sex. I mean, is leaving your family, friends and home on your 20th birthday to fly half way around the world to be with some guy, sound like a 'hookup' to you?
And if even if it is just sex, really good sex, again, would she put herself through all of this, for that? No. If this was just sex, they would have banged each other for awhile and then moved on and then maybe get together occasionally if they bump into each other. I don't think they just bumped into each other in Budapest. Just a guess.
Anyway. Did I answer your questions? I don't even know who I'm talking to or what I'm saying anymore. Probably a good sign to shut the hell up.
Nik, exactly. Try convincing Colleen. Are you ignoring me because nothing I have said needs responding to?
Nik....
Totally agree with you on every single point.....people still won't believe, and that's ok,as long as their not rude, mud slinging assholes about it...disagree all ya want...it don't change a thing...
And although I never personally saw Rob & Kristen while I was in Vancouver, because my asshole friends made me miss them when they were across the street, I do know that they were always together, didn't hang out with the others when they were off. I met a friend of Jacksons, and she told me where most of the crew hung out, but said R&K were rarely with them all....
llalieb...
I just wanted to respond to your comment that you think Summit might not be that concerned whether or not the fans like or hate K. That it wouldn't figure into how they market this thing. Gotta disagree with you there hon.
There's something else going on here that the public really knows very little about. And that's FAN MAIL. Actual letters and packages that arrive at the studios and at the offices of R&K's agents and managers and publicists, etc. Why don't we know much about them? Because we don't have websites on the net where studios talk about fan mail and therefore, the public can't join in and discuss it. And lets face it, if something ain't on the net, it don't exist. **rolls her eyes** It's kept private. By law, mail has to be. Did you know that it's against the law to even open a letter that is not addressed to you? True. But I happen to know just a little bit about this...
They have both received threats, threats of harm and even death in some of these letters. Yes, Summit knows that there are nuts out there. And why would they try to communicate through fan mail rather than just come here to the internet and talk? Because the internet is not personal. We can hope that Rob might hop on and see what we say about him (well...maybe not. lol). But it is impersonal and the odds of him responding are astronomical. But fan mail is personal. You touch it with your own hands and you think there's a possibility that he might touch it with his. And maybe just maybe, that he might be so touched with your tale, that he might even respond. That is the hope of fan mail.
Remember those comments that Rob made way back when about 'getting stab' in a crowd? Or 'getting a syringe of AIDS' stuck in him? That shit came from fan mail. Real threats. When I first heard him say these things, I thought...'what strange SPECIFIC comments for him to make.' Then as he kept saying them, it hit me...'oh god, he's been threatened with this in fan mail.' And yes, I did confirm this with someone (and that's all I'm gonna say about that).
So yeah. Summit knows that there are nuts out there who hate these kids. And some make threats. And some do not. And while they certainly want to keep them safe, they also want to keep on selling movie tickets. And so...why parade this relationship of theirs around if there's the chance that it will provoke more nuts?
See my point?
Nik - no I'm not the same person as WhyRobert. Thanks for clarifying everything. I'm curious as to why it will take at least a year and a half for BD to come out. I have to admit part of me wants Rob to be finished with the Twilight saga soon because of the crazed obsession, but another part of me loves seeing pictures of him all the time. It's a Catch-22.
No llalieb...
I wasn't ignoring you. I'm just writing so much here and posting and trying to answer questions and trying to figure out if jmm4832 and WhyRobert are the same person and...and...
Anyway. Why did I start this? I wanna play...
BECAUSE HE'S ROB FUCKING PATTINSON
again. Oh yeah. Those 20 some odd e-mails. I went to the first three threads up at that top and told the blog that I answered this, but not too many have showed up. Either no ones here or they've decided they don't give a shit anymore. God. Who could blame 'em?
And now then...I have another question to answer. Lemme figure go figure out to who.
Oh. And hi RPG...
How ya doin' darlin'? Thank you for always being so supportive of me out here. I know that with my opinions and my penchant for shouting them out, I can be quite polarizing at times. But you've always got my back. Thanks.
Me too you.
Aawwwww Nik ur cute Darlin'..LMAO
Hey jmm4832...
Right. WhyRobert was jizz girl or something. Why'd she change it. It was cute. So, why do I think that they've got at least another two years of this insanity? Well, this is speculation on my part.
I figure if they're filming BD this fall starting as early as September and as late as November (I'm gonna guess October), and with this being two films that they've got to film, they're going to have longer shoot. Twilight took about 2 months. NM about 2 and 1/2 months. And Eclipse about 3 months. So...I'm figuring 4-4 and 1/2 months for BD. And with the holidays coming in the middle of the shoot, film productions usually shut down for 10 days to two weeks for Christmas and New Years (if they're shooting outside of America, they don't have to shut down for Thanksgiving because that is an American holiday). So...
If they start say October and they shoot for four months or so and they have to make up the two weeks they'll lose during the holidays, I'm guessing they'll wrap sometime in February of 2011. And that will not give them enough time for post production to get that thing in the theatres by May/Jun/orJuly, which would be just 3 to 6 months later. So, I think the first installment of BD will released in November of 2011 and the conclusion the following summer (May, June or July) of 2012. It is now April of 2010. This is where I got my 2 year time frame.
Now...The BD shoot could start sooner, they could wrap it sooner and could just possibly get the first part into the theatres next summer and the follow up, that fall and if so, then they'd be done about 6 months earlier (November of 2011) than what I have projected.
I don't know. But they've got at least another year and a half to two years left to deal with the marketing of this franchise.
I don't envy them.
Well I'm glad you're laughing Kember. Anyone who comes here and writes this much volume of shit, deserves to be laughed at. It's just that dammit...
I got all those e-mails and I couldn't be rude and ignore them and I couldn't write this out 20 fucking times, so...I thought this would the best way.
But shit. I gotta a headache now.
I need a beer.
I know..u're making me freakin dizzy..LOL..and u're picking up my accent..well typed one anyway..STOPIT~!!!
Can't wait for Eclipse!! It was my favorite book!! The scene really does look steamy!!
Yeah, Solas, down time.
Suppose he could learn lines too.
Nik... the shoe most definitely fits!
-But, as you know I'm not with you on Rob and old Jacob. Give him time, woman. He'll get that Oscar sometime. Plus let us have him young while he's young. Time enough for that rest.
I'd forgotten all about fan mail and the possibility of death threats. Yeah, no wonder he was so specific. I wondered too at the time. I want to put an invisible bubble around him--like Bella's protective trick. 'Course now his bubble is a dozen bodyguards, handlers, and who knows who else.
Oh yeah I love this EW pic but, after what LS wrote about RM, I want to boycott the stupid mag. Can't though, if they have a pic I want.
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