Here's your spoiler post for today please keep all "Remember Me" talk in this thread only so as not to spoil it for those who haven't seen it yet!
We will post a Spoiler Thread every day for a week or so.
Thanks and I hope everyone who saw the movie enjoyed it!
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I think this is the premiere for me posting a comment here...
Saw it yesterday and I was actually inpressed by Rob. I mean , I knew he was good, but he's so much more talented than I expected!
There were heartbreaking scenes that made me cry: Caroline getting her hair cut off by stupid bitches at party, Tyler fighting with his dad att the office (man, he's good!), Tyler on the floor after being almost strangled by Allys father. And of course the scene at the end when the camera goes out from the windows where Tyler is standing and you realize he's at WTC and it's that day.
But I really think the scene at the end by the grave was unneccessary - no need showing us the obvious, we know he died. It would have been enough (and better) with only the "non-prescence" of Tyler: Ally crying, seeing his friends Tyler-tattoo, and dad doing to the museum with Caroline.
But I loved it. It was 112 minutes of pure porn. And I forgot to eat my candy. That never happens.
I want to see it again!!!!
@Hi Annie! Love the teaser for your new upcoming video...
Have a nice week-end.
Take care
@Kate: thanks, and sorry you won't get to see it for a bit. At least there is a premiere in the UK soon....
I did a long-winded bit about the ending on the previous spoiler post so won't reiterate. Am just adding, on reflection, I am even at peace now with the idea that RM may not shake the b.o. because of the ending or whatever reason. Yes, that might be seen a dint in Rob's clout, but his status as actor and his presence on screen is undeniable. Given the roles and projects he seems attracted to, I think that will be more important in the long-run. I am really glad he has RM and Bel Ami, before WFE. That role will really take all he's got, and more.
@sissi,thanks.have a great weekend too :D
Sweden Sara---You just told all who have not seen the movie the ending. Shame on you.
@jane,this the spoiler post so everyone can talk about the movie.Thoes who hasn't seen the movie shouldn't read these posts!
@Jane: uh...this is a spoiler post. She can talk about the ending...
Hello Jane,
Hence the title "Spoiler Post" geez...
ITA Sweden, the scene where Chris strangles him is very compelling..you can see the fear in his face...and then the anger and emotions after wards...and then where he's just laying there on the floor, so emotional...got that part killed me...
The scene in Charles office where Tyler just lets him have it..is so compelling, and Rob just blew me away...right there, I was simply amazed by him...
The scene at the cemetery was very important because it showed how much time had passed..Caroline's hair had grown out, and the family was still gathering together...with Charles there...it was an important part of the film to show that Tyler's fingerprints were still on everyone...
Aiden's tattoo, Ally riding the subway...very powerful...
I've seen it twice, going again today 2 times, and tomorrow as well.
I can't stop thinking about that movie.
It absolutely tore my heart out. It made me remember 9/11. The falling ash, the desperate police officer the stunned, crying New York faces.. I think too many in this country have forgotten the horror of that day. This movie brings it all crashing back. How many people lost a friend, boyfriend, brother, or son that day? Just writing this I am about to cry again. It was shocking and the review I read from Newsweek put it best- "But if you think about it, wasn’t that the way we all felt after September 11? The attack was completely unexpected, just like the conclusion of this movie"
Now to get over the sadness.. can I talk about the wonderfulness that is Rob! I didn't think I culd love this guy any harder, but I was wrong. After watching his beautiful performance of Tyler.. just.. wow. He really was incredible and I say that in the most unbiased robsessed way.
Going into a rated PG-13 movie I was not expecting such hotness in the "lovin action".
But OMG.. it was enough to have me shifting rather conspicously in my theatre seat. And the noises? We all had fits over the little grunt in New Moon... but here.. whew!
I really loved this movie.. Alot. And honestly I forgot I had even seen the Eclipse trailer by the end of the movie. And that says al ot...
The movie was,for me, beyond description. Rob was suberb and entire cast delivered great perfomances! Will try to hit the theater again today. Rob had me the minute he came in from the firescape with the famous cigarette in his mouth. I was totally riveted on his face. He is everywhere in the movie. You cannot take your eyes off of him. Really, I'm trying to break this down in my head, but I loved every scene~~it's so hard. Tyler's family honor is so prominent. I loved that and his chemistry with Emilie was better than I thought. But Rob~~OMG, what a performance.
FILTM
I saw one goof in the movie..in the scene where Tyler barges in and he & Charles fight, Pierces jacket is unbuttoned, then it's buttoned...oops
In reply to some comments made on my last post in the other spoiler chat thread.
@Athena. regarding the boardroom scene where I said his acting was brilliant because he didn't overdo it and you felt that being the "hot blooded Itlain" that you are it needed more fire (lol I had to laugh at that cause I have that same Italian hot blood, sicilian actually so maybe even more escalated) yet I still felt it was a brilliant performance because he was so angry that it made him crazy in the head, you could actually see his mind losing it. You could see the rage in his eyes yet his body wasn't letting it come out. He had that type of rage that makes you stutter and stumble trying to get the words out and it left me in awe! utter utter awe!
It's been 4 days since I saw the movie and I still get that "punched in the gut" feeling when I think of it, I desperately want to go back and see it again, I have another group of friends I am dragging to it on Thursday. I plan on paying better attention this time, I feel I probably missed so much in moments where I was too caught up by his beauty to really pay attention to anything else.
sigh....
going again today--can't wait--see the things i missed the first time
I saw another goof too. Its went he and Aiden are walking down the street talking about SLUT and Robs cig is there and then not there and then its there again and he hasnt even lit it. I will look for the jacket thing today. :)
I already wrote a review at another thread here, so this is going to be short. Saw Remember Me with three friends last night and we all loved it. Blown away by Rob’s acting. Going to see it with my sister and cousin again tonight.
As a New Yorker and the happily ever after’ movie loving kind of gal that I am, I didn’t even mind the punch that I got at the end. The ending somehow fit. The four of us sat in the theater after the movie ended, and after wiping the tears from our faces, we talked about the movie for a good thirty minutes. All of us were moved. Well done Rob, well done. Bravo.
Okay so I saw it last night and at the time I thought, wow this is so intense and good and sad and hopeful all at the same time. Rob was better than amazing. He WAS Tyler. (I did at times find myself not hearing what they were saying due to me staring at him in awe.) He was beautiful to watch, not that that should surprise me, but it did somehow. (He can't be human. He is so captivating!)
The thing is, that it grows on me more and more each minute that passes. I had dreams about it. I woke up thinking about it. It is with me, sort of haunting me, but not in a bad way. I love it more and the characters more somehow.
As for the ending. I kind of knew it was coming. I wasn't spoiler free, but it still punched me in the gut!
That day was a shot through the heart of NY and our country, but we showed that we can pick ourselves up and come back stronger than ever. I think that's what they captured at the end with Ally's look. She had been through so much and with her mom's tragedy she was still living in the past. When she got on the subway at the end she prove to herself that she could conquer that part of herself and be stronger for it. With Tyler's death on 9/11 she realized that life is too short to live in the past.
I love love loved it! Rob your are an amazing gift!
hi - loved the movie and Rob was AMAZING. The different emotions he portrayed were so different and all spectacular.
Just got back.
Whew. Where to start? I went in with butterflies in my stomach. Granted I am old enough to be Rob's mom and I did feel a bit of the emotion of waiting for my kids to preform a recital. I was nervous and scared and apprehensive and wondering what all the people in the theater would think. I was even a bit snarky with those dear friends who went with me out of nerves (I will apologize later.)
I thought it started a bit slow. I realize it was all set up. I won't put any spoilers in this, but the beginning as a mom with three girls made me cry.
I thought Aiden added the comic relief and because my son hangs out with obnoxious friends from time to time, I found him very "real". I liked him. He was a good counterpart for Tyler. Was a good moderator to a "thinking" Tyler.
Ally was darling. Loved her! Very natural look. Pretty, but not to the point of wanting to hate her, (you all know the type) Would kill for her body though. Dang!
Loved both dad's. Good men. Hard lives. Could see their points of view. Wanted to hate them but as a parent, I could not. Too real.
Caroline. Oh my goodness. Loved her. What an actress! She and Tyler's relationship was the shining gem for me in this story. So much tenderness and yet real brother/sister stuff. So many moments that made me just melt.
Tyler (oh my Rob, I am so proud)..........Anyone who says Rob cannot act was not watching the movie with their senses engaged. I never once, not once, thought of Edward. So many emotions displayed. So much intensity and acting range. I was more impressed than I thought I would be.
Thought the dialog was great! Clever. Rich. Smart. I liked it.
Ending: I knew what was coming, I had read the script a long time ago. I cried. I was moved. I did not feel exploited or used or whatever other word some stupid reviews used. I felt touched. I felt engaged in the scene.
The crowd was pretty subdued leaving. Not a great deal of dialog was heard. I think most were processing. On the way home, with the group I was with, we discussed it all. Only my 20 year old daughter knew my extent of Robness. So I think the rest were very unbiased. They needed to talk it through. No one said "I loved it!". But at the end, the general feel was very positive. Everyone internalized it differently. I think the time frame was very personal to all of us.
I can see why not everyone will love it. I can now see why viewers will either love it or hate it. It reveals powerful emotions. It evokes the inner feelings of us. Some people just hate to deal with those. My husband would not like it. He is not a great believer in delving into emotion or not having a happy ending. BUT, for the group I was with, we liked it. OK. I loved it! I am going again tomorrow and can't wait to pick up on the little stuff I missed.
Biggest impression on ROB......he is a subtle actor. For those who are used to big action, over the top heroics, he is not going to work for them. I love the layers of what he brings to a character. I felt like I knew Tyler. I knew him, I knew how he would feel in a situation. I felt his pain,his joy, his contentment.
Went on too long, but yikes. GOOD!
The scene where he calls his Dad to invite him to dinner...I didn't realize I was holding my breath until the call ended. His anger and emotions on that call were so real I was totally sucked in.
Saw the cigarette goof, but not the jacket. Will look next time I go. Again, superlatives to Rob on his portrayal of Tyler. Wow! And you do notice so much more at a second viewing. Riveted on Rob the entire movie. Very emotional still.
FILTM
I gave a "serious" review on the other spoiler thread but I completely left out the eye candy part. He's absolutely gorgeous. It's a total Rob-fest. I could watch him light those cigarettes forever. I loved the whole smoking theme thing, I'm not a smoker but sometimes I wish I was, it's so subversive now :-) You can tell when an actor is a real smoker, they look like they're really enjoying it. And when he falls in through the window in the very first scene! He's got great comedic timing, and he's a very physical actor. It must be frustrating for him to play Edward where he can't really use his body. Anyway he sure used it here, the sex scenes were just right I thought, not gratuitous (wouldn't have minded if they were though...) and were used to move the story forward. I'm looking forward to seeing it again.
I'm going to go see it today,, just to support Rob, because I HATE movies with rip-your-heart-out-endings. I know what's coming... I read the script the second someone implied it might be sad.
SO, my question is to all those who have seen it, if I want to walk out to avoid the heart fail - and that is the only way I'll go at all - when do I leave?
What is a good place to exit the movie and avoid the crappy tear-jerking epilogue?
@captivated: I think if you left anywhere in the last section of the movie, and were sitting in front of me - I'd thump ya! So no suggestions from me, and sit on the aisle near the door.
@RPG: Yeah, there were a few continuity errors scattered about, including that one. lol
Someone asked about the Modesty patch being necessary - somewhere - not..uh..Modesty Patch above but the actualy item...Definitely for the scene where they are having 'wake-up sex.'
@Cl07: if you see this - have I missed your review? I looked, but may have... :)
Should be 'actual' actually. Too tired.
@Jane: Wow, I really didn't expect to get my ass kicked for discussing the movie in a spoiler post - isn't that the purpose of these posts?
Anyway, I'm sorry if I ruined your experience with the movie, altough it's weird I feel like I have to apologize when I actually did nothing wrong.
The "Shame on me" part? I really don't think I deserved that. Your comment made me sad. Congratulations.
correct me if i am wrong this is a spoiler post right?..thought so..
I wrote this in the last spoiler post, but I am truly glad you have all seen this movie. It means a lot to Rob and I am glad we as fans got together to support his career. I hope a lot of people see this movie because Rob truly is a gifted actor this movie will make or break him when it comes to the longevity of his career. It is the first movie he has done post-twilight and I hope people take him more seriously as an actor. There were mixed reviews regarding the movie, but no one can deny that that boy is talented. Just try and see it as many times as possible.
Loved it! I had read parts of the script so I knew what happened at the end, yet I was surprised at how much it hit me. I wasn't expecting to get emotional. I cried like a baby. Rob gave a great performance, in fact all of the acting was spot on. Normally I'm not a fan of movies that don't have a happy ending but this one was so good. Not a formula Nicolas Sparks type of emotional manipulation. Remember Me seemed more honest.
@Karen
completely agree with the nicholas sparks comment. normally i dont like movies without a happy ending, but this one was as you said "honest". im so excited to see it again
This comment is going to really be on the fringes, but I liked the idea of Ally and Tyler making love before tragedy again hit them. That one connection offers a string of hope before the deluge.
I thought the relationship between his father's secretary, (Kate, Richard Burton's daughter) and Tyler was valid and so well done. Clearly another indication that Rob can switch gears and exhibit a plethora of emotions brilliantly.
What a gift Rob is.
@Barbara: thanks for reminding me about Kate as Janine. Nice subtlety from both actors, and though not a lot of screentime, you could see an established relationship. I'd really like to see Rob work with her again.
Damn, I saw the movie yesterday, & totally missed Aidan's tattoo. In fact, when they showed him I was wondering what they were trying to show. I didn't get he was doing anything different. Where was the tattoo? I can't believe I was that oblivious.
I plan on sitting on the aisle and leaving discreetly just BEFORE the audience realizes what's happening at the end.
In the script, Tyler is in his fathers office... Is there a scene I can watch for right before that? I'm just hoping for a clue from someone's who's seen it...
@BAR. I loved the idea too. I loved that he told her that he loved her and, I was holding my breath until she said I love you too because I knew what it was coming. That was they way it should be otherwise it would be more devastating.
@cap as soon as you see him holding his bike under the twins beat it.
I cried a lot of times during the movie though so keep this in mind.
Addena re modesty patch, and then I gotta run...forgot to say there were some naked shots fron behind, which are not in the final version, and that was why it was originally needed. Wonder where they are now? ;)
@Marna.. its after Tyler dies. Aiden is sitting in the classroom taking notes and you can see A TYL peaking out from his arm where his tshirt ends. I only thought to look for it myself because I read the script or else I probably would have missed it too
Thanks, I wasn't looking at his arm at all, I was trying to figure out if what he was writing was important. At least I know what to look for now.
Thanks Dina! Do you remember what happened just before that?
@Cap.He leaves his place and Alli askes him if he likes pancakes for breakfast then he rides his bike to the twins and calls his dad, then you have some good ten minutes until the end.
@Teri, I am so glad you brought up that phone call scene! I forgot to mention how genius he acted that. The pure frustration while he is being transferred was just spot on.
Remember the first spoiler post, which is now, I believer, on the third page in. There are about 170 interesting comments there, in addition to what people are saying here.
@cap, he calls his father to see where he is and he is picking up Caroline to take to school, he tells him that he will wait for him in his office. It's very obvious.
AP: I thought your post about the ending in the previoius spoiler post was very interesting.
Lots of buzz about the ending of course, about whether it was gratuitous or not.
I think it doesn't matter.
If we the viewers were not invested emotionally in Tyler's character by that point in the movie, then how he died is irrelevant. Personally, I was invested, because Rob did such a great job. That is the issue.
The fact that, when all was finally turning around with the people in his life, that that was the moment his life ended, that was the tragedy. The timing.
He could have been run over by a car running a red light on his way to the twin towers (which tower, I wonder?Can anyone tell by that last long shot?).
I think the point was that none of us know when death can happen to loved ones, whether young or old.
I suppose they did go for a bit of shock value. (I guessed when Tyler was waiting for the elevator for floor 87. If that was the floor of his Dad's office, he would have been at ground zero of the blast site, because the planes drove into the towers between floors 70 and 90. From that we know he wouldn't have had a chance in hell.
9/11 had a profound effect on me, as on all of you. But there's no reason for it not to be used in this fashion.
As I said, if we are not invested in Tyler, if we do not care, if we don't feel for him before he dies, it doesn't matter whether he dropped dead of arythmia, was run over, shot by a mugger, or was killed horrifically in one of the Twin Towers.
The point is, do we care about him before he dies, to the point of crying over his death? Everything else is irrelevant.
I LOVED IT!!!
saw it twice today...and would go again but the place is far from my home .. need to drive 40 km .. but it worths.
Love all actors... all were great.
@ Deb: I think we're very close about "hot blood", you and I, as my family comes from Sardinia (although I was born and grew up in Milan, hence the "tamed-ness") and like the rest of the Southerners, we tend to be... highly inflamable! Hahaha!
In the previous spoiler thread, I actually revised my opinion of the boardroom: I went to see the film again yesterday (Saturday) and I realised that Tyler's rage, although it started awkwardly (but I can relate to that, now, for the reasons you said) kept building up and building up, to the point where Tyler *did* try to go for Charles' throat, towards the end of the scene... which I found quite satisfactory!
Inexplicably, I missed it the first time, but now my "blood thirst" is officially quenched ;D!
@ captivated: I think you can safely go just after he's watched the pictures in the laptop in his father's office. There's an important realisation for Tyler, there, and I wouldn't want you to miss it.
jc: I loved where, coming in from the fire escape, he carefully finds a place for his ciggie, and then proceeds to fall in. Yeah, wonky Rob.
Just thought of something. At the beginning he comes in through the FIRE escape and at the end he will die and no fire escapes could save him. Bookends.
jarielyn: Eclipse trailer. Pffft..
Deb, Athena: Yeah, the boardroom blow-up scene. Man, Rob did that well and both of you commented well. The utter rage was phenomenal, as you say, stuttering, unable to control himself, 'his body wasn't letting it come out'.
modestypatch: I know what you mean about it growing on you. I mentioned it on the other spoiler thread, or somewhere--can't keep track so forgive me if I repeat--but I found myself thinking about it much later; it seeped into me and stuck there. It won't leave.
Whatever the reviewers say, that type of effect on viewers is success, no matter what else is said.
janecea: Yeah, it's about 'processing'. Thanks for sharing that stuff about how much your group was thinking about it afterwards. I think that'll happen a lot.
And yes, Rob is a subtle actor and brings layers to his character. That is obvious.
Those critics, some of them respected, who use the word 'brooding' to cover Rob's range, shame on you. Really look at him.
Teri: I agree about that phone call. I, too, was holding my breath. Rob can do tamped down rage really well. It was stunning.
cerulean: the smoking, the falling in through the window. Great. So many great spots. And I, too, posted a lot on the other spoiler, but I think I got one in on how absolutely drool-worthy Rob was through the entire movie. As I said there, thank you Allen Coulter, for understanding that Rob calls for many, many, many head shots and close-ups. Take that, CW.
jane: As many others have said, this is clearly marked as a 'spoiler post'.
SwedenSara: Don't feel bad. Spoil away. Probably just a misunderstanding.
Karen: You mentioned movie manipulation, Nicholas Sparks, etc. Yes. I wish people would realize how much manipulation the majority of movies contain, from action flicks, comedies, thrillers, and even good dramas. When reviewers level this criticism we should all take it with a grain...
Barbara and AP: Yes, Janine and Tyler's relationship was beautifully done by both actors, even though it was brief. There are a lot of little gems like this throughout the film.
I forgot to mention: I really, really liked the soundtrack: there was the happy, there was the carefree and there was the ominous. Loved it. I wonder if they are going to release it, since there are no songs, that I could make out, but the instrumental music is just beautifully simple, underlining the scenes perfectly without being invasive.
I just came home after watching the movie… I’m at a loss for words.. I will just say that I absolutely loved the movie and everything and everyone were amazing! I’m still shocked and I still can’t stop crying so I can’t think straight in order to tell more about it right now.
I just want to mention 3 things.
1)I have never cried that much while watching a movie and I had never felt the way I’m feeling right now.. I cry, then I’m ok for some minutes and then I suddenly start crying again. (I had read the script; I can’t even imagine what my reaction would have been if I hadn’t read it)
2)I’m so happy and somehow proud that the theater was not only full but that the people in it were mostly older than 30! (I counted about 10 people under 30, including me!). Moreover half of them were men and I have to admit that I was surprised! I’m so happy that it wasn’t only about teen twilight fans!!
3)I went to see the movie with a friend of mine who is 20 like me and an ex teacher of mine. (My teacher is 40 but she’s much younger in heart and in spirit. She is one of the most amazing and sophisticated people I know and her opinion matters a lot for me.) Anyway, on our way back after the movie we were talking about Rob. My teacher is a huge twilight fan but she doesn’t know anything about Rob. She said “this boy seems to be sort of the anti-Hollywood kind of actor. (she said it in a good way). He reminds me of some currently important actors at their first steps. I think he does good choices of movies. I’m sure that in 20 years from now I’ll be watching his great movies and I’ll be thinking ‘that’s the young man I saw so many years ago at his first steps. Wow look at him now, how big he is! And I’m sure I’ll be proud of him and of myself for being a fan of his!’ ”. Then she asked me what his name is and she said “I have to remember this name. I’m sure I’ll hear it a lot of times in a lot of the next years!”. So, we have a new fan of Rob here who sees much more than the pretty face and I’m so proud!!!
after all the positive reviews i’ve read, i expected to fall head over heel for the movie and to have the craves to own a DVD of it. but i actually only liked it. i think i expected too much after uhh…reading the script several times, and watching like alll the spoiler clips out online. the movie did not have well transitions like others described. it was a bit choppy, just the quality and effect kinda hide it a little. it was cool at first, but it gets old because allan used it for every transition scene. i also thought the 2nd love scene was not exactly at the right moment. but anyway, im glad i saw the movie, it was great. i cannot stop thinking about the movie. is it suppose to be one of the effects? since the name is remember me? i gave what i thought was a fair opinion of the movie, it wasnt biased by my growing affection for rob. to me, robert showed he was a growing actor, more than just a pretty face, but i always knew dat (; this movie just confirmed it to other individuals. pierce brosnan, chris cooper, emilie de ravin, ruby omg their facial expressions were incredible. rob picked a movie where his emotions can be shown, where its not just another blockbuster movies other actors pick, so i respect rob even more.
Normally I am very picky on movies. NW disappointed me like 100%. I found the director made the not so bad base story super cheesy, boring and fake in the movie.
But RM exceeded all my expectations. It is such a compelling movie beautiful, unpretentious and touching in a genuine way. The story was told in a beautiful pace and a subtle tone through out so natural and powerful that grabbed your attention the entire time. I’d say the director is a real genius whose job is way beyond the hype. He understood the spirit of the story and enhanced the original screen play so much that it became much more powerful and convincing. That’s a good director can do who doesn’t need the excuses to justify a lame work.
The cast is perfect. Rob is at his best, gazillion times more attractive than the cakey faced Edward. He is all I expected what he is and capable of doing and more. His performance is so appealing and believable. I guess he was just being himself. Then I’d rather see him standing around do random things for 2 hours than watching a silly, boring film.
Yeah, I think Rob should be proud of this film. So happy for him… my congratulations.
I just saw RM. Wow! The performances were amazing. Rob did such an incredible job. Someone used the word 'haunting', yes that describes the feeling. The more I think of the movie the more I remember so much of that time. I had to come home and put on Enya's Time.
Ruby as Caroline brought so much heart. Their relationship, Caroline and Tyler, was beautiful and poignant.
There is so much emotion wrapped into this movie - love, loss, family relationships.
I just have no words. I will be going back tomorrow. But I just keep thinking about it.
Our boy done good!
A friend of mine from Texas who saw it (and was blown away by the movie) accidentally revealed the ending to me in an email tonight... ooops. Well can you believe it, ladies, I haven't even seen RM yet, and I will not be able to see it till it's released here in April - but I actually cried when she told me what happened at the end!! I knew it was going to be something gut-wrenching, but somehow from the hints I had picked along without being spoilt sofar, I had imagined it would be Ally who was going to die and not him. Somehow in a weird way (I know some people said the same thing here and in the other spoiler post which I've now read entirely - why wait now?? dessert first!) I'm almost relieved that I know now, or I would have made a complete fool of myself in the theater bawling my eyes out in shock. Now I can go prepared, and strangely enough, it feels good, and I'm not even disgruntled - I guess it now feels like going to see let's say, for example, a Shakespeare tragedy, you know of course that Romeo & Juliet or King Lear and almost everyone in the play will die, but you also know you will enjoy the play just the same. Oh, and I love your comments, I can't wait to see the film, although I now know I'll have to take a box of tissues for me and my husband who will certainly cry like a baby too - he's just like that.
I loved seeing Rob in something like this ......but he really didn't need the modesty patch.........the love scenes didn't even show him below the waist, he could have been wearing his jeans and sneakers for all that we saw.
Loved his interaction with Ruby - so so cute - he was adorable with her.
They said in Hollywood that you should never do a movie with animals or kids........if you want to get noticed, cause they steal the show.
Emilie was great - so real, so flawless and pretty. I wish her hair had been more brushed and prettier but her skin was gorgeous and I liked how she related to Rob..........loved her line "you're really wierd".
Liked it when Rob pulled that little girls desk around.........those girls were so lucky to be in that scene with him....they did a good job of acting cause I'd of been like all ga ga and everything.
Aiden was really good too, funny, real, a good friend.
I'm glad they didn't show the violence of the 9/11 event......nobody needs to see that and New Yorkers would probably have not appreciated that. They did a good job of insinuating what day it was.
I would have liked to have seen some interaction with Rob and his brother Michael at the beginning.........at the end he said he forgave him........for what?
What did he do?
Right after RM I waltzed into another theater and saw Brooklyn's Finest with another fave of mine, Ethan Hawke, it was so violent and sad too but EH was great in it, really powerful. Sorry OT.
Where was the scene where the girl shoots Tyler the bird????? Remember the pictures of that? I wanted to see that.
@jessegirl: yes, I agree - and that was my point. :) If vested in the characters, then the ending works within the film in both a small and large way. If not, it may seem exploitive. I know some people don't like the montage afterwards, but those are the moments when we share the loss and aftermath with the characters, and if you do, you know you are reacting to the story, and not just the event. I think that is why they are there - a touchstone for both filmmakers and audience - and the point - remember, but live.
I want to make an audio loop of Rob saying "I love you" and just play it over and over and over and over and over and over and................
I saw the movie opening night and I can't stop thinking about it. The emotion that was put into it and the way the actors portrayed that emotion was beyond amazing. I think for that 2 hours I completely forgot Rob ever played Edward. I was so excited to see the Eclipse trailer on the big screen but by about 5 minutes into it I didn't even remember the trailer.
Being a mother myself that opening scene with Ally and her mom getting killed tore at my heart. I cried my eyes out at that part. Then to see the fight scene made me want to go beat up Ally's dad! It was fantastically portrayed. To watch the intensity between Tyler and Charles gave me chills. Also being someone who got picked on in school it broke my heart to see those girls picking on Caroline. It also broke my heart to see how she thought her dad didn't like her. The real gut wrencher for me was when those little braty ass girls cut Caroline's hair and then the scene where Tyler takes her to school and that one little snob says that remark and to watch Tyler act like that just tore me to bits.
I agree 100% with Aidan being the comic relief. I think it would have been a very hard movie to get threw without those little funny tidbits. Also to watch the relationship between Tyler and Ally develop was amazing. Rob and Emile had such wonderful chemistry.
To watch the scene where he finds Ally's dad in his apartment was gut wrenching. The emotion that came from Tyler was awesome. I hadn't read anything on the movie cause I didn't want to read spoilers but I did know that it wouldn't end how you expected it too. But the way it did end completely too me by surprise. I haven't cried that much at a movie in a LONG time. I knew when the zoomed back and I saw the date on that chalk board and knew where Tyler was even before they showed him looking out the window what was going to happen. I wish it had ended in a happier ending but I will see this movie numerous times.
I do agree that the scene at the grave yard was defiantly needed. To see how long Caroline's hair was and see that they were such a tight family still even in the wake of another tragedy. I will probably be going to see it again with my mom and my best friend who haven't seen it yet and I can't wait! I'm already dying for it to be on dvd.
Oh yeah, the scene when Chris strangles him and he laid there on the floor and it looked like he was crying or super upset as anyone would be.
After Rob told Em he loved her I started to squirm knowing what was coming next and my stomach got tense and I thought it was well done at the end......showing the extra scenes were important to complete the story.
He really does believe in "dramatic pauses" the length and time he took when approaching Ally for the first time to kiss her took forever it seemed. I really wanted more in the love scenes though - they were luke warm to me.
I saw Emilie in a movie - High Noon - on TV that had hotter love scenes than RM.
Loved Emilie with Rob........seemed so natural, like she said - it didn't seem like acting but like just having a normal conversation.
LOVED watching Rob squirm in his first approach to Ally and all the "lines" he was using.............he'd NEVER have to do that in real life now.............!
Remember the pictures from last summer when Rob was sitting on the sidewalk with his knees up and his head bowed down with the stir thing in his mouth?? I thought that was from the movie but must have been a real moment of pappz frustration.
Can't WAIT for special features on the DVD.
AP==exactly. I spoke my piece on the spoiler posting from Friday; might cut and paste it here for context. But I did want to say, to help some people understand why the 9-11 attacks on the WTC were so important, integral to the film, to consider this:
In the towers and on the ground over 2800 lives were snuffed. Think of 2800 Tylers. Think of 2800 families. Think of even more than 2800 surviving relatives of those 2800 and the effects such shockng loss has on each of them and then the lives they in turn will touch, and the lives they will try to rebuild. And then think of the city, the country; we are all the extended family of these victims.
May each victim be remembered. May each life be valued.
@ femroc: I think Tyler forgave Michael for killing himself. Having gone through the same thing with my father, I can totally relate to that. It took me many, many years to do the same and Ihttps://www.blogger.com/img/blank.gif still get angry and bitter about it, at times.
There is one thing that I would really like to know, though: what did those poor spaghetti ever do to Tyler, that he had to torture them like that???
;D
So last nite was Rob nite---Remember Me then Little Ashes (again)---it we'd had more time How To Be would have been in there too lol
Remember Me was a great movie! Loved it! I didn't read any spoilers or watch anything besides the trailers and see the stills...
This movie totally brought tears to my eyes---9/11 and Rob. At the beginning of the movie when they fast forwarded to 2001, I thought 9/11 had already happened because they were talking about terrorism in the global politics class. I was floored at the end---I literally couldn't come up with words!!
Tyler was such an awesome big brother!! I like to think that Rob would be that way ;) And his little sister was AWESOME!! She was AMAZING!! Rob and his acting was certainly amazing too but she was def a scene stealer!! So adorable!!
I really loved the movie it is going to be seen again multiple times!! This movie should be nominated for awards---like an OSCAR!!! But maybe I am biased.
I can't say enough good things about this film---going in with no idea of the story was probably helpful because this story was "fresh" to me---ya know not like those movies where they have the typical boy meets girl, boy falls in love, boy loses girl, boy gets girl back---yes it did sorta go along those lines but other movies like that had a fundamental thing missing--ROB!!! lol
Ok enough of my rambling...
Thanks for the spoiler post so I could dish :o) Hope everyone enjoyed the film!!
I ♥ Rob!
One of the most important parts of the movie, IMO, is the score! The music is so exquisitely paired with whichever scene---and there's a running "tension", conveyed through the music, throughout the movie, as well. Very foreboding. One of the HANDS DOWN BEST movie scores.
Cinematography, ditto! The boardroom confrontation? Tyler's black tie/white shirt against a black & white piece of modern art painting? He FITS so beautifully. Charles' striped suit against a gridded backdrop, same! Lots of specific placement instances like that. There's so much "texture" in each shot, it's just amazing.
One of the things that hit me hard was the fact that Janine died with Tyler. She was always there throughout the story, smoothing things over---and she was at the end as well. Unsung by anyone. I liked the shoe, in the ashes, near Tyler's journal---to me, it was a statement of reiteration. They went together.
Honestly, I never thought I'd be able to watch this movie repeatedly, but knowing the story in no way diminishes it's impact.
I also agree with others that said this may pick up in popularity, via word-of-mouth recommendations. It is an absolutely finely acted and crafted movie. It bears watching. Again and again.
So sorry Athena..........my aunt killed herself years ago and devastated my mom. I was sad but also upset with her for hurting my mom like that. I understand now.
I still want to know why they cut the scene with the girl who is shooting the finger to Rob.......or maybe that was real life?
And the pics of him sitting on the sidewalk with his knees up and head bowed into his hands - where did they go, was that real life or a scene that got cut?
Sorry, not that I think my words are so important, but I still wanted to share them with this thread so I'm pasting them here from the previous spoiler thread. Just disregard if you are sick of me.
Part One:
Came out of the theatre a couple of hours ago. Avatar, Alice and Green Zone all had hardly any seats left, but RM wasn't as full. On its first night. Not a good sign. But, we'll see.
I was heartened by what Solas observed: that older women had gone to see Pierce and come out amazed at Rob. Hopefully, a lot of that will happen. AnnieEvil...you talked about the Rob effect. I hope that in itself will make people, new fans of Rob, go again with others they know.
Laurie, I hope you're right, that it might be that sleeper which becomes a classic.
My BF came with me tonight and wasn't impressed with the movie as a whole. Liked Rob though. I came away wanting to go again. I did find it a bit disjointed.
I wished there'd been more with Tyler's mother, because, a mother who has lost a child is a powerfully tormented being. I didn't mean to disclose this, but now feel compelled. I am a mother who lost her 20 yr. old son. His body was found six months after he went missing. There is simply no worse torment. None.
Now I cannot believe there would not have been more interaction between Tyler and his Mom.
I remember Rob saying that Tyler could rail against his Dad because his Dad was stronger but his Mom was broken. Yeah, I'm there. But that relationship still needed illustrating. I don't think Will Fetters is mature enough to get that, to see that point of view, because he didn't deal with it. And Rob, for all his love for the script--god help us if all the others he's been sent to read are worse--hasn't suffered a supreme loss like that and wouldn't have seen this hole.
I wished I hadn't had any clue about the ending because it makes a difference. Once Tyler was gone, I was gone.
Yeah, everyone else was getting on with their lives but the huge emotional suffering needed to be portrayed. Okay, so Ally gets the nerve to use the subway again and Aiden has a tattoo (which I missed); Daddy takes his daughter to the art gallery. It was as if the characters, after suffering this terrible loss, had philosophical, not emotional, responses. It did not feel right.
Lives have been changed and those are the outward indications of that.
But, the tormented protagonist, Tyler, the one around whom all the others revolved, has died horribly. I didn't see that. I only saw, 'life goes on' and the idea--not the execution--that love heals and the carpe diem idea. March 13, 2010 3:21 AM
Part 2:
Cerulean: Yeah, his NY 'apartment stole scenes'. It was the only comic relief in the film.
But I also agree with you about Rob's acting. You said, 'intelligent, controlled, consistent..portrayal'.
Now Tyler as a lost soul, tormented and rebelling against the only target who can take it--his Dad--(okay, the fight scene and the violence at the school too), that Tyler Robert played perfectly. And that was the core of Tyler.
People complain about Rob's broody face. It was on point here, necessary to the character. Journaling and introspection is a way of coping with loss, so is Tyler's formlessness, his lack of ambition, his rage and sense of impotence. All those Rob illustrated really well with his very expressive face. All in all I thought he did a great job.
My criticism would be about the disjointedness of the totality. I think it was trying to achieve too much within the tight time frame.
I've already said I think the mother's relationship was glossed over, and in real life it would not have been. The scene at her family's beach house was too short; it didn't explore what it could have and in the end one wondered at the purpose of including it at all.
I'll have to think about this more.
I'm seeing it again tomorrow and maybe things will seem clearer then. March 13, 2010 4:02 AM
Part 3:
Yes bonemama, I'd like to think Rob would be lurking here a bit, at least on this thread, because whatever the critics say, we here (in general) are able to see what so many cannot.
Rob, do not read reviews.
Yeah, Rob, you can act, and if people are blown away by your looks they are also deeply affected by your abilities and your devotion to excellence, which shows so clearly in this film.
That said, it is hard to be objective about such a sensitive and talented actor because no one can get past his looks and magnetism to figure out just how good an actor he is.
Expecting Rob to 'open' a film is cruel. It puts inhumane pressure on him. He is a human being who deserves a chance to have his work fairly evaluated. It isn't fair, either to applaud him in mindless adoration or to scoff at his efforts merely to counter that adoration. Neither are helpful.
Stop reading Rob, if you're there.
Okay ladies, no matter what 'reviews' we give RM, let's face it, we couldn't take our eyes off him. Man oh man, he is gorgeous beyond belief in this movie. No vamp make-up. Just Rob, looking magnificent whether beat-up, smoking, in bed or out, in a suit or t-shirts, whatever, whatever. Even in those stupid shorts.
And thank you Allen Coulter for all the close-ups, 'cause it was a Robfest of mammoth proportions. CW did not get that. March 13, 2010 4:29 AM
Okay, new comments after the second viewing. Went tonight with my HB and he really liked it, was really moved and thought Rob was good. The theatre was about 3/4 full and everyone was quiet and absorbed, really absorbed.
AP: I've changed my mind about the ending montage. It felt better the second time.
Athena and Nancy: Thx for your hugs. Back at you. And Athena, sorry about your dad. And Femroc, hugs about your aunt. Geez, there's so much sorrow in the world.
Cheer: You used some words which should go on the movie ads for RM, like 'unpretentious, compelling, touching, subtle tone'. Absolutely.
Mitts: You said you couldn't stop thinking about it. Man, you are so right. Look at my super long postings. And so many of us have said this. It is a theme that runs through these threads. How often do we get movies we actually ponder on at length after they are over??
You used the
words, 'haunting', 'powerful'. Let's ad that to the list. Absolutely.
Femroc: I think he forgives Michael for killing himself, because a suicide, complex as it is, means you deliberately take yourself away from life and the family. And the family is then tormented,guilt-ridden.
I also agree that the love scenes could have been hotter.
Athena and GwenC: The score. Aren't you both observant. Only the second time around did I notice, but that just means the music is appropriate and used effectively. It hit the right note, was very subtly used. It impacted me greatly the second time.
As so many of you have said, this film requires multiple viewings (for different reasons than we needed them for Twilight). I think it is going to sneak into a lot of people and they won't know what hit them.
Oh, Solas, are you back from your little trip? How'd you like it.
I've never posted before, so hi everyone! This movie will stay with me for a long, long time. I saw it yesterday and am still moved to tears today just thinking about it. It was a beautiful, tragic movie. Rob is absolutely incredible.
I have a question and was wondering if anyone could answer it. Was there a plane in the distance when Tyler was looking out the window? It was in the script, but I swear I don't think I saw it in the movie. But I was crying to hard it wouldn't surprise me if I missed it. Does anyone know?
Femroc..I think those pictures where he was sitting down looking incredibly upset was the day he got attacked by those crazy girls, wasn't it? I could very well be mistaken, but I thought it was the same day and that was a real life moment. Those pictures made me cry :(
@Mika
i dont think there was. i think it was supposed to be one of those scenarios where the audience "caught on to what was about to happen". Personally I like the silence and the whooshing of the air as the camera panned out from the twin towers to be honest. i think it had more of an impact than if i would have seen the plane. it was knd of that moment where your heart just stopped and everything around you gets deafeningly quiet where you can hear your own heart beat.
i liked the original script better.. especially when it came to Michael's death but i do wish they would have kept the "why is the plane flying so low" part.
@vafla I saw it two times the place was packed both times and I am so proud of all of them. Not a lot of teens, grown ups men and women. The viewers' reviews are just superb so this movie is gonna do great at least in Greece. I am so so happy.
@Steph I agree with you about the "why the plane.." there were young pll like the teens in the theater that they didn't get it, but this is a tough issue for so many pll so I dont know what would be wrong or right.
So that *was* Janine's shoe! I thought it might be, but I hadn't paid attention to what shoes she was wearing, so I couldn't tell... I should go see it again just for that! Even more gut-wrenching... she seemed to be more his mother than his mother... it was only right for her to be there until the end.
Was that "Why is the plane" line in the original script? Wow... I'm sort of glad it wasn't in the film: I think it would have really been to much to bear, for me, emotionally. I would have thrown up there and then. Just reading it here is already a punch in the guts. Wow.
@ femroc: big hugs to you. Losing a family member so suddenly, whether it's an accident, murder, or suicide is a loss on so many levels: you don't have time to say goodbye, that you love them, or that you're sorry. I think that's the worst.
@ jessegirl: thanks :). And for me, too, it hit harder the second time: the first time I was too expectant, too overwhelmed by Rob's gorgeousness and my defences were all up. But the second time my heart was laid bare and, boy, did I feel it!
I was thinking, yesterday, that Remember Me might have killed all romantic dramas to come, for me. I find it hard to believe that any of those regular boy-meets-girl movies will ever do it again for me (they already did little for me to start with).
@Jessegirl: Enjoyed reading your posts! I have to disagree on one thing though:
"Okay, so Ally gets the nerve to use the subway again (---) It was as if the characters, after suffering this terrible loss, had philosophical, not emotional, responses. It did not feel right."
I think Ally in the subway scene was actually waiting for the relief of a gun shot, to end her misery and bring her to Tyler. That was the feeling I got from it.
Interesting how the same scene can be interpreted so entirely different! I think that is one of the things that defines a good movie - when it's not spelled out so obvious that people can see different meanings in the same scene.
I have a question about the scene where you see Tyler in the tower at the office window (I haven't seen the film yet). Does anything show on his face to indicate that he's seeing the danger coming? Or is he just looking out, completely unaware? Can anyone please tell me?
And - is is true you see his diary in the ashes - after?
No, I don't recall noticing anything in his face indication he saw what was coming. I thought he looked happy and content. And you did see his diary in the ashes. It was sad. I was actually waiting for Allys father to find it, it seemed kind of appropriate but I don't know why I thought so. He didn't, though.
Ok thanks SwedenSara! Somehow these two details were important to me. So thanks for telling me!
I had the privilege of watching Remember Me in the theater yesterday. It was ultimately a brilliant movie, satisfying in it’s take on love, loss and life. It certainly gave me a lot to think about, which suites the title accurately. I left the cinema hall dazed, unsure after its sudden twist of fate at the end. Did it suit the movie? Precisely so. The theme of loss and coping with life’s struggles seems to main theme of this movie, regardless if the trailer suggested otherwise. Did I LIKE the ending? Not as much in the movie, but that’s because it was more affective in the script. The plane crashing and the footage on the TV and Tyler’s voice-overs. But with all the backlash it’s been getting for it, it’s better that those finer, more intimate details were left out. Overall, the finale was affective and memorable.
I’d just like to mention how proud I am of Robert, being a big fan of his and all. He wonderfully proved his worth, his skills and timing, in terms of acting with both actions and words in this movie. His snarcky remarks, witty responses, insulting curses, and best of all, deep thoughts were expressed very well. You see him totally let go in some scenes, then grudgingly hold back in others. I was particularly impressed with that scene between him and the amazing Pierce Brosnan, who plays his dad. The way he shouted, how he looked, struttered, stormed around, it looked surprisingly natural, as shocking as that sounds. And I’m being a 100% honest and unbiased here when I say that I was blown away. You see, in most movies, people who are supposedly really angry just seem to scream and shout in perfect, clear sentences at each other. And in real life, that doesn’t happen, not often, at least. You’re supposed to be at a point where you’re so angry, you can barely even speak in proper sentences, which was exactly how Tyler was. It was a short but distinguishing scene for me, Rob IS an actor. A real, raw one, at that. And he’s here to stay.
That picture...makes me want to cry...
It's the part...where he says..."I love you"...! *Sobs*
SwedenSara:
Hope you find this post, because it's pretty hidden here. I just went back over some older posts tonight to see whether the threads were dead and was surprised this one wasn't.
Anyway, thanks for your comments.
It is very interesting how differently we've interpreted things, like Ally's subway ride at the end. Wow, I never, ever thought she was tempting suicide!
Funnily enough, I've changed my mind about the montage at the end, the optimistic--I think--observations about what all the remaining characters are doing now that Tyler is dead. Sort of, I think I'm ambivalent.
I still have trouble with Ally on the subway because she looks too light-hearted, dressed in a pretty dress and confident (see how differently I saw it). I mean, I don't begrudge her happiness, but it was too soon after Tyler's death.
That is, it was too soon after we the audience had felt the impact of Tyler's death. We were still shocked, numbed, and to see the others all pick up the pieces of their lives was jarring for me.
I know there was supposed to be a time gap for the characters, but there wasn't for us, and we were still in shock. Basically, grieving. That's not when optimism is demanded of you. Mourning has its own purpose and it has to be given its due, or else.
iluvrpattz:
Yes, I loved Tyler's anger in the boardroom and your description of the acting is perfect. Rob was just great in that scene, for all the reasons you mentioned.
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