An Interesting Article About The 'Ladies' of The View with a Robert Pattinson Mention
Do The Hosts of 'The View' Go Too Far With Their Male Guests?
There are few situations more awkward than having Barbara Walters and Joy Behar chat about your private parts on national television. But Robert Pattinson accepting his hazing by the women of "The View" with quiet grace and a tight smile on Tuesday.
Because that's what male guests of the morning talk show are expected to do when they enter the estrogen-heavy territory of hosts Walters, Behar, Sherri Shepherd, Elisabeth Hasselbeck and Whoopi Goldberg.
The women on the show, by virtue of their age and status into the media world are able to say and do pretty much what they please, including invading the personal space of male guests and talking to them about subjects that would be taboo if the genders were reversed.
"It's not one on one, it's five against one, and that makes the difference, so if the man is feeling uncomfortable, what is he going to do about it?" Cooper Lawrence, author of "Cult of Celebrity," told FOX411. "It definitely puts the male guest in a submissive role."
Pattinson, 23, allowed the ladies to spend an inordinate amount of time talking about how he covered what they referred to as his "unit" during his sex scenes in the upcoming movie "Remember Me," and endured Barbara Walters, 80, asking him about his unfortunate "vagina allergy" comments in Details magazine. This was before they asked him (via a "fan email") if he would ever date an older woman.
The average age of the talk show hosts is 55, in case they were hinting at anything.
"It promotes the sort of behavior you can't get away with in the real world. It perpetuates behavior that has no place on a talk show, especially when it is endorsed by somebody like Barbara Walters," says Salvatore G. Gangemi, an attorney specializing in sexual harassment suits. "[But] it's not illegal."
A representative for The View did not return emails or calls for comment.
Pattinson's visit wasn't the first time the hosts got flirty with a male guest. "You're considered a big sex symbol in Hollywood, the whole package, it's quite stunning I have to tell you," an over-excited Joy Behar, 67, told actor Benicio Del Toro when he graced the women's couch to talk about his upcoming film "Wolfman" last month.
When the cast of "The Jersey Shore" stopped by a couple of weeks ago Behar candidly asked the men from the MTV reality show, "When you have sex on the show do you use condoms?" When Mike "The Situation" Sorrentino answered that he did indeed engage in protected sex, Behar pushed the envelope even further asking him if he even made sure to use one "in the hot tub."
Men in the media need to be careful about the things they say to and about women. ESPN suspended "Pardon the Interruption" host Tony Kornheiser last month for two weeks following his critique of fellow on-air personality Hannah Storm's fashion sense. Behar can ask about prophylactics, but musician John Mayer has been nationally lambasted for talking about his time in the bedroom with Jessica Simpson and is now pursuing what should just be called his "I'm Sorry For Being a Jerk Tour: 2010."
A male talk show host like Jay Leno or David Letterman would never be able to get away with blatantly flirting with a 22-year old starlet the way Walters did last November as she giggled and asked Zac Ephron about his bare-chested photographs in People magazine. "If you went door to door showing everyone your chest how did you miss my house?" Walters asked with a coy smile. Behar stepped in and exclaimed, "Mrs. Robinson, calm down!"
Getting friendly (sometimes a little too friendly) is part of "The View's" shtick. It's what the audience, comprised mainly of middle-aged housewives eats up and one o fthe reasons they tune in on a daily basis, to live vicariously through these five women, wishing they could ogle Robert Pattinson and tell Benicio DelToro, 43, he is sexy.
"That would simply never ever work for a man," says etiquette expert and author of "Business Class: Etiquette Essentials for Success at Work" Jacqueline Whitmore. "Their viewers accept that but it doesn't make it acceptable and it does make men uncomfortable. Some guests are ok with it and some aren't but they would never say anything because their publicists would be angry and they want to be invited back. But it's what the audience likes so they will probably keep delivering."
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26 comments:
yeah WOMEN in general love Rob, i'm 16 and my Mom 51 and we both think he's sexy u.u
And Rob and submissive in the same sentence kind of gave me some thoughts ... and "Mrs. Robinson, calm down!" made me think in MoTU. yeah it's time for me to quit reading fanfics lol
Rob brings that out in all ages, although I didn't think they were especially flirty with Rob...his mom & sisters were there along with Emilie...think they kept it pretty low key.
I have no idea of what show is this, but 'horny ladies' drooling over RPattz sounds great to me... I see one everytime I look in a mirror...
;-DD
I saw the episode of The View where Joy was asking that Jersey Shore guy if he used condoms. She wasn't asking him to be flirty in any way. She was calling him out on his irresponsible behavior as a complete womanizer, man-whore. I was mentally giving her a high-five for that. :)
You have to take that article with a grain of salt since it's from Fox News. I still can't get over the media bashing of the wolves not wearing shirts. If they had read the books they would understand why. How many times have you seen scantily clad women in movies for no reason and I don't hear any uproar from the media. Fox's conservative point of view is threatened by strong women so they bash The View. I think Rob did a great job and looked perfectly at ease on the show.
The View Ladies did hold back even tho they did want info on the half bra story. I thought Walters was very flirty. But Rob mentioned B. White (not Walters).
So what's wrong with that! I actually thinks that Rob doesn't mind it at all! I thought it was pretty quiet too.
@rpattzgirl.. we missed you at our NB party tonight..
Haha, cougars! Yes, he makes woman of all ages go crazy!! XD
*rolls eyes* I've read comments about him on blogs that would probably make him cringe and make Barbara Walters blush...Did she flirt with him? Yes. Was it distasteful? In my opinion? NO. If anything it was shameless praise of him and his career.
And not to be a downer, but @maaahtwi4ever, 16 year olds that are reading M stories on FanFic is *part* of the reason these stories are getting pulled from the site.
I liked the interview on the View. But I think Jimmy Fallon and Jon Stewart were my favorites ;)
womadsart,
sorry I missed it...just too much RL going on, plus I'm sick...feel bleh!
@rpg - sorry you're not feeling well. :o(
Hey, RPG, hope you feel better. Been there and done that.
Love ya.
This is exactly what I was commenting on the other day after the interview - the embarassing flirtations of these women were gross and poor Rob had to just sit there and take it and giggle from nervous embarrassment. They barely looked at Emily and oogled and flirted with Rob - it was just so uncomfortable to watch.
I said it before and I'll say it again.........I HATE THE VIEW.
femroc, ITA. The View SUCKS. I laughed at Rob, though, he was charming as usual!
i thought he handled himself very well--you can tell he grew up in a house of women
Read this earlier today. (Foxnews.com also had a pic of Rob up in a 'bearded celeb' slide show LOL)
I'm on the record as hating the View. It's a cluck fest of the worst kind. I swear one of these days one of those hens is going to lay an egg right on stage.
As the article said, Rob did handle himself with grace, as he always does, regardless of the situation (and he's been in some situations that would cause a lesser man to flip)
And Femroc, I agree. I kept wondering when someone was going to notice that poor Emilie was sitting there as well!
Rob did handle himself very well. I thought it was kind of tacky that the hosts were going on about the modesty patch with Rob's mother in the room.
...there's nothing wrong with old women drooling over a young man! I dont even think Rob minds.
The view is the only interview I didn't like... All those grannies were annoying but Rob was just perfect, as usual!
I don't know what the press can invent next. We've had his coming-out on Details! The N word! and now sexual harassement? LOL... Rob is a man, not a poor kid, he can handle himself just fine...
some of questions was annoying but he was just perfect
We don't get The View here in the UK so this is the only time I've seen it.
I gather that the women on the show usually behave like that, so Rob must've known what he was going into.
What I found objectionable was the fact that they had clearly invited Emilie on the show and then virtually ignored her. She must be quite fed up of that by now, poor thing.
Lord knows what Rob's mum must have been thinking...
@sissy
I'm a granny and I also find the View crew to be annoying. Only watched because of our man. I thought things went okay and of course Rob can handle it all!!
@RPG
Sorry, babe that you are not well. Feel better real soon!
@cv
LMAO
@sissidelyon I agree with you too, I didn't like this interview at all, I found it vulgar and to be sincere not very interesting - a waste of time for Rob and Emilie; plus they certainly did ignore Emilie, that was really rude.
Doesn't Spike TV have a show called The Man show or something like that? They have women in bikini's on a trampoline and drink beer on the show....They might not have as many viewers but maybe because men aren't as into watching TV as women?
So nobody has a problem with Jon Stewart asking him if he took up piano and guitar to get laid? It's ok for Jon to kid around about women wanting to strip Rob naked? It's alright that he implied "there's enough of JStew to go around," meaning he would have sex with them? Men are allowed to make sex-related jokes, but women aren't?
Also, all of these articles attacking women for objectifying Rob are missing the fact that it's not just his fans who have picked up on his looks ... Photographers see it and make it part of the photo shoots he does. Movie makers see it and it influences the roles he lands (his HP role was the good looking kid on campus, Edward is the dreamy hunk). This isn't something that only women see. Even Jon Stewart said being close to Pattinson "somehow makes me cooler." Another recent male interviewer joked "it's like looking in a mirror," knowing Rob is a looker.
Do some women (and men) cross the line? Obviously. But did the View? Hardly. And those of us who talk about how good looking he is aren't ALL doing that either.
And what all these people seem to miss is that the thing his fans find most attractive about him is his TALENT and PERSONALITY. Neither of them are looks based. It's just that, teamed with his looks, it's an almost irresistible package.
Barbra Walters and the other ladies had obviously SEEN Remember Me. And they'd apparently NOT seen the Twilight movies (at least Barbra didn't). Could her flirtation have been based at all on the fact that he's an AMAZING actor in that movie?
@Moonbeam, I totally agree. We muck about on here, where we feel safe, but what we're all agreed on is that Rob isn't just a pretty face.
As I said on another thread a while ago, women have been objectified for centuries, and so it's a bit rich to censure us for behaviour that is endemic in our cultures. But it's the same with lots of 'traditional' male pursuits.
As soon as girls start sleeping around, or joining gangs and beating up people, or drinking till they vomit then society comes out and throws the book at them, when it's been merely tutting gently under its breath when the boys do it. Of course I don't condone such behaviour, FROM EITHER SEX but double standards really make me seethe!
*Steps down from her soapbox and calmly allows someone else some room*
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