I wonder how they feel about all of this? And I don't mean the money. I seriously doubt either of them would whore themselves out in such a manner by selling their images this way.
If it were me, I'd be feeling so helpless right now and praying to the gods for it to all be over soon AND thinking twice before ever signing a 'promotions' clause again. In essence, Summit and this franchise owns their asses until it's dead, blessed and buried.
Ah well. Could be worse. They could be unimployed actors waiting tables.
Don't they have to get approval from the stars to do this????????? I cannot imagine Rob approving that comic crap.
That awful Robsessed "documentacrap" was a horrible way to cash in on Rob and I just can't believe people do this stuff without even getting consent from the actor themselves. An action figure doll and comic magazine......what's next?? A Saturday morning cartoon show?
ADM lol. Yeah, paper never kept anyone warm at night!
@femroc Who know's. Rob's "people" surely had to give approval. He may not even have details of everything out there on behalf of his name. I know, it sure seems lame!
I believe when they signed that original contract with Summit (for the first three films), that there was a 'promotions' clause in there AND that they essentially signed themselves and their images (some would say their souls) over to Summit and therefore, they lost 'control' of the situation.
I mean there's no way that actors like Robert Pattinson and Kristen Stewart would willingly particpate in some of the shit they've had to. No way. Well...they had no way of knowing that there was a cultural tsunami waiting up ahead for them. Who could have forseen in the fall of 2007 when they signed those contracts, what was about to happen to their lives?
They're just gonna have to duck their heads, try to hold onto as much of their dignity as they can and ride it out. And like DiCaprio said (other thread), this is all gonna pass and no one's gonna remember any of it.
If Rob goes on to be an actor the caliber of DiCaprio or Depp, is anyone going to remember or care that there once was a comic book of him at 23 during the height of Twilight madness? Nope. No one will.
Can anyone here recall any of the particulars of 1998, the year of Leo mania? Nope. No one can.
In case people didn't see it (from the posts it seems like some didn't), in the post below about the comic book, Twiligh Moonlighter posted this: Ladies, I'm the author of the comic... I'm the Twilight Parents Examiner and also owner of twilightmoonlighter.com- most definitely a fan. You guys raise some valid questions: *yep- I'll be contacting Rob's manager and we're happy to donate some of the proceeds to Rob's favorite charity. *Granted- the cover is Rob's GQ photo and Edward Cullen's body. Gah. I assure you the art inside is much more lifelike. * Yes, the fangs and sparkle comments were off-base. That's the P.R.- not to be confused with the content. *I'm a die-hard Rob fan, and my sources were other Rob websites, so those who've read all about him may not learn that much, but they will appreciate seeing little bits of what we all adore about him. * It's a comic book told from a fan's point of view, designed for a teenage audience but savvy enough to be enjoyed by all. It's not at all invasive into his personal life- more so a compilation of his work told in an interesting way. All that said, I hope you give it a shot! :) -Kim
Personally, I keep wondering how they managed to get his nose wrong in every picture we've seen. Did they ONLY use reversed pictures? How can they not see it's wrong?
So this isn't a Summit enterprise but simply a fan (with waaaaaaaaay too much time on her hands). But here's the thing.
Rob could object, but why? It's just another magazine about him only done in comic book form. He could take this person to court and try to stop it, but why? It would take too much time, money and energy. And since she's a fan, I seriously doubt she wants to defame him. Hell, she's probably hoping for a 'meet.' Good luck with that one darlin'.
The best he could do here is try to get some of the proceeds for charity. You notice she said, that wasn't a done deal but that she'd get in touch with his people, meaning she hasn't done so yet.
When you're famous, anybody can do 'unauthorized' shit. How many books are out there on Rob already? A half a dozen? Just people trying to cash in on his fame.
Makes me sick. Go figure out another way to make money rather than off the back off someone else's life.
Nikola - I remember the Titanic insanity. I remember girls taking trips to where Titanic survivors graves were, and supposedly there was a grave with J. Dawson on it. Urban Legend?, probably, but I also remember Leo not being able to leave his house (like Rob today), and Leo having to take a year off for all that stuff to cool down. If Rob took a year off, I would cry myself to sleep every night.
Leo could afford to take a couple of years off back then because he already had an acclaimed body of work under him; This Boy's Life, Gilbert Grape (Oscar nomination), Basketball Diaries, Total Eclipse, Romeo + Juliet. When all this Twilight insanity broke loose, Rob did not have any of that. So, he didn't have the luxury of taking anytime off. He had to strike while the iron was hot and he is. He's trying to build a body of work (Remember Me, Bel Ami, hopefully Water For Elephants, Unbound Captives) while riding out this hurricane he's found himself in. Not an easy thing to do at all. I would bet that had he already been an established actor when Twilight hit, like DiCaprio, he would have gone underground, surfacing only when he had to do another Twilight film.
And don't be surprised that once Twilight it through and he's got a few more films under his belt, that he doesn't take a break himself. Maybe a break of a year or two. I personally think he's gonna need it.
BTW...even though this comic book thing is not a Summit deal, you can still bet your house they've got a promotions clause in their original contracts. Which is why they ended up on that ridiculous Hot Topic Mall tour and him having to attend Wal Mart's 5:30 am corporate meeting to shill DVD's. Something interesting I've noticed though this time around (for New Moon)...
Not as much cheesy promotion. Well. Their stardom has made them indespensible to the franchise and being in that position does give them a little bit more say in how they are going to be used to continue selling this franchise.
But as for fans and the 'unauthorized' gang...not a whole hell of alot they can do about that. Unless they go to far and do something to actually defame him. Then he could -and might- go after them.
Hi, Marna! Got a reply back from the ff author I mentioned on the other thread---interesting perspective. She admitted a need for validation and storyline approval---otherwise, if no one is reading, why would she bother.
My conclusion is that the perpetual story-draggers are writing for sport, as an ongoing endeavor (not a means to an ends, say, a completed story).
This actually explains a lot of abandoned work, again, IMO. If some authors aren't getting their per chapter "feedback fix", they stop writing. Or if they hit a peak, they stop because a) it takes too much effort to finish and b) quit while you're ahead.
None of which is wrong/bad, it's just a bit frustrating to have to offer reviews every single chapter to encourage an author to continue. ; )
Funny thing - there is a facebook page that is listed as Rob P is ugly (that's just mean) and they have 200K members but the main person posting keeps asking people to send ugly pictures of Rob and apparently they aren't doing it...........hmmmmmm wonder why???
Ur a very thought felt and and affable writer..but yet u can't spell unemployed?..maybe if u read the paper..u'll see enough of the word to understand it..I think may haps u need to read a bit more on the subject..just alil bit..and if u wanna use my words and or speech..I'll ask you first for a fuckin contract..kk numbwit?
What difference does it makes if Rob is ugly or beautiful? I don''t love him just for his perfect face ;)BTW he is not perfect that's what makes him perfect. His "perfectness" is not ordinary that's why some people can't see it. You have to have a that special "eye" to see the gorgeous features and the brain attached to it!
I'm surprised that people are objecting to this comic book story of Rob. Maybe I am just so hungry for any word about him, photographs, updates on what he is doing, that even a comic book sounds good to me. I just can't help but think that if he weren't so awesome they wouldn't even want to do this, so I don't see it as a joke or something bad at all. Maybe I am missing something.
Nikola6, I'm not sure he would even want to get away from it all if he could. He seems to love acting and has stated that he can get away from all of the nonsense when he is working. He forgets about the screaming girls and the papparazi when he is working. He has his eye on a long term career as an actor and these are great opportunities for him. So, it seems to me that he is very philosophical (if a bit embarrassed) by all of the attention, but is using it to his advantage because under all the shy awkwardness that is so endearing, is a smart guy with a goal.
Thanks RPattzgirl. And to the rest who are always so kind...thank you. As for others...everyone is entitled to their opinions or their games or whatever. I can choose to get into the mix or ignore it. I choose to ignore it because I don't want to expend my energy (and playtime here) on something that has absolutely no importance of bearing upon my life. No one can hurt you unless you let them. And if they can't get the reaction they're looking for, the school of thought is, they'll eventually get bored and stop. Pretty simple. Although I'm not a complete doormat and I do have a line in the sand that can get my irish up if crossed (and that usually involves if someone else I like is getting slapped at) But until then...nah. Not worth the time.
And agreed Sharon...
I don't think he's looking to run away right now either and that's because, all of these doors are NOW being opened to him. What I meant was, if he had already been an established actor, having been working steadily for a couple of years, he might have then (when this tsumani hit him in the face) have taken a break from it.
And I believe (just my opinion) that he will take that break as soon as he feels he can. And it could be a long one of a year or two. That's not surprising as alot of actors take that kind of time off, especially after a long haul of work.
I have a friend who is Hugh Jackman crazy and she's going nuts because his last film was Wolverine this past spring and his next film isn't slated to come out until sometime in 2011. From the time he finished Wolverine in 2008 to when he goes back in front of the cameras for his next film, it will have been nearly two years. Like I said, she's going nuts.
That's true. But the flipside of that is, we all need assholes because without them, we'd die. LOL! Oh dear.
Maybe we just need to define 'asshole'...
1) a most essential part of the human anatomy without which, our bowels would burst through our abdomens and we'd all end up looking like that guy from 'Alien'. Minus the...uh...alien.
2) people who like to stir up shit here, there and everywhere because they're annoyed, bored, pissed to holy hell, think it's funny, frustruated 'cause they can't get laid proper or just because they can. Who knows?
Either definition...were dealing with a load of shit.
I still say theyre spot on cept for the Haya. WTF! how can they possibly screw up RObs sig look? Sex hair,smoldering eyes,cherry lips,jawporn. Get it right people! chop! chop!
Kate,
ReplyDeleteMe too...no comic Rob for me....
Kate
ReplyDeleteITA~Ain't nothin' like the real thing, baby!
Does he receive any money for this comic book?
ReplyDeleteNothing compares to real Rob, for sure!
I'll take warm flesh and blood over cold paper any day. LMAO
ReplyDeleteADM,
ReplyDeleteLMAO! oh yea, you know he's warm and smells good....
I don't know how about you guys, but this Comic Book drawing with Rob's face and Edward's outfit looks a bit creepy to me.
ReplyDeleteI would definitely prefer the real Rob too Kate:)
I wonder how they feel about all of this? And I don't mean the money. I seriously doubt either of them would whore themselves out in such a manner by selling their images this way.
ReplyDeleteIf it were me, I'd be feeling so helpless right now and praying to the gods for it to all be over soon AND thinking twice before ever signing a 'promotions' clause again. In essence, Summit and this franchise owns their asses until it's dead, blessed and buried.
Ah well. Could be worse. They could be unimployed actors waiting tables.
Don't they have to get approval from the stars to do this????????? I cannot imagine Rob approving that comic crap.
ReplyDeleteThat awful Robsessed "documentacrap" was a horrible way to cash in on Rob and I just can't believe people do this stuff without even getting consent from the actor themselves. An action figure doll and comic magazine......what's next??
A Saturday morning cartoon show?
Maybe I need my glasses checked, but I think his face on this comic book was taken from his GQ cover.
ReplyDeleteYou know how you can cartoonize (is that even a word?) your own face? It looks to me like that's what they did here...with that GQ cover.
Anyone else see it?
Wait, isn't Rob cold-skinned and doesn't he only like to suck blood.
ReplyDelete/sarcasm
Warm, tall, sweet smelling, sex-haired Rob is the only one I want.
ADM
ReplyDeletelol. Yeah, paper never kept anyone warm at night!
@femroc
Who know's. Rob's "people" surely had to give approval. He may not even have details of everything out there on behalf of his name. I know, it sure seems lame!
@nikola6, I think you're right about his face here being taken from the GQ cover. I've noticed that too.
ReplyDeleteIt does look like Rob, but it also looks like Sawyer on Lost, too!
ReplyDeleteWTF are they thinking?
ReplyDeletefemroc...
ReplyDeleteI believe when they signed that original contract with Summit (for the first three films), that there was a 'promotions' clause in there AND that they essentially signed themselves and their images (some would say their souls) over to Summit and therefore, they lost 'control' of the situation.
I mean there's no way that actors like Robert Pattinson and Kristen Stewart would willingly particpate in some of the shit they've had to. No way. Well...they had no way of knowing that there was a cultural tsunami waiting up ahead for them. Who could have forseen in the fall of 2007 when they signed those contracts, what was about to happen to their lives?
They're just gonna have to duck their heads, try to hold onto as much of their dignity as they can and ride it out. And like DiCaprio said (other thread), this is all gonna pass and no one's gonna remember any of it.
If Rob goes on to be an actor the caliber of DiCaprio or Depp, is anyone going to remember or care that there once was a comic book of him at 23 during the height of Twilight madness? Nope. No one will.
Can anyone here recall any of the particulars of 1998, the year of Leo mania? Nope. No one can.
Nik
ReplyDeleteI keep my GQ out at all times. I see it as well. Looks like a drawing of that cover to me.
In case people didn't see it (from the posts it seems like some didn't), in the post below about the comic book, Twiligh Moonlighter posted this:
ReplyDeleteLadies,
I'm the author of the comic... I'm the Twilight Parents Examiner and also owner of twilightmoonlighter.com- most definitely a fan.
You guys raise some valid questions:
*yep- I'll be contacting Rob's manager and we're happy to donate some of the proceeds to Rob's favorite charity.
*Granted- the cover is Rob's GQ photo and Edward Cullen's body. Gah. I assure you the art inside is much more lifelike.
* Yes, the fangs and sparkle comments were off-base. That's the P.R.- not to be confused with the content.
*I'm a die-hard Rob fan, and my sources were other Rob websites, so those who've read all about him may not learn that much, but they will appreciate seeing little bits of what we all adore about him.
* It's a comic book told from a fan's point of view, designed for a teenage audience but savvy enough to be enjoyed by all. It's not at all invasive into his personal life- more so a compilation of his work told in an interesting way.
All that said, I hope you give it a shot! :)
-Kim
Personally, I keep wondering how they managed to get his nose wrong in every picture we've seen. Did they ONLY use reversed pictures? How can they not see it's wrong?
Interesting.
ReplyDeleteSo this isn't a Summit enterprise but simply a fan (with waaaaaaaaay too much time on her hands). But here's the thing.
Rob could object, but why? It's just another magazine about him only done in comic book form. He could take this person to court and try to stop it, but why? It would take too much time, money and energy. And since she's a fan, I seriously doubt she wants to defame him. Hell, she's probably hoping for a 'meet.' Good luck with that one darlin'.
The best he could do here is try to get some of the proceeds for charity. You notice she said, that wasn't a done deal but that she'd get in touch with his people, meaning she hasn't done so yet.
When you're famous, anybody can do 'unauthorized' shit. How many books are out there on Rob already? A half a dozen? Just people trying to cash in on his fame.
Makes me sick. Go figure out another way to make money rather than off the back off someone else's life.
Nikola - I remember the Titanic insanity. I remember girls taking trips to where Titanic survivors graves were, and supposedly there was a grave with J. Dawson on it. Urban Legend?, probably, but I also remember Leo not being able to leave his house (like Rob today), and Leo having to take a year off for all that stuff to cool down. If Rob took a year off, I would cry myself to sleep every night.
ReplyDeleteMarna,
ReplyDeleteGood catch-I don't usually even read the thread that have no interest to me....
But ITA about the nose-they always seem to use flipped photos, I don't get it either...
Leo could afford to take a couple of years off back then because he already had an acclaimed body of work under him; This Boy's Life, Gilbert Grape (Oscar nomination), Basketball Diaries, Total Eclipse, Romeo + Juliet. When all this Twilight insanity broke loose, Rob did not have any of that. So, he didn't have the luxury of taking anytime off. He had to strike while the iron was hot and he is. He's trying to build a body of work (Remember Me, Bel Ami, hopefully Water For Elephants, Unbound Captives) while riding out this hurricane he's found himself in. Not an easy thing to do at all. I would bet that had he already been an established actor when Twilight hit, like DiCaprio, he would have gone underground, surfacing only when he had to do another Twilight film.
ReplyDeleteAnd don't be surprised that once Twilight it through and he's got a few more films under his belt, that he doesn't take a break himself. Maybe a break of a year or two. I personally think he's gonna need it.
BTW...even though this comic book thing is not a Summit deal, you can still bet your house they've got a promotions clause in their original contracts. Which is why they ended up on that ridiculous Hot Topic Mall tour and him having to attend Wal Mart's 5:30 am corporate meeting to shill DVD's. Something interesting I've noticed though this time around (for New Moon)...
Not as much cheesy promotion. Well. Their stardom has made them indespensible to the franchise and being in that position does give them a little bit more say in how they are going to be used to continue selling this franchise.
But as for fans and the 'unauthorized' gang...not a whole hell of alot they can do about that. Unless they go to far and do something to actually defame him. Then he could -and might- go after them.
Hi, Marna! Got a reply back from the ff author I mentioned on the other thread---interesting perspective. She admitted a need for validation and storyline approval---otherwise, if no one is reading, why would she bother.
ReplyDeleteMy conclusion is that the perpetual story-draggers are writing for sport, as an ongoing endeavor (not a means to an ends, say, a completed story).
This actually explains a lot of abandoned work, again, IMO. If some authors aren't getting their per chapter "feedback fix", they stop writing. Or if they hit a peak, they stop because a) it takes too much effort to finish and b) quit while you're ahead.
None of which is wrong/bad, it's just a bit frustrating to have to offer reviews every single chapter to encourage an author to continue. ; )
Kind of like pay toilets... Don't think so.
LOL Gwen, Kind of like pay toilets that keep getting stopped up!
ReplyDeleteExactly, Marna! LOL!!! ; ) Oh, well.
ReplyDeletenikola6
ReplyDeleteYour words truly impressed me and inspire me. I agree with you, especially, about the careers of Leo and Rob. Thanks.
Funny thing - there is a facebook page that is listed as Rob P is ugly (that's just mean) and they have 200K members but the main person posting keeps asking people to send ugly pictures of Rob and apparently they aren't doing it...........hmmmmmm wonder why???
ReplyDeletefemroc
ReplyDeleteReally!!! What a joke! Never could understand that type of unkind behavior myself.
LMFAOOOOOOO @ UNIMPLOYED
ReplyDeletenuff said
femroc
ReplyDeleteBesides,has anyone ever seen an ugly picture of Rob??? Didn't think so!!!
Jules..what did I tell ya....
ReplyDeleteThank you jc,
ReplyDeleteThat was a very lovely thing to say and I appreciate it.
And yeah as I said before, my spelling is atrocious and that's because I don't stop to edit. I just type.
Fortunately, writers don't have to be good spellers. However, they do have to have good editors.
God bless the editors.
@Nik-"Darlin'" Is my word..don't get it confused..if ur country then ur country Darlin'..don't try to get it confused :)
ReplyDeleteUr a very thought felt and and affable writer..but yet u can't spell unemployed?..maybe if u read the paper..u'll see enough of the word to understand it..I think may haps u need to read a bit more on the subject..just alil bit..and if u wanna use my words and or speech..I'll ask you first for a fuckin contract..kk numbwit?
ReplyDeletecomic crap that what it is,no need to say more.
ReplyDeleteWhat difference does it makes if Rob is ugly or beautiful? I don''t love him just for his perfect face ;)BTW he is not perfect that's what makes him perfect. His "perfectness" is not ordinary that's why some people can't see it. You have to have a that special "eye" to see the gorgeous features and the brain attached to it!
FILTM even if he was ugly ;)
nikola6
ReplyDeleteI was upset and your words gave me strenght. I think Rob deserves all the love and support we can give.
Nik,
ReplyDeleteYou know I heart you....
@Kemberly, Your avi messing with my mind,(don't)change it pls.
ReplyDeleteI'm surprised that people are objecting to this comic book story of Rob. Maybe I am just so hungry for any word about him, photographs, updates on what he is doing, that even a comic book sounds good to me. I just can't help but think that if he weren't so awesome they wouldn't even want to do this, so I don't see it as a joke or something bad at all. Maybe I am missing something.
ReplyDelete@annie- don't worry..I won't DARLIN' ;)
ReplyDeleteNikola6, I'm not sure he would even want to get away from it all if he could. He seems to love acting and has stated that he can get away from all of the nonsense when he is working. He forgets about the screaming girls and the papparazi when he is working. He has his eye on a long term career as an actor and these are great opportunities for him. So, it seems to me that he is very philosophical (if a bit embarrassed) by all of the attention, but is using it to his advantage because under all the shy awkwardness that is so endearing, is a smart guy with a goal.
ReplyDeleteThanks RPattzgirl. And to the rest who are always so kind...thank you. As for others...everyone is entitled to their opinions or their games or whatever. I can choose to get into the mix or ignore it. I choose to ignore it because I don't want to expend my energy (and playtime here) on something that has absolutely no importance of bearing upon my life. No one can hurt you unless you let them. And if they can't get the reaction they're looking for, the school of thought is, they'll eventually get bored and stop. Pretty simple. Although I'm not a complete doormat and I do have a line in the sand that can get my irish up if crossed (and that usually involves if someone else I like is getting slapped at) But until then...nah. Not worth the time.
ReplyDeleteAnd agreed Sharon...
I don't think he's looking to run away right now either and that's because, all of these doors are NOW being opened to him. What I meant was, if he had already been an established actor, having been working steadily for a couple of years, he might have then (when this tsumani hit him in the face) have taken a break from it.
And I believe (just my opinion) that he will take that break as soon as he feels he can. And it could be a long one of a year or two. That's not surprising as alot of actors take that kind of time off, especially after a long haul of work.
I have a friend who is Hugh Jackman crazy and she's going nuts because his last film was Wolverine this past spring and his next film isn't slated to come out until sometime in 2011. From the time he finished Wolverine in 2008 to when he goes back in front of the cameras for his next film, it will have been nearly two years. Like I said, she's going nuts.
When Rob takes his breaks, we'll go nuts too.
@nik,nooooooooo no break for Rob. We all go crazy and might do things that's not so good or legal.
ReplyDeleteNik,
ReplyDeleteBlogs are like assholes, everyone has at least one. **hugs**
Aww rpattzgirl...
ReplyDeleteThat's true. But the flipside of that is, we all need assholes because without them, we'd die. LOL! Oh dear.
Maybe we just need to define 'asshole'...
1) a most essential part of the human anatomy without which, our bowels would burst through our abdomens and we'd all end up looking like that guy from 'Alien'. Minus the...uh...alien.
2) people who like to stir up shit here, there and everywhere because they're annoyed, bored, pissed to holy hell, think it's funny, frustruated 'cause they can't get laid proper or just because they can. Who knows?
Either definition...were dealing with a load of shit.
Hugs back atcha' sweetie.
Nik,
ReplyDeleteLMFAO!
ohhh rob in everyway lol FILTM
ReplyDeleteI still say theyre spot on cept for the Haya. WTF! how can they possibly screw up RObs sig look? Sex hair,smoldering eyes,cherry lips,jawporn. Get it right people! chop! chop!
ReplyDeleteWe all just cannot get enough of Robert Pattinson, he is like chocolate...so yummy, mmmmmm.
ReplyDelete