I was reading the comments under the article and I would like to explain something: The interviewer, MR. Hundić is Croatian and I'm sure the interview is NOT fake. He was there, in LA, during the press junket, he was sent there by distributor for the Adriatic region (Slovenia, Croatia and some other countries), BLITZ FILM.
But he is probably not the ultimate Twilight fan and he wasn't paying attention to every single word Rob said and that's why maybe there are some small "mistakes" or inconsistencies in the article. I am also positive that he doesn't give a d*** about Robsten or Nonsten and that he didn't search for hidden meaning about their relationship in Rob's answers.
The word "white" was used, but not in a racist meaning. (we don't use Caucasian in Europe or at least in my part of Europe). It was a little strange use of the word, but I didn't want to change anything, since it was a translation and not my article.
I tried to do the best job possible, but as I said before, English is not my first language and I haven't studied it in university so I may have made a mistake translating, but I don't think so, because I was extra careful.
From Mateja Košir, Vikend, editor in chief:
I know that you might think that, since some Slovenian media will unscrupulously print "borrowed" interviews or generic ones that one can get for any of the films distributed in Slovenia. But Vikend does not print any of those generic interviews and when we claim that we have conducted an interview, we actually mean it. The interview with Robert Pattinson (and the one with Kristen Stewart we'll print this week) is a genuine interview. It was conducted at the time and in the manner stated. This is an authentic interview which can be verified further by the Blitz Film distribution that bought the rights for Slovenia and nominated Stjepan Hundić for the interview in Los Angeles press junket. Vikend has a circulation of up to 200.000, which is not unsubstantial even when compared to some foreign media, as in the USA they tend to be more regional newspapers than national. After it is published in Vikend, this interview is subsequently published online and sold to other media in Croatia, Serbia and Romania. We get many invitations to interviews like that - sometimes they are hard to get, sometimes they are not - and you know, sometimes they also charge for them.
Kind regards and don't miss this Friday (or Saturday) edition of Vikend to see the Kristen Stewart interview :-)
Mateja Košir, Vikend, editor in chief
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maybe this will calm some of the people that went batshit crazy over that interview saying everything from its fake to that's not a legit magazine etc.
i think we should all just be thankful that we're getting this interviews and whatnot and try to enjoy Rob and his work instead of trying to analyze every single word he says.
I couldn't say it any better Dilia! The US is not the only country where Rob gave interviews ;o)and all foreign press are not gossip or tabloïds ;o)
Awesome clarification Dilia!! I loved the interview and am glad that it is not a fake.
OF course there are legit interviews outside US too. That is why they did the whirlwind promo tour for NM. Nice of the author of this interview to anser Darja's enquiry and again thanks to Darja for checking this further too!
I think the drought is making some ppl overanalyze just about every itty detail maybe hehe...hey we've all been there to some degree, me included *points to self*
Thanks girls :) And as I said in that post #DebateTillYouDie :))
Dilia, I heart you! You made my day. Let's just enjoy Rob and his awkward adorable interviews. They always make me smile.
And people have to stop bashing other countries, which because of their own fault, are not aware of.
Plus, Gozde, this site is amazing and people trust you and your updating schedule - so that's why they send you information, so it is excellent that you posted this as well. :)
there was really only one poster yesterday that got us all stirred up. Normally, we would just breeze over the answers and not analyze too much. You could litterally drive yourself crazy looking for contradictions in all the different interviews Rob gave.
I still think there were some errors in the interview. the war with the humans, 9 bodyguards, Rob saying they are just friends. I won't be quoting this interview anytime soon, but nice of them to confirm that they did talk to Rob in person, just didn't listen closely to what he said..ha ha...
oops sorry, not supposed to analyze every word. Ignore me.
Darja
You did an awesome job..people just try to read too much crap into stuff and try to make it fit their own feelings...
Thanks again!
I am glad this is not a fake; and i think he didn`t deny anything..and i believe R and K are together.
Thanks Darja! And don't you apologize for your English, it's awesome, and I for one couldn't say one word in your language, so you will never hear me criticize anyone whose first language is not English. I'm amazed that you did not study it in school, that makes it even more impressive!!
As for all the batshit crazies. Meh. I'm I don't give a crapsten, and follow Goz's motto.
@Dilia, well said.
I think she did a great job translating the interview. I know I wouldn't feel comfortable translating anything to be put on a public website - especially one as popular as this!!!
It doesn't matter what he did or didn't say, people are going to read into it what they want. I read someone else compare it to reading your horoscope - you get out of it based on your life and your experiences. Same thing (in broader terms) with Rob's interviews.
And people have to stop bashing other countries
I hear you. Just because an interview is not printed in the American mass media doesnt mean its not legit.
What do some people think? That other countries have no press? Seriously!
And that discussion was a serious case of overanalyzing. If you start to twist and turn someones words around like that you get the biggest pile of crap ever. :D
Forgot to add:
Big cuddos to Darja for translating this!!!
Darja,
It was wonderful of you to take the time and effort to translate. Don't let anyone put you down or make you feel inadequate!
Thank you Darja for all your work on this, and again I apologize for being harsh yesterday. It was an ungenerous professional reaction out of place on this blog. Mea culpa. Your English is excellent for a non-native speaker (that was never the issue in my mind).
Once again, the old adage proves true: the devil is in the details. Especially when we don't get the words directly from the horse's mouth, analyzing every single word Rob says is futile... and will drive us all to distraction!
Well, I don't know my issue but hope this is posted.
Sorry it was necessary to clarify but thanks and especially to Darja for her translation.
It's funny how Rob has said several times that they are just friends, and no one believes it. I guess they'll have to write it in their own blood for everyone to believe.... I still have reservations about it. Sometimes I think they are together, sometimes not. It's like when he says they're only friends...then there's a pic of them holding hands. It's always so contradictory. Maybe that's how they like it! Keeping us all guessing til when?? After BD?? I don't think I'll be able to hang on that long!
aw, I feel like the majority believed the translation was fine and that the interview was real.
I don't think it's offensive to either the translator or the magazine editor though to point out that Robert's answers to the KS question are always nuanced--BY DESIGN. Nuanced to the point that people speaking the langugage as he speaks can't even agree to the inferences of his answers.
Now add on questions being translated to him, his answers being translated back, and then the article being translated back again...
Will some of the nuance be lost in translation? Almost a given. I've done translating as a part of major in college, nuance is almost always lost in some form when you translate.
That's nothing against the translator, or the magazine editor, it's just the nature of the process.
darja thanks for the translation it's awesome to meet people from diferents countries who care about rob's career i'm from Quito-Ecuador and i also care about rob he's such a great boy i mean MAN! and about this interview i only could send this youtube video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chFtEiQL5b4
Here you can hear the dude ask rob about kristen friendship! OK friendship!!
ps: and nuanced not because I think it's on or not with those two, but because they don't want to clarify. There are reasons for why they wouldn't want to clarify, both nonshippy and shippy.
LOL I didn't know that the interview posted yesterday caused a stir, lol again. I think the reason for that, is that Robert actually gave an answer, like he used to do before, about him and Kristen. And that some people/fans just couldn't stand that Robert might have denied robsten in a legit interview!
And I think the reason that he gave an answer to this interviewer is because he probably feels more comfortable with a foreign interviewer, where people aren't as obsessed with him and Kristen and getting them together, as there are some here in the U.S.
And while this is a little off topic, but I've also noticed that he tends to be more open and just himself when Kristen isn't around him in interviews (I'm not blaming Kristen, this has nothing to do with her. And I'm liking her, ever since her recent improved interviews. So my observation about Robert has nothing to do with her. This clarification is for those Kristen fans who simply can't take anyone mentioning Kristen if they aren't gushing over her, so I say to them relax).
I'm simply stating what I have observed about him. When she is around in interviews, he closes up to a certain extent. I don't know why that happens.
He is at his most charming, honest and witty self when he does solo interviews.
Man, I've got to go check that thread out. I posted in it yesterday, just stating that I thought the interview was good. But I didn't go back to check all the other posts, I didn't think it would cause a stir... I should have known lol.
Now I shall go entertain myself by reading the posts I missed.
And last but not least I do have a question, when was this interview conducted? Was it during the NM promotional tour?
pssst...Steph---my hussband lived in Guayaquil for two years! :)
So the distributor was the door opener, as I said, there had to be a bigger name. And forgive me for being suspicious but we had serious magazines and newspapers printing faked interviews with celebs a couple of years ago over here. The interviewer fooled them for quite a long time. People loved to read those interviews because never was Angelina Jolie smarter and funnier, Madonna wiser etc. etc... too bad, they never met him. He used quotes from interviews with other magazines or made them up completely. Two chief editors lost their jobs because of this well-known "Hollywood reporter".
So thanks, Darja, for the clarification.
By the way, I never said Vikend was a gossip or a tabloid.
I gave a thumbs to the Darja and the article yesterday, my conscience is clean.lol
I do want to say though, this isn't about bashing other countries if you think they wouldn't get the exclusive on the relationship questions.
Public relations isn't about what's fair, or equality.
Public relations is about building up and maintaining a certain image for mass consumption. It's about effectively influencing how you distribute your message and image to the public.
People want to know if K/R are schtupping. The answer is tightly guarded, not by K/R alone, but Summit has its hand on this as well. Take one look at the blonde summitt bulldog barking at Ryan Seacrest at the LA premiere, and you got your answer.
That answer is what every publication in the world would like an exclusive on.
If Robert chose to answer that question definitively, he would use the most influential, reputable, Robert-friendly source available to him.
As in Vanity Fair.
Which he only gave a vague denial in, and the author questioned how much weight to put stock in it.
It's not bashing other countries to point out that if Vanity Fair can't even get the exclusive when it offered the most efficent way to diffuse the information, no one else is likely to get the exclusive either.
I still say everyone was is being honest and fair, and I think this article's answer by Robert simply sounds along the lines of the Vanity Fair answer. The divide I'm still banking on being due to inferences being lost in translation somewhat. If this was the exclusive that the whole world is waiting for, it would be broadcasted around the world. People want the definitive answer that's all there is to it.
@ Angela: No, it wasn't only me who had doubts, others had them, too.
No way did Rob give this interviewer the answer to the Robsten question. C'mon, he's avoided answering the question for months and didn't answer it during the worldwide NM press tour, so why would he give some hole-in-the wall foreign magazine the exclusive? That's just foolish to believe that.
I said yesterday that I thought something was lost in translation on this interview, & I still think that. I'm not saying the the people who translated it did a bad job, I think they did a great job. I just think that sometimes a word doesn't translate well from one language to another & that makes a big difference. In this case, a Croatian interviewed an Englishman (who is know for his jokey answers)in America about something he wasn't really interested in & wrote the article in ?(not sure what language). That was then translated by Darja (who did a wonderful job) into English. There is no way that all of his answers came over how he meant them. That includes him saying they were just friends.
hey karina nice to meet you and i hope your husband enjoyed Guayaquil it's an amzing city! just like Quito
And like you said before: "NAUNCED by DESING"!! I love kristen and rob equally and i really think that rob and kristen are just GREAT friends!!
Let's all wait and see if she goes to London for Christmas....do you all think that will be the proof they are together?? I'm dying to see if this happens!
They are hard to peg whether they are together or not, of if they aren't exactly one or the other.
Christmas is for family and friends. And Robert is allegedly looking into buying a house in LA. If he does that, it would make more sense, if there even is something and they want to keep it somewhat private, for them to meet up on her home turf.
Je ne suis pas étonnée que vous pensez que c'est faux! vous voulez tellement qu'ils soient ensemble que vous croyez que c'est faux! Kristen a raison ils démentent et personne les croit! pour ma part je les crois!
Someone in another blog said it best.
would people say it was a fake and a wrong translation if the magazine had him saying that they were in fact dating.
im neutral on the whole R/K business, i mean i love their work and enjoy all the interviews/photoshoots/apperances etc and i admit i am curious to know what the deal is, but i dont really care that much cause i DONT feel like is any of our(the fans) business.
Dilia, that's so true. I hadn't thought about it that way.
When that VF article came out I couldn't believe the uproar by the Robsten supporters. I saw atleast 3 petitions online to replace Rob as Edward, amongst other negative things. Thank goodness the HB article and pics were "leaked" 2 days later. Talk about damage control.
Personally, I live by Gozde's philosophy and he is definitely not shagging me so I really don't give a crapsten.
Karina, Rosa, and Phos- I totally agree.
Vita- We are definitely aware of that country, BUT NOT THE MAGAZINE. That's the point. There have been too many magazines misquoting and out right making up things Rob never said. Rob just talked about this himself in a recent interview about that "I can't get a date" comment. He said he NEVER said that. And other quotes that were said when he was younger. So it definitely didn't relate to his life now.
THERE IS NO WAY THAT IT'S A GOOD THING TO NOT QUESTION SOMETHING WHEN IT SOUNDS COMPLETELY OFF. If we never did, we would still believe right now that Rob stinks, never showers, never washes his hair, he had a drug overdose, he was hit by the cab,etc...
I said yesterday thanks for the translation. And I still believe Rob isn't going to give "THE ANSWER" to a hugely unknown magazine.
AND LET ME ADD THIS:
In the US we are taught to question everything. So it's ingrained in us from an early age. Our teachers tell us to raise our hands and ask whatever question is on our minds. Because you never know who is thinking the same thing. There are people who are just as confused as you are. This is a very good thing So we BOLDLY LIFT OUR HANDS UP!!!
And what's that saying from Kennedy or Roosevelt? If you never (something) you will fall for anything.
I don't blame people for not believing interviews are legit anymore because he keeps denying any sort of romance between them but then you see pics like the ones fron Paris and it makes you go like "oh really?" lol The Robsten game won't end, never. Whatever float their boats, that my motto.
Dilia-I would totally say the same thing if he confirmed.
My take is this- Robert and Kristen are neither confirming OR denying.
In other words, any confirmation or denial that pops up randomly in interviews don't really fly to me.
Not because anyone is being a liar either. This happens a lot in the foreign papers- we've seen confirmations and denials before. And each time I've dismissed them, simply because Robert and Kristen(and Summit, don't forget them!) are not giving either one.
It has nothing to do with my personal guesses, it has to do with the game plan that is in place here, and with how PR works.
This isn't a standard quesiton, like what is your favorite color. It's a question that people would pay made money to get the exclusive for, either in photograph or in statement.
re: VF to by the way. Both VF and HB leaked that they both got the exclusive. VF leaked they had a denial. HB swore they had a confirmation.
You see both magazines actual articles, you get weak ass answers. lol
VF had "friends" and added a just, then then the author basically says she doesn't know if it's true based on their behavior and age.
HB doesn't even ask them point blank, instead hedges around playing goofy newlywed games.
Both didn't deliver, and when both didn't deliver, it became quite clear the question is not going to be answered.
There will be moments that support for, and moments that support against, them together. And that's the whole point---everyone cares too much, and they are just gonna let everyone live in their own realities. lol
Shani, thanks a lot for insulting all foreign people in this board! I can not believe that you among all people will insult someone else just for being from a different condition, and that includes me (I’m foreign)..
For your information, it isn’t only in the US that you are taught to question everything; and I could mention many things that your country has showed lack to questioning in the latest years, specially during Bush administration. But all that things have nothing to do with something as shallow as the possible relationship between celebs, if they may be together or not, since it is their deal not ours, and if they actually are or not, if they decide to confirm or deny, that it is their busyness!!..
Questioning the veracity of article just because it doesn´t say what some would like to hear is just a waist of time; please do something more use full with your time; like questioning what our governments tell us using the media or the economics measures taken, etc etc… or if that is too much or the brain, then question with the same passion articles like OK!, Life & Style, etc etc.
Rosa, like I said, I don't care either way. I simply refuse to spend my time arguing and speculating about the love life of a 19 yr girl when I'm 29 myself. Eff that!
My reason for mentioning VF & HB was to demonstrate how the fandom went nuts over the alleged denial, and the immediate response with supposed confirmation. Regardless of the truth, releasing the HB photos quelled all the backlash that had begun against Rob for his VF interview. All anyone talked about were those pics and how they played "the newly wed game". The Robsten supporters stopped vilifying Rob. That was my only point.
Jules-I wasn't actually answering you, I was answering lovesrob from up top about reportedly giving a bunch of denials.
Others think they've given confirmations.
I'm simply stating both sides care too much either way, and aren't seeing the bigger picture - that they aren't confirming or denying on purpose.
That has nothing to do with the reality of their situation, just the reality of how they are presenting their relationship to the public.
OK Rosa, no worries. I'd mentioned both VF & HB so I felt the need to clarify my position.
Off to bed now. G'night.
Mech- What insult??? *my poor little brain didn't understand you* ROTFLMAO
Anyway, I'm not talking about the realtionship. We were talking about the translation in general. Through translation you miss the small things. The guy even said he didn't hear everything. And I was talking to Vita trying to make her understand that Americans do know about Slovenia. (THAT'S INSULTING RIGHT THERE)And there are foreign countries where the teacher is not questioned as aggressively as here in the US. THAT'S MY POINT.
BUSH??? I never liked Bush. So you and I totally agree on that front.LOL
Shani, I can't see the insult either - and I'm not from the US either. I wonder if that makes me a "foreigner" on a blog, run by an American, a Turkish and an Irish woman. ;-)
Phos- THANK YOU!!!! :)
Well Shani, I found insulting your entire, "we are taught to questions things" as if there is certain superiority remark in that, and the truth is that as if questioning an article like this or the translation of this or the fact the reporter was paying or not attention, all for a couple of words that doesn´t fit what is wanted to fit.
And Jules, you are right. I just find it hilarious the way some people live viciously through this possible relationship between two celebs. As if life depended knowing if they are or not together and nothing contradicting that.
Mech- You will never understand. It's called facts,not half truths, or out right lies. I've been saying EVERYTHING that is said in an interview should be questioned. That is all. And as you have read the new article on the first page people are questioning the copy and paste quotes from that article too. The main thing I'm trying to convey is that you can NOT trust what is said in magazines. If you want to continue to believe every word that's reported. That's you. But the rest of us will continue to question and do our research. THE END
@ D.M.
the press junket was in L.A. before they went to Europe, Japan... I think it was from 5. - 8. Nov.
/approximately, I don't remember exact dates/
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