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97 comments:
Going to see it tomorrow for the 2nd time, so excited, can't wait!!!
Saw it againg yesterday. Loved it again. went with my 18 year old niece, her 17 yr old friend and my sister in law. They all loved it too. All cried during the breakup scene. They all said it was sooo sad. I don't know what people are talking about Kristen not crying. She had tears streaming down her face while she was stumbling around in the woods. She cried when Alice showed up, and she cried when she said she would let Edward go during the reunion. She did a wonderful job in this movie. And I'll say it again, Rob showed Edward's devestation to perfection, and his regret.
I've seen it twice now with two of my adult children (sons) and we have all thought it was a great movie!!!! Well worth the wait!
Saw it for the first time last night and omg I loved it.rob was absolutely freaking amazing.he just gets edward perfectly, thats exactly the way i imagined edward in my head furing new moon, that perfect mix of devotion devestation and regret!when he proposed i melted when he explained himself i italy i melted when he begged for forgiveness i melted and when he crushed the phone i just about died!yeah a lot of melting but what can i say he just has that effect on me!cant wait for the proposal scene in eclipse i might not survive it!god what a way to go!!!
Two things: luved the oh so cheesy but funny elevator scene, especially the music, and kudos to Robert for having basically one costume throughout the entire movie. Didn't think he could do it...heh, heh.
Just watched it again last night. Still loving it! Again, hats off to Kristen Stewart, who totally owned the movie. She killed it. Rob in that breakup scene, the expression on his face in the forehead kiss, heartbreaking. Loved the humor, i found myself laughing a lot in the Jacob/Bella scenes and the human scenes. Favorite kiss definitely the parking lot kiss
My 3rd time last night... And each time is better.
I wad more relaxed the 2nd & 3rd time and was able to just enjoy it without expectations..
Rob was perfection, and him asking her forgivness in the bedroom.. Died....
Kristen was perfect.... and honestly never more beautiful than in this movie.
Taylore won me over big time... Instead of hating Jacob like I did in the book, my heart broke for him as well..
And, I will quit bashing the music because it's perfect in the movie...
The whole Harry heart attack, victoria & the wolves & Bella jumping was brilliant film making..
I'm going again tonight!!
Saw it yesterday for the first time but my experience was ruined by a) the heating was out in cinema, b) some girls texting and c) some drunk bloke talking throughout and laughing during the break up scene ("I'm coming" "I don't want you to come"). I mean, come on - who pays €9 to get into a cinema and doesn't bother watching the film! The lighting in the cinema was also way too bright so made the screen so dark and fuzzy I couldn't make out Edwards expression when he got the phonecall. GRRR! Anyway, moan over - I'm going to see it again on Thursday so hopefully I'll have a better experience then.
Anyway, because of the distractions I felt a bit deflated when I left the cinema. I don't know if I had higher expectations because of the overkill of trailers and sneak peak scenes but I felt like it could have been so much better. Don't get me wrong, it's still a fab movie - I'll see it countless times, buy the DVD and play it endlessly on my ipod but there were too many things that just made me feel uncomfortable.
I loved the floaty feeling of twilight and it felt like this was just too heavy fisted - I think it's trying too hard to be a big budget all singing/dancing visual-fest that so many of the subtleties of the original film were lost. Mind you kudos to Chris Weitz on the Volturi scenes - the werewolf scenes and the panoramic shots, it's truly breathtaking. Bella, Edward & Jacob are all fantastic, you really feel the angst and desolation.
Oh I don't know - I think because of the nature of the books, the films need a woman's touch (or at the very least a man who's in touch with his feminine side!). New Moon really feels like it has a man at the helm which is maybe not a bad thing to reel in the male audiences.
Anyway, that's my tuppence worth, maybe I'll appreciated it more 2nd time round!
Hi Rpattzgirl! -waves-
I'm so glad to read that at least a small bunch of people here seem to like this movie. All the bad reviews from the last few days make me feel so sad, they are almost killing me :(.
loubytee- I felt deflated too when I left but since then I've had a change of heart. I realize now that I really did love the Edward scenes.
The same things I didn't like in the book are what I didn't like in the movie, the absence of Edward, the focus on the the wolves. I really think Stephanie Myer abandoned Edward a bit in the books to explore Jacob, which bothers me, but it's her fantasy so whatever...
But if I think about it, I realize there are some very special moments with Edward int he movie and some of the things he says are just magical.
I loved it when he said "I'll protect you from everything, except my sister" and I love just being in his presence.
So, I'll go back again and I'm sure i'll like it better now that I've digested it.
pet73- I think some of the other negative reviewers will change their mind too after they see it again.
Ohhhh YES!!! Loved when Edward smiled when Bella slammed into him and he said Heaven.
I'm going to echo the comments here already - it was a great movie! I went with my boyfriend on Friday who hasn't read the books, (but has had to put with me going on about for months) and he said it was slow! How rude! I did say he should read the book! ;-)
There are no complaints from me about the movie- I thought Kirsten stepped up her performance, as much as the script allowed. Liked the "couger" line - made it up to date and relevant.
Taylor was the stand out perfomance for me though. I thought he nailed it!
Rob was perfect in the break up scene - achingly good!
I was surprised though at how much I had already seen of the movie (spoilers and pics). Next time I'm gonna take a leaf out of Gozde's book and avoid spoilers (if I possibly can!).
P.S. Hi Pet73! Lost your email address - gah!
I'll repost this one here.
I loaned my 4 book set to a friend so I can't check this myself...BUT...the last line in the movie (not posting due to MAJOR spoiler) wasn't that from the Eclipse book???
I remember the scene from NM with Jacob, Bella and Edward being different. But that very last line, I thought came from the end of Eclipse.
Hi Pet73!!!
Yes I loved it! But it took the 2nd time seeing it to stop caring about what was missed...
For those feeling that way, please see it a 2nd time.. I swear it gets better everytime!!!
Amanda R,
if you're talking about the "marry me" Bella, no.. He makes that a condition in new moon first, then the"real" proposal comes in eclipse
@pining,
I know I almost didn't finish reading nm becuase of Jacob.. But taylor brought it big time....
Although I think I'll go back to hating him in eclipse because of his constant manipulation of Bella ..
Okay, I saw it twice last night, back to back. I thought it was great, even more so the second time, but I did have a few issues.
Firstly, I was massively disappointed to see that things from the trailers weren't in the movie. Particularly the part where Jacob grabs her and says 'He left you Bella, he doesn't want you anymore'. To me that was so much more emotional that the way it was done in the final cut.
Second, I really wish there was more wolf pack. It just seems like such an integral part of the story line got the back burner.
Overall I absolutely loved it and the acting was practically oscar worthy in comparison to the first one. CW made a gorgeous film and I give him kudos for that. Do I wish things weren't as rushed and Jacob wasn't made to be so erratic? Yes. Will I still go see it 5 more times? Damn straight.
I gotta admit though, there were so many parts where I almost busted up laughing because I had stupid parodies running through my head. Like Laurant the rastabortionist and Edward hiding behind a tree when he leaves and Bella being all like 'Edward, I can still see you'. Oh well :)
Saw it for the 2nd time and was wide awake not midnight sleepy. I will adjust my previous review to say that I did it enjoy it more this time because I was able to focus on the details. Rob Pattinson is a the most beautiful man I've ever seen and I can't wait to get the DVD so that I can pause on his scenes which is what I did with The Haunted Airman (in which Rob is ethereally & outrageously gorgeous). I was able to pinpoint some of the emotion that I felt was missing during the first viewing. I still think the segments of E/B were missing alot of the important dialogue and passion, but I feel better after having seen it the 2nd time. I love the soundtrack and am waiting for Rob's music release which I hope will be forthcoming very soon. Love all the characters and thought Kristen looked very beautiful. If she is dating Rob, then I hate her with the burning fire of a thousand suns (just kidding {not}). Synopsis: Much etter the 2nd time around and so glad we have it (but still not as fulfilling as Twilight).
I saw it for the second time last night. My daughter went with me both times. We both liked it the first time and both thought it was even better on the second viewing. My favorite parts: The passing of the seasons after Edward leaves...that was genius the way they handled that! And Kristen was great in that part. I loved the parking lot kiss (well, loved all the kisses, but that one was especially nice). I thought Taylor nailed his part! He's a really good actor. I loved the humor; Emmett's older woman comment, Edward's "you can't trust vampires...trust me." lol...I thought Jasper was extremely weird in this one, not even gonna touch the hair...I also thought the running thru the meadow scene when Aro touches Alice was unintentionally funny! the whole theater laughed at that one. It's just so random! lol Rob did so good as Edward, he nailed all the emotions and I liked that he smiled more in this one. Overall, loved it! I'm sure I'll be going back several more times to see it before it leaves the theater.
Amanda- FYI- In the book NM, he says "marry me" after the vote and after discussing the time frame for the change.(in the movie, they tag it on to the end of the Jacob scene that ends the NM book)
At the end of Eclipse, they are in the meadow and he puts the ring back on her finger before they go talk to charlie.
So, "marry me" is from NM, but I did notice when he says "Jacob Black can give you presents?" That line is from Eclipse referring to the bracelet.
I also noticed lots of scenes from the trailers not in the movie and the music was different from the trailers.
rpattzgirl, I actually liked Jake in NM because he was so sweet to Bella, but I thought he was a jerk in Ecliplse too, for the same reason. I was pretty annoyed with Bella too for letting him get away with it most of the time.
I loved it I loved it! I've already seen 3 times! (I'll have to wear a hoodie for my 4th or change theaters or they will think I'm crazy if they ever recognize me - whcih is not likely yet as every session is packed! even the morning ones!)... It keeps getting better and better... Now one thing is true; the audience around you can ruin the film for you, my first time was badly spoiled by squealing pre-teens. I loved everything in it, the acting is great, I just don't know why people are unhappy with Rob and/or Kristen's acting. The only thing I sincerely disliked is Alexandre Desplat's cheesy over-emotional music, it almost killed some crucial scenes for me (aaah - the reunion scene - how could they drown it in this awful lame music?). I'll wait to see if teh score grows on me with time, but I doubt it - it's pure violin overkill! But - anyway guys - go back, see it again and again, as you probably did with Twilight, you will love NM even more every time!
This may be a stupid question - but were the meadow scenes the same footage as the first movie or did they reshoot it or just changed it with special effects (i.e. more flowers, etc)??
I went to see it on Friday with my bf (who thinks that the movie is a bit slow too...) and I really liked it, it's pretty faithful to the book (hated the black suv tho!) and the visual effects are awesome but DUBBING SUCKS!! All the scenes I already knew from the trailers looked so plain and shallow, I would have enjoyed it a lot more if I watched it in English. It may be ok for the general audience but true fans would rather watch it in English, even with subtitles perhaps, but Rob should NEVER be dubber over!! Arghh!!
I didn't like Bella's ride on the bike in Port Angeles. They needed to introduce the bike stuff somehow but that seemed a bit out of character for Bella to me.
I think they all did a great job and the wolf pack was really cool.
I've just watched the RM trailer and I can't wait to see it!! It's gonna be mind blowing much more than twilight for me. Finally Rob looks and acts like a real man LOL sexy :)
@ Angela, I'm kinda with you, the more I dwell on it after the initial deflated feeling I'm starting to pick up on the good bits. There a a few one liners posted here that I totally missed (probably because of the eejit talking through it)!
Also, it annoyed me too that SM gave so much print space in the books to Jacob's point of view - I'd have been far more interested in Edward's side of events (the break-up, tracking Victoria etc). NM was my least favourite of the books because of the Jacob thing, however the film and Taylor especially handles this much better than the book, doesn't feel as tedious!
loubytee- I think SM had a indian boy werewolf fantasy to contrast her Edward fantasy, but really, all we need is the Edward fantasy. For me, everything could be from Eddie's POV, like midnight sun and i'd be happy.
samantha- I am a total geek and I analyzed the two meadow shots next to eachother and I determined that they did GO BACK and re-shoot it for New Moon. Bella's shoes are slightly different and her sweater hangs slightly different, but they did a good job of re-creating it. THe flowers are totally different.
@Samantha,
they re-shot the meadow scene for new moon... The colors are more vibrant and of course Edwards sparkles are a 1000 times better in this movie
Haystack,
I cant wait to see Edward & Jake go at it in Eclipse!
Looking forward to leg hitch and the real proposal!!!
Oh and the meadow, right before Laurent, Kristin nailed the whole "holding herself to keep the hole from opening up" and falling to her knees. Just like I pictured it. Rob's face in front of the Volturi, pure devestation. Sigh.
@rpattzgirl Thanks! :)
Hello from Greece! I saw New moon yesterday! great movie!!!!Robert was perfect!!! The best actor!!! One of my best scenes was in Italy with Volturi vampires Rob one more time was perfect! Vampires make up was perfect in this movie their eyes was perfect too!!! I have no words to discribe this movie!!!
Haystack I know!! Edward in front of the volturi with tears in his eyes..Died....
And Bella finding the meadow all dried up and brown, like it died as well.... Seriously fucking brilliant!!
I don't know what picture all those critics and haters are watching! I thought this picture was good! Rob,Kristen and Taylor were good,the only boo boo was with Robs make-up when he was with the Volturi! Rob had his shirt off and you could see the make-up stopped under his chin, his neck and body was a different color! That was very tacky of them to leave that in the picture like that because it reminded me of "Twilight" which I love also! Other than that I wanted more Rob and less of Taylor!
@ RPG!! I did not go see it yet, but, for what you keep writing, I have a question (if you don't mind):
Is it like (well...) the first time you have sex with someone you are really in love/lust with? It is good, but a bit weird? And, then (oooh, then...) it just keeps getting A LOT BETTER???
"The merrer the better"??
Twilight was like that to me! :))
Saw it for the 2nd time last night - this time with hubby, and two 10-year old boys! (my son & friend - who LOVED it btw)
I loved loved LOVED this movie and it does get better each time you see it.
I think "they" (Chris Weitz!) have created a fantastically rich film visually and emotionally.
Haven't been a huge Kristen fan, but she was OUTSTANDING. I was so surprised by how much Taylor drew me into his character/performance.
Love some of the details, such as: did anyone notice the name of the airline when Bella & Alice fly to Italy? Virgin. lol
I totally want to know what Jacob said to Bella in Quileute right before he kissed her!! But check it out:
*** "Jacob’s line in Quileute
Posted on 23. Nov, 2009 by JulieAndJasper
For all of you wondering about the translation of Jacob’s line of New Moon dialogue spoken in Quileute, here’s something to make you wonder even more. ;) It was just posted on The Quileute Nation of LaPush, WA Fabebook page:
Dear Fans: Thank you for all the calls and emails regarding the scene in the movie where Jacob whispers to Bella in Quileute. Please know, we would love to translate the phrase for you, but out of respect for Jacob’s feelings for Bella we are unable to at this time.
Okay, say it with me now. Awwwwww. <3 I love this response." ***
@Jenna Thanks for mentioning that trailer thing. I was absolutely diappointed that the scene in the trailer where Jacob grabs Bella was missing. It was much more powerful and emotional than Jacob leaning into the car (the audience even laughed!).
And the Bella as vampire scene was just ridiculous and did not fit into the movie.
I would really like to know who made these decisions.
I was so antsy the the week of and the morning of the morning. I couldn't sit still and even though it was cold outside, I was clammy and sweaty. Overall, I was a total mess! About an hour after the movie ended, I completely crashed. The adrenaline had all run out and I was freezing and depressed and I pretty much wanted to curl up like Bella and die in the woods.
By reading what you all said, a second viewing is warranted because to me, Kristen Stewart did not do justice to the break-up scene. I know Bella is in shock, but it needed to be played out with a lot more emotion for the screen. I will have to see it again in a more composed state of mind.
And yes, everyone laughed at Alice's vision with Bella in a dress. It was kinda like "HAHAHAHA!" and then "Ooooooooh" when they saw her skin sparkling. I must say though that Rob is such a awkward lummox in that scene. He can't fake the fact that he's not athletic in the least bit. I love him wholeheartedly nonetheless and believe that it just adds to his adorableness.
Not seeing much of Edward (those visual hallucinations did NOT really help) really threw me off. I was always anticipating the next time he would come on screen instead of enjoying what was happening at that moment. I hated seeing him miserable and even paler (sallow and yellow almost) in color. Yeah, the scene where he thinks Bella is dead, I almost had an aneurysm. Rob is SUCH a gifted actor. I FELT what he was conveying.
@PrincessJenn, yes go again. I was keyed up the first time waiting to see what came next. I too missed Edward lots, just like in the book. Second time around was even better, and I totally LOVED it the first time.
Oops, make that one n on Jen. LOL. rpattzgirl AMEN sista on eclipse. the leg hitch. GAH. And lots of Edward and Bella love. Jakob, pffft.
@Crazy Vamp! ROTFLMAO!
Yes, perfect analogy!!!
I DIDN'T LIKE IT the first time I saw it, I saw it at a midnight viewing in the UK with a couple of mates. I found it too soppy and some bits made me really cringe, not like when I saw Twilight for the first time, i loved it! BUT I decided it needed a 2nd chance, I was to expectant the first time and didn't take it all in. The 2nd time I liked it more, and didn't find some scenes as cringe worthy. Then I went to see it today at lunch time, there was only about 20 people in the cinema! And it was amazing today, none of it made me cringe, Robert was gorgeous and I also had a lil tear in my eyes for 2 scenes, Bella jumping off the cliff cos Ed sounds so sad and she seems so desperate and When she stops him at the clock tower! LUSH!
How come it got better with each view? I don't get that! ha ha. Going with some mates who haven't yet see it on Thursday night, so will be like seeing it for the first time again :D wooooo
although this was taylors movie(according to everyone) i fell in love with Rob even more if that possible.i really hope i'm not the only one.proud team edward member.this movie was great.i'm planning to see it one more time.what i missed the most was "before you Bella..."line but never mind.one thing did bother me.edward s clothes.wth were they thinking?? i really liked him at the very beggining and at the end.i really liked how they played the breakup scene and the reunion.actually all the E/B scenes.just how i expected i did feel a little sorry for jacob but i was anxiously waiting for edward.hehe.all in all i liked the movie
Let me just say: NOT ENOUGH EDWARD. Yeah, yeah, it was true to the book then...
Went in with poor expectations after reading the critcs' bashings. So was pleasantly surprised at how much I LOVED all the first parts (the gran flashback -- the way he gives Bella a little half smile -- swoon!-- as they walk toward her; all the stuff at school and in the parking lot -swoon again.)
So the middle bit without Robward was a bit slow to me, though I felt sympathy for Jacob.
Hope to see a few more smiles from Edward and Bella during Eclipse.
New Moon wasn't a great movie. So cheesy. Stewart doesn't get Bella to me . When she creamed NOO ( the nighmare scene ).. It was SO ridiculous DAMN! When Edward left her , she was supposed to look SO sad, so desperate , so .. in love. NO EMOTION AT ALL. Rob as Edward .. He was so stoic all the time .. Which is great because Edward is always stoic ... But he had no REAL emotion in his voice.
Taylor did a .. nice job , although I hated that he had no t-shirt like.. All the time , how annoying.
I won't see Eclipse , I'm so OVER Twilight, as I said before, Rob is so much more than Twilight. He was superb in Little Ashes, absolutely adorkable in the Bad Mother's HandBook , he was great as Cedric, he was so dark in The haunted Man and he was ... ADORABLE,FUNNY..May I say British as Art!!
Remember Me will be the death of me , those sex scenes with Emilie are going to be so HOT OMG !
And his accent has improved and his acting.. Well.. he looks more than awesome..
i loved NM! it was amazzzzzing! am in london, and have watched it 4 times already, lol.
i thought rob acted edward's pain PERFECTLY! kristen is the star of the film IMO- her acting was amazing and nothiiiing compared to twlight! and taylor was soooo suprisignly good and im not even a fan! and as many of u have already said, in the books i hateee jacob, but in this movie my heart broke for him.
i went with one of my friends the last time and she hasnt read any of the books and has only watched twlight ONCE (i forced her to watch it, lol) and she said that it was an amazing movie, that she is team jacob AND edward and she hates bella for "using jacob"
at first i disagreed with her, cos in the book u never get that impression. its always been clear that jacob is bella's FRIEND.
but here i come to my ONLY negative point about the film: is it just me or did u guys think that they concentrated on the jacob-bella romance too much? this was how i imagined they'd be in eclipse! not new moon!!!
like during the near kissing scene b4 edward calls bella's house- bella closes her eyes and LEANS into jacob. in the book bella keeps saying "no im not ready" to herself or something along those lines.
i dont know, i just got a feeling they overplayed that romance in this film- so im scared to see wat the next film will be like! lol.
dont get me wrong, bella said many times how edward is the one for her- but for e.g. when she "emails" alice and tells her about her friendship with jacob, it really annoyed me how she said that the hole in her chest is sort of healed. it shouldnt be healed! lol
i dont know, i might be rambling too much, but still, IMO, everything about this movie was perfect- even the emotions in the reunion scene- except for the OTT concentration on the bella and jacob romance!
@Valey,
Have to disagree with you...read that portion of the book again...
Bella was in shock, and always believed he couldn't love her, so when he confirmed it...she just went into herself...
I think Kristen played it to a tee...although, if it were me, I would have screamed bloody murder, threw myself at his legs and he would of had to leap through tress to get me to let go...
Then, I would have run screaming through the woods like a crazy person screaming EDWARD DON'T LEAVE ME..
but that's just me...
Sorry, meant Valery
i know my opinion won't be aplaudded but..it's my opinion.
Leaving out that Twilight Saga is a franchise whose only purpose is making a lot of money (so they give to the audience what the audience wants: young gorgeous actors, muscles, love, passion, romance, kisses...), i must admit that i didn't like the movie at all.
The movie is a good adaptation of the book, the problem is that the book is...how can i say it? bad? a shit?...so, what did i expect from the movie? well, i guess i didn't expect a good movie, but at least i expected a movie better than twilight. But New Moon is so slow, so boring, so pedantic, so whini.
However, i liked the scene where Bella is yelling in her bed and the months passing, with the song Possibility: that was awesome, that song really fits with her feelings. I liked too the Vulturis part and Edward's face when he asks Vulturis to kill him. That was really good.
But, the movie was...well this is, basically, the script (spoiler alert!):
- i love you
- i love you too
- i love you more
- i can't life without you
- i don't want you
- i'm gonna commit suicide
- me too
- no please! you are my world
- i breath the air you breath
- kiss me, i need it to live
- you are my sun, my moon, my sky, muy clouds, my light, my life
- i'll kill you both
- no! kill me! i love him so much
- ooohhhh we are in love...
I have to say that i'm not a Twilight fan (as you can see) but i read the books because i always read essay and i wanted something diferent and i went to see the movie because i think it would be better than Twilight and i wanted to see Rob's work, cause i'm a Rob fan, not a Twilight fan. (I think Remember me will be better, obviously.)
To conclude, i just want to say that Bella is the worst young girl model i have ever seen: she is constantly hating and despising herself, she thinks she has no worth without a man (instead of thinking that she's a girl with a great worth for herself) and she hasn't objectives in life beyond being Edward's wife. That's not love, that's stupidity. i'm in love (4 years with my boyfriend) but life always goes on, with or without him. And i don't want young girls to think that love is like that, i don't want them being like Bella. I want them to be strong women.
I wish i could enjoy the film as you do but...i can't. but i'm happy for you all, i don't look down on no one. but i have the feeling that I trashed 8 euros in the cinema.
PS: sorry for my english, i know it's bad...
Just returned from seeing it a second time. I have to say, I enjoyed it the first, and just as much if not more the second.
The first time I was so busy trying to take in the whole screen, it was easy to miss things. The second time I was able to focus more on the characters and plot.
Of course there are a few issues that could have been improved. Overall I loved it.
crazy vamp, when will you get to see NM?
This movie "as a movie" was terrible. Kristen Stewart is the worse actress I've ever seen. I don't dislike the movie because Edward didn't play a big role and I didn't love the movie because Taylor was shirtless the whole time. The movie is just really bad. The other characters made up for some of the bad acting of the main characters such as Anna Kendrick and Bella's father.
This movie "as a movie" was terrible. Kristen Stewart is the worse actress I've ever seen. I don't dislike the movie because Edward didn't play a big role and I didn't love the movie because Taylor was shirtless the whole time. The movie is just really bad. The other characters made up for some of the bad acting of the main characters such as Anna Kendrick and Bella's father.
I agree with you Evonne. New Moon is one of the worst movies I have ever seen. Disaster. Atrocious. I was bored in the first ten minutes and I loved the first Twilight movie. There's no excuse for such a terrible movie considering all the money the franchise is making. Would it have killed them to make it better? Kristen Stewart exhaled, blinked, and shook her head all the way through this one, and I'm sorry but that gets really old really fast. The kind of acting that works well for child stars -- that underacting, less is more type of acting may have worked for her when she was a child star but it does not work for an adult actress. She's going to have to learn to show something other than the typical "blank face" she offers us again and again. And the incessant PAUSING, followed by violin music, followed by MORE PAUSING. Geezus. Is Chris Weitz serious? That's so bad. The visions of Edward were corny and stupid. Edward looked like a clown with constipation. The music was horrible. What was that? Old school violin music the whole time -- are you kidding me people -- you loved that music??? New Moon is like an SNL parody of itself. I think when all the hype calms down, people are going to see this movie for the sad sad sad version of what it is and then they'll wish that someone else would make this movie correctly.
Does anyone remember what Chris Weitz said during the comic con interview? He said that a monkey could direct this film and it would do well. That pretty much says it all, don't you think?
Wow...
Everyone is certainly entitled to their opinion , but there's a lot of hate in them.
I'm so glad to be in the majority on this and not the minority...
This comment is long so it might be in more than one posting. Please forgive me. I saw Twilight before having read the book, and I found it disjointed, missing points like a graph that needed more equations to fill in for the full picture, yet the characters and the premise drew me in. After my girls told me the book was so much better, I was intrigued and read the book, and totally surprising myself, I got hooked and read the 2nd and third within 2 days,the 4th when it came out. I liked New Moon the best, found it heartbreaking and accurate emotionally and psychologically. I looked forward to the movie New Moon ever since I read the book, and loved the trailers and teasers. I saw it finally Friday morning, and found it went by too fast, but am hoping to see it tomorrow again, and possibly Thursday again.
I completely disagree that Bella hates herself and isn't complete without a man. She isn't complete without THIS man. And he is the same, it's not like he is strong and she is weak. She thinks he is so beautiful, but from the get go she gives him a hard time. Jessica says she would be too intimidated to talk to him. Bella actually ends up being the strongest of them all. And she doesn't despise herself, she knows she is clumsy, and doesn't dwell on her looks, doesn't think they are anything special. I know a hell of a lot of girls that felt that way when I was growing up, me included, and I've been told my whole life I'm very pretty. I just never quite believe it. LOL. As Rob always says, she always saves Edward, and teaches him how to let go and love her. As Edward even said, as hurting as she was, she still went on with her life for Charlie and Jake, he just let the misery have him.
I think in NM they find out they love each other equally. And hey, come on, it's just a book. about a human and a vampire. LOL.
After all of the interviews, especially with Chris, and having seen the trailers, I had hoped for more, and am wondering who cut out some bits of scenes, and who viewed it without realizing there were missing holes, like an incomplete graph. I hope someone did not take this out of Chris' hands. He seemed so brilliant in comprehension, intent and everything else-- the colours, the action, commitment to tehe story, and especially how he brought out the acting-- I already think highly of Rob's and Kristen's acting skills, but this was just beyond what I have seen from them. I am amazed when I see negative comments about their acting. Emotionally, intellectually, and psychologically, they were spot on, and physically---well... G-d bless them. :-) Anyway--I am wondering if Summit ordered stuff cut out, not caring about an audience other than fans, because I don't think it stands independently for soemone who hasn't read the books, for someone who is not yet a fan. Perhaps after this week when I have viewed it a few more times, I will perceive it differently, but I cannot see how I can be objective since I have read the books. So I would like to understand-- does someone other than the director cut and edit the film? Who made the decisions to present it incomplete, to assume the viewer will fill in the missing points of the
'graph' to get the full picture?
Not a fan of fan-fiction, since the first pieces I read were frankly too shocking to me( I just don't think that way), I was surprised to read about Dark Side of the Moon, and have read the first 5 chapters so far, and am so touched and moved by them. I am wondering if Summit would consider buying this, and make it into a movie asap before the cast ages anymore, even before Breaking Dawn is done ( I would rather have seen it even before Eclipse); I wonder if the cast would consider doing it. Much of NewMoon the movie could be used, just more is needed for Edward's persepctive and torment.
Sorry - this will be a long one:
I wish people would stop harping on what a bad role model Bella is for young girls. I think they miss the point that the reason why so many women and girls have connected with the series and the characters is because that is exactly how so many of us feel or have felt. Whether it be right or wrong, there are some people where you care about them so much that you make stupid decisions and put them before what's best for you.
What a double standard when you read about male characters that are weak and/or questionable as role models (and there are many), but it's hailed as being honest and realistic. But when there is a female protagonist who doesn't follow along the modern ideals of feminism and female empowerment, all of a sudden it's a huge step back in progress. I don't think Twilight is going to cause an entire generation of girls to think less of themselves - modern advertising and marketing do that already.
When I read the books or watch the films, I do it for entertainment value and a sense of nostalgia, back to high school and those young feelings. Is Bella the type of person girls should aspire to be? Not necessarily - she's selfish, has low self-esteem and is easily blinded by her feelings for Edward. Is she an accurate reflection of girls her age (or any age, really) - how they think and feel? Yes, I think so.
With that rant over, let me just say the movie was what I expected it to be. Better than Twilight IMO, with room for improvement still. I don't quite understand how it's garnered such impassioned negative criticism, but to each his own. Will I see it again? Absolutely. Would I recommend it to others? Yes - as long as you don't already have any pre-conceived negativity where you're looking for all the bad stuff.
I watched it last night and I enjoyed it a lot. I liked Twilight more for a couple reasons:
1) more Edward
2) it wasn't as polished which better captured the emotional tone of the book. NM the book is such a dark, moody book. Though kristen did her best to portray that pain that bella was feeling, i just felt like NM was too slick. The inclusion of the wolf pack and volturi in the story probably required someone with more CGI/action movie experience, but I just think that a woman needs to be at the helm of this story. It's written by a woman, about a woman, shouldn't the story be visually told by a woman too? That being said, I thought CW did a great job with the visual effects--the wolves, the volturi, the climactic scene in Italy. But there was a little too much slo-mo of edward walking (maybe I shouldn't complain about that because I thoroughly enjoyed those mouthwatering scenes).
3) the chemistry between edward and bella was more palpable in the first movie. but then again, they didn't share that much screen time together in this one. and maybe i was annoyed because the chemistry between bella and jacob was stronger than i personally want it to be.
4) the soundtrack--i admit that i bought the soundtrack to listen to RPatz serenade me daily but the rest of the soundtrack is great too. It stands on its own. NM's soundtrack is good too but not as good as Twilight.
Things I liked about NM:
1) Robert Pattinson--too fine a specimen for words.
2) Charlie--Billy Burke was great.
3) Aro--Michael Sheen did a great job of playing him creepy, charming, and frightening.
4) I think Taylor Lautner did a great job of playing innocent puppy love struck Jacob in twilight and brooding werewolf in NM.
That being said, I'm sure I'll watch it again in the theatres and buy the dvd because i just love the series and though i love the books more, watching the movies is an easier way to get a jolt of twilight.
@haystack
you go girl!!!!!
You said exactly what I wanted to say to the Bella/ Kristen haters but just didn't have the energy...
Here's big kisses & hugs for you!!
Muwah!! xoxoxo
You too HD in sd!!
Xoxoxo
sorry but my english doesn't allow me to explain my reasons very well. i'm gonna try
i agree with solas in some points, i'm really thank to you for give me your point of view. it make me think about my own opinion.
what i want to say is: what do you learn when you read the books or see the film? what's the message? do i have to fall in a depression if my boyfriend leaves me? do i have to stop living and enjoying my life if that happens? why the hell the only objective in Bella's life is being with Edward? what about studies, jobs...? what about her skills, her intelligence? why is she always like "oh i don't know why Edward loves me, he's everything and i'm nothing"? why does she think everyboy is better than her? why is she always being dependent on Jacob or Edward? hasn't she got strenght to push on?
What i learn from the book is that, if my boyfriend leaves me, i'm nothing, my life won't be worth it, everybody is better than me, no matter if i'm a smart girl or if i'm a great person, i'm nothing without him.
And i know this is just a book/movie, but you can't imagine the big influence of movies in young girls. They take the actress as models, maybe unconsciouslessly.
and i know that, if a young girl read the book, she doesn't becomes in "Bella" automatically, but she may think that the most important thing she has to do is please her boyfriend, because she's nothing without him.
Actually, i'm NOT talking about little aspects of the books-movies, i'm talking about VALUES they transmit, cause values are transmitted by the media and cultural expressions, like books or movies.
But see this isn't about a normal love between 2 17 yr old people.
If Bella had fallen in love with jake and he left her.. It would have had a different reaction... Sad move on with your life.
This was a life altering love for both. It's also a fantasy love story.
And she was moving on over time. She still got up, went to school, made a new friend.. She still went through the motions of living, but her life was altered and would never be the same, nor would Jake ever be able to replace Edward.
The message is very clear to me... and again this is a story about the ideal love...at a fantasy level.
Bella is the strongest one out of all of them and I wish I could be as strong as she is.
It was Chris's cut and I believe his choice what to leave on the floor. Yes, all the 20 mins of footage we're all going to have to wait for!
Reflecting that the 'vision' scene with E/B may have more to do with Eclipse, than NM, which is why it doesn't entirely fit. Either that or he was trying, and failing, to include some humour again. lol
Just one point about Bella as a role model. I like to remember she's in a relationship with a VAMPIRE. It doesn't mean you can't extrapolate but it is fantasy based on other fictional characters.
@EstGarZo
I get what you're trying to say, and agree to a certain extent. Of course books and movies are influential and can transmit values, but I guess what I'm wondering is why single out Twilight in particular for reflecting such poor values? You could argue, really, that any movie or book in which the girl ends up with the hero in a happy ending is transmitting similar values. You see them all the time - girl meets boy, girl and boy get together, some conflict separates girl and boy, then it's resolved and they live happily ever after. All would transmit the value that you need to find a man (or woman) to be happy.
I would also argue that Bella doesn't think everyone is better than her - she just doesn't understand why this guy who she's put up on a pedestal would feel the same way about her as she does for him. She sees herself as "normal" and Edward as absolutely extraordinary and out of her league - but she doesn't think that about Jacob or Mike Newton, et al. She just doesn't view them the way she does Edward.
The Twilight series is the love story of Bella and Edward, and the obstacles they face as a couple. I don't think it was intended to be a story of Bella's development as a person beyond the definition and boundaries of her relationship with Edward (and Jacob). Although, if you read Breaking Dawn again, you might see that she did develop as a character. Who knows? Maybe she does great things for feminism beyond Breaking Dawn, right? :)
estgarzo-
I don't think I learn anything new from the books or the movie. I've thought about these things, especially love, for a long time now. And I will tell you that when you REALLY love someone, not just like, not just love, that someone-- be it mate, parent, sibling, child, or friend---really becomes part of yourself, a bigger whole, and if that person is gone, it is as if a part of you has been ripped off, as if someone has amputed your limb, or cut out your heart. When one of my sisters was killed, my parents never ever got over it-- she was ripped from them as if their arms were cut off, and the phantom pain could not be smoothed away. When one of my babies was abused so badly she became brain-damaged, I felt the loss as if part of me were killed off, and still feel that way years later. In the Bible, when Rachel was dying, Jacob called the baby she had just bourne 'Benyamin'--son of my right hand-- for Rachel was part of him, an important vital part that was being cut off from himself. And I will say, although I have yet to meet the mate of my soul, that I think the loss of a soulmate would be more than an amputation of life, it would be a burning hole of loss in the soul.
I wouldn't wish it on anyone. And I feel Stephanie Meyers captured the pain, and Rob and Kristen expressed that pain, so believably, so excrutiatingly, that I felt my own wounds in the loss.
As for bella being in love with a vampire, and therefore not something in the real world, keep in mind that there are vampires in our world. Not the standard movie/TV type of fangs and black capes and coffins, not even the Meyer kind of rainbow glitter hard skin and dazzle, but rather vampires who prey on the joy in our lives, who suck the life out of us. If you want, think of Edward's struggle with what he is, and his struggle against his thirst for Bella, as a fight against a need that so many have, to take advantage, to ruin something nice and innocent in the world, to act on instinct and to crave immediate reinforcement.
i don't want to convince anybody, i just wanted to express my opinion to give you all the oportunitty to think about Twilight Saga with another point of view. I'm thank to you all for giving me your point of view too, so i can think about my own opinion, which i know is quite...radical.
i often think that i'm the most unromantic girl i've ever known and that's why i have the opinion i have about Twilight Saga. My boyfriend is right now studying in another city (Barcelona) and my life continues just like before...i'm so busy with university, job and my friends that most days i even forget to phone him!! i love him but my life will go on without him OF COURSE.
and @rpattzgirl you're right "this is a story about the ideal love...at a fantasy level" and @Haystackhair you're right too "it's just a book. about a human and a vampire"
maybe i have to see it the way you do, but i can't ignore that values are transmitted with every kind of stories, movies or books, vampires or not, fantasy or not. To me, the most important thing is the message i get, and i don't like the message of this Saga.
Solas, my God woman, Hugs and kisses to you. the pain of the loss or the pain of a child is unfathomable. I am so sorry.
But yes, when Bella was depressed, I looked at my husband next to me and imagined the pain of losing him. It was unbearable.
I hope in some way NM healed your torment. Prayers and kisses for you! May your soul mate come out of the forest soon!!!
Est-gar-zo,
It's ok we don't see it eye to eye..that's the beauty about life, and these amazing stories...we can disagree and still have meaningful conversations.
Solas,
Thank you for sharing what I can't even imagine being the most painful part of anyone's life.
It really does put things in perspective doesn't it?
A soul mate is someone who recognizes their counterpart in another...and I've never found that either...you can find love and happiness, but true soul mates are rare...
I'm in the "twilight" years of my life, so mine's probably gone...
I look at Rob and think I've found him when I look in his eyes, I see it...but that's my fantasy and I hang onto it for life!
Big hugs to you Solas..
rpattgirl- twilight of your life? HOw old are you? 90? Don't be so negative. Believe!! and go on hikes in the forest, looking for your vampire. Believe!! I searched and searched and prayed and prayed for my husband and I finally found him on the internet.
When his hair gets long and the lighting is just right, he looks just like Edward to me.
OK, we've gotten off the topic a bit. ha ha.
@Anglea,
LMAO! I will keep my options open! I love it, in the right light he looks just like Edward!!
yep, he's pasty white and super strong and a little rough with me.
he doesn't look like Rob at all though :( Gotta close the eyes for that one.
I pretended he was Robward so much when we were trying to get pregnant. it worked really well. Pregnant with twins. Ha ha.
hey i'm so happy this is the first time i argue with people and everybody is so tolerant...i really love this atmosphere of mutual respect, it's really fantastic.
I think Breaking Down confirms what i'm saying. Bella: mother and wife at 18/19...!!???? i really hope she does great things for feminism beyond Breaking Dawn... jajaja ;) no, i know that she is very powerfull in that book, i know.
i also know that there's another books and movies that transmit the same values as this Saga, and i criticize them, but not here, i only speak about Twilight Saga because this is the post of New Moon. if you want, we can talk about them in another place, i think it will be very interesting ;D
@ Angela: "i think you shouldn't get married until you find that faith in perfect love" you're sooooo right...that's why i'm so sure that i'm not going to get married, perfect love doesn't exist (to me), reality it's not like Twilight...
i really really love this conversations with you all...
well...i don't know where you're from but in Spain it's 00:20, on Tuesday! it's too late to me...if you tell me something DON'T WORRY, i'll read tomorrow, i promise
Good night...
Congratulations Angela! That's awesome sweetie!
Hey, sometimes in a storm, any port, yada yada yada!
Angela--many thanks--I did not write what I wrote in order to cause sorrow or guilt or elicit sympthy, but rather to express how powerful I think these stories really are, and to clarify for others that real love, no matter the age of those who truly love, is not something to be dismissed.
Just got back from my 2nd viewing & I still like it. Only this time I was able to just watch instead of waiting for the next scene. One thing that struck me this time, Ashley Greene can't act. I didn't notice the 1st time around, but this time I did. She's not very good at all. Judging my other people's comments I seem to be in the minority in thinking that Rosalie looks better in NM than TW, but that said, Nikki Reed still makes a terrible Rosalie. I still think Taylor did a terrific job, I wasn't bored watching the middle of the movie like I was reading the book.
I do think they shortened the ending too much, & there wasn't enough E&B time, especially for Edward to admit he was wrong. Over & over again. And the proposal scene should have been longer. Anybody who has not read the books will not have any idea why Edward is smiling the way he is when he says marry me. They'll probably just think he's deranged or something. Reminds me of in TW when he walks into the cafeteria & gets that little grin. If you didn't know he can read minds, you wouldn't know why he was smiling.
rpattzgirl--
many thanks. I don't know what twilight years mean (for some it is hitting 30, for some 50, for some 90s), but I do believe everyone has a soulmate, that it is a matter of the right time and place to meet up, and that perhaps we do not meet up with our soulmates in every lifetime.
I sometimes feel that perhaps my soulmate died before we could meet up in this lifetime, but every now and then I still hold out hope, and I hope you will as well. The trick is knowing---another interesting thing to 'learn' from Twilight---neither knew right away. Sometimes, the soul is so hidden under the garbage of everyday life and superficial banter and the games people play. IMHO, The more real a person is, the more true to himself/herself, the clearer the soul.
Dear Rob,
You spoke so highly of this movie and CW so I saw it but I must say it did not do it for me like Twilight did though flawed as it might have been. After listening to CW on interviews, he seemed very well-spoken and intelligent, some might even say he's a saint but apart from the special effects, he wasn't able to convey the magic. Perhaps it's partly because of the material he had to work with too. So I'm just basically a little conflicted when I heard all the praise you had for this movie when you were promoting it, though I understand that it's sort of your job to do so.
@Solas: I am sorry for your loss.
I'm not saying there are no parallels but that a vampire is still a metaphor, in real life. Bella is a character who is literally in love with a vampire, in a novel. We can all read many things into the situations presented and even see aspects of our own lives, and it makes for good discussion and reflection. However, sometimes it might also be good to remind girls that the story, as it is, is a fantasy. :)
A-it could be, and I am sure on one level it is; I just always saw it beyond that. I never thought of it as a vampire story, a human-vampire story, etc.
Regarding Bella's unusual fixation, please remember that this is not "normal" guy that you just "get over". This is the ideal...perfection...beyond Romeo & Juliet, beyond Heathcliff & Cathy, beyond Elizabeth & Mr. Darcy. Think Superman & Lois Lane. You don't just try to forget a love like that and focus on your school work. We are not talking about characters from 90210 here. We are talking about being loved by a sort of demi-god and then having that abruptly taken away. This is an epic love story...not literature to build female character. Besides, Bella is no pansy...she NEVER backs down from anyone and she still does well in school, LOL. I remember my first heartbreak and the guy was a 16 year old loser with a bad haircut. I thought I was going to die for about a month. So, I find it amazing that Bella was able to continue on. I'm not sure I could have done so under her circumstances. Great love story without a doubt.
Solas, I am so very sorry for your loss too! You sound like a very strong woman, and also very religious. Religion helps sometimes...
I lost my soul mate very recently. Sometimes it is almost unbearable, but I try to keep my head up, focus on my family, on work, my books and movies, and so on.
Time will pass, and I strongly believe we'll be together again in another life.
If I didn't believe in that, I would not be able to stand it now. I would not be able to live the life I still have to live.
Sorry to open up like that.
Solas, God bless you and your family!
forever, i am sorry for your loss, and hope that after a very long life you will re-unite.
I have observed people who have lost their spouses after many years. Some are relieved; after many years, they couldn't stand each other. But some really have part of their lives killed off, and statistics show a lot of spouses who were healthy suddenly passing on soon after the death of the partner. I wish you a good long life, hoping memories will sustain you for now, and hoping that you take advantage of the life you stil lhave, no matter how un-whole, to do good in the world whilst you are here.
Thank you, solas.
Sorry, but I can't think straight right now... I need some time.
Thanks again.
Forever-If you need someone to talk to, you can email me or I-M me: solas18@aol.com.
OMG, see what us opening up to each other has accomplished? Solas, big hugs. rpattzgirl, you and I seem to always be on the same page. LOL.
Hugs back at you all.
On a lighter note, I am hoping to see New Moon again tomorrow (in the morning again, hoping to avoid screamers). Consensus here seems to indicate we can appreciate it more each time we see it. :-)It seemed too short, too rushed the first time, missing too many important points. Perhaps will flow more smoothly with each viewing!
Reading these posts reminds me of why I visit this blog. Everyone’s entitled to their own opinion and the discussions never (well rarely) degenerate into petty arguing!
Slightly off point but Valery made a good comment a while back about Rob in the Bad Mother's Handbook. He’s not the star of that movie and it is by no means a big budget film, but I highly recommend any fan of his to check that movie out. He’s so sweet in it, I actually prefer him in that role than Art in HTB
Sorry for going off point. You can resume NM reviews now!
I want to say thank you to someone who wrote a comment I read here who said just watch the movie and enjoy it for what it is. That is what I did and found I enjoyed it. It is not an oscar winner nor ever intended to be one. I think all three of the actors did a fine job. I think Rob will be much better in his upcoming roles. He alreay does not seem as stiff when he plays a more emotional role in Remember Me.
They seriously need someone new in wardrobe and the editing made the movie more "jumpy" then was needed and the end was far to rushed. Please fix the contacts.
All that being said, it was fine everyone has grown and am looking forward to Eclipse.
I do need to make a comment about some of the exceptional women on this sight. I rarely comment; but I have to say tonight that I wonder if you all are aware of how insightful you are and supportive.
Life is sometimes very difficult; but rarely a connection is made that will help push you along the road. Many of you did that tonight. Very nice to see.
Saw it today! Loved it! So impressed by Kristen. She did an amazing job. And I think I know which silly scene. It was pretty hard not to laugh at. Everyone else did.
VFX course
Im going to keep it short I hope. Rob did and amazing job. I loved the versitility in the emotion. He was gorgeous and and looked almost mad when he needed to. The part where Carlisle said " I will not loose my son" had me balling.The only thing that bothered me a bit was the lipstick.Rob has naturally Red lips that don't need help standing out.The kisses laced through out the movie..Hot and heartbreaking at the same time. Rob I love you!!
Kristen, I think she did a phenominal job she emitted heartbreak through her tears. I wanted to see her cry and she did. I loved watching her strenghth and resolve renew itself. My favorite scene was when she told Edward to "shut up" about the vote.
She nailed this performance, and I have to agree with Rob that she is the best actress of her generation.
Taylor was impressive, He had my heart braking for Jacob.
All in all I loved the movie, I think CW was the best chioce and I was not disappionted in any way.
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