Everyone have fun with this one, the rumors are loose like rabid dogs!
Yes, you two may continue to hide it, but the world knows better. Kristen Stewart and Robert Pattinson obviously try to keep a low profile when heading out into the real world, but that doesn't mean that we're not gonna catch them together. After spending the night together at the Chateau Marmont last week, the two were then spotted at a Marcus Foster show together.
And now, Life & Style Magazine has practically confirmed everything for us. Rob and Kristen spend so much time apart this summer, that they took full advantage of their alone time together before they head to Vancouver to shoot Eclipse. One witness tells the mag, "From the way they act, it's clear that Rob and Kristen are together -- and in love. It seems that they can't stay away from each other."
And according to Life & Style, we fans aren't the only ones who've noticed something. Their co-star Nikki Reed, who plays Rosalie Hale, said to Rob during their flight to Vancouver yesterday, "I saw the pictures -- getting in cabs together, going for lunch. I thought you were going to keep it undercover?" This was obviously before Rob whispered to her to keep her voice down. There goes Rosalie, always trying to ruin things for people. Even our good pal Justin Chon thinks there might be something there. "Rob likes interesting, smart girls. I think once he finds the right girl, Rob's a real relationship kind of guy."
Now that we've completely wet your Rob and Kristen appetite, wanna know some fun facts about the Eclipse shoot? For example, how is the hair department going to deal with the dead thing on K-Stew's head? "To get that pigment out is going to be very difficult," the Twilight cast's colorist, Stuart Gavert told the mag about her dark hair. "I'd bleach her hair to remove the color, then condition it and match it to the weave she wears in the film."
And just so you now, Taylor Lautner isn't the only one who is going to be super buff these days. "I'm putting on a lot of weight as fast as I can, going to the gym and doing fight training and a lot of stunt work," Kellan Lutz revealed. Jackson Rathbone is up on the fight training too, "Right now we're choreographing [the fights] and working out." Even the ladies are gonna be super buff.
This should all be quite fun to watch! But obviously not as exciting as watching where Rob and Kristen's relationship goes. Make sure to keep up with all your daily Twilight needs with out Twilight Saga Daily Update.
302 comments:
«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 302 of 302 Newer› Newest»all this debating turning me into a fucking lawyer lol
tomorrow iam going into harvard and say give me my FUCKING degree LMAO
damn i love this forum YOU LADIES ROCK
people do things that work to their advantage. If they are together but won't verbally or officially confirm it, there must be a reason since not confirming is making their lives pretty complicated. There must be an even better reason not to say anything one way or the other than the obvious reasons to do so.
danyasky funny that is by far my most disliked vid.
Kristen picking at Robs teeth was just wrong to me.
I have to say it was the defining moment when I decided that she was too immature for him.
Who does that in the middle of a conversation not least when cameras are trained on you!!?? I could not figure out if she was putting him down or had just been bought up with no manners.(since then she has made snide little comments in interviews so I do think it is both.
IMO I thought Rob was embarrassed on that occasion (as anyone would be)
Glad for his sake he did not have a bit of snot in his nose. Kristen with her finger up his nose !!!not a pretty sight..LOL
I thought the finger thing was funny. I thought they were being flirty there, he was all playing along with her and touching the food particle and giggling. The only time he seemed embarrassed of her in that video is when she' slike "yeah, we're watching that xrated movie last tango in paris all the time together." He looked mortified like it was a bit of information he didn't want to share, since she was 17 and he was afraid Chris Hanson and the Catch A Predator crew were going to ride his jock about it!
Katy- He's gotten her too.
with the "cat's die" comment on the unscripted interview. I think giving each other crap is part of they're dynamic.
He can give as good as he gets.
@ Rosa
"he was afraid Chris Hanson and the Catch A Predator crew were going to ride his jock about it!"
Thank you for the best laugh I've had all day!!!
lmao rosa to the catch a predator comment....
sidenote: my housematesand i watch it all the time and we convince ourselves we have seen these people before.. we also have a wall of perpetrators by our door to our apartment.
He also got her in one of the interviews in Rome where she was having one of her rambling moments..she asked for help and if he understood what she was trying to say...he said no and laughed.
A couple or not they kill me.
You all are great fun. Glad your coming to the blog.Have a great nite all.
Bye!
LMAO dany...I am actually in lawschool so this is run of the mill stuff for me...I love to debate and argue, but I do respect EVERYONE's opinion!! I really love hearing what all of you bring to the table. It still leaves us all guessing and I do hope that I don't come off as bashing or disrespectful. I would never intentionally be nasty with any of you on here. You are all too sweet and it is a lot of fun to be able to come here and debate without it getting nasty and heated like some other forums. I truly hope that if he is with Kristen he is happy. That is all that matters in the grand scheme of things. Hopefully this guessing game will end soon....I guess then we can debate on how long it will actually last. hehe!!
some folks think they should show more PDA
but i think they are being advised not to
and he had his hand on her at lunch and if you look really good their legs are touching
and in the vid when they are leaving together from the TCA
he put his hands on her for one second before his manager pushed him into the car,you have to look fast to see it
brown eye girl,
ITA, I have to admit, I do see connection and have seen it for a long time. Since last year with Vanity Fair photo shoot and last years comic com. But I do hate to be manipulated by the media and gossip sites, so when thing s don't make sense.
danysky, so I single you out for my rant and I feel terrible about it.
I love coming to this blog and have tons of fun robsessing with you girls. But lately it seems if you don't think they are on, you either get ignored or get taken down.
I can't wait til they come out one way or another. If they are dating I'm happy for them and if they aren't at least we will know that they are great friends.
I miss they days of us going on and on about how hot and goofy he is. I sound so shallow lol
oops more typos I meant:
danysky, sorry I singled you out for my rant and I feel terrible about it.
I think that they "may" be together or maybe they are simply spending more time together now that she has broken up with her BF. And yes Rob did admit several times that he had a crush on her, he didn't lie about that. Hey, they also spent alot of time together when they first filmed Twilight and they developed that closeness that they share. Its just that now that her BF isn't in the picture, everyone (and especially the media)is looking into their relationship WAY too much because KStew is single now.Now the "opportunity" is there for them to be BF and GF, and that's why they're making such a big deal out of it.
Even if their relationship changed (or is changing)from simply friendship to something more, then like a lot of you said, just let them be happy. I do, however, have a feeling that she will get back with Michael A. at some time in the future; they're not done yet. And I'm usually right about these things most of the time. If its true that they broke up because he wanted marriage and she didn't because she's too young; they could just be on some type of "break." (everytime I hear that I can't help but think of Ross and Rachel on Friends, "but we were on a BREAK!!!!!) LOL. There could still come a time in the future when she will be ready for marriage to MA, and because of their history and length of relationship, they may get back together. Who knows? Who cares?? It is after all only their business, no one else's!!
Summit and Rob's manager and agent/publicist want to keep Rob's image as a young, free, single guy. They're afraid he'll lose alot of fans (especially the tweens and teens)if he's taken.Only his older more mature fans (us Robsessers included)understand the reality of their relationship and can deal with it much better. But face it, all the teen girls want to marry Rob. So, they have to keep him single and available.
Sorry about the long-ass ranting, but I had to get it out and now I will leave this topic alone and go back to my everyday Robsessing and drooling. And everyone is entitled to his/her own opinion, so don't argue or fight over this ladies. (LOL)
lostinphilly, love your comment. I will be joining you in the drooling.
: )
One more question, do you think if KS came out and announced her breakup, like Emilie announce that her divorce was over, that it might have been less crazy?
@brown eye girl
you are in law school thats awesome
and i love a lively discussion with all the evidence,i know its only circumstantial but as i said before people got convicted and fried with less
i miss the old days too. i know i never commented on this board until recently but i would always lurk through comments i just never felt compelled to respond to anything.. it actually worries me slightly if they are going out because people are crazy. i dont like kristen, but i dont want to see he get hurt due to rapid fans either
okay i think we know who the shipless people are, and the shippers, so if they come out with a statement one way or another, someones eating crow...
i think they are together...
will i eat crow? hhhmmmmmmmm
RP for dummies, no one has to eat crow. We'll all just be happy for them one way or another.
I just miss the old days. I much rather speculate whether he's going commando or not. We don't know them personally and they don't really owe us another explanation. I'm just sad because my Robsession hasn't been that fun lately.
hey no need to apologise we all come here for one reason
WE LOVE ROB
and if they are together i fear she will break rob's beautiful heart and go back to that ugly ass boyfried M
DAMNNN that boy fucking ugly,what she ever saw him OMG
hey no need to apologise we all come here for one reason
WE LOVE ROB
and if they are together i fear she will break rob's beautiful heart and go back to that ugly ass boyfried M
DAMNNN that boy fucking ugly,what she ever saw him OMG
OK, my ass is numb. going to bed. Sweet Rob dreams to all!
oxoxo
Win! I think he wore his manties to the TCA, because going commando in front of a bunch of teens is just plain wrong. ;)
Danyasky, I worry that Kristen will hurt Rob too. That's my only real concern there. But eh, no point in spending much time worrying on that score yet. I won't borrow trouble.
WinWin- if KS would have announced her breakup like Emilie did her divorce, I don't know for sure if it would be less crazy. Maybe a little; but after all Kristin is a more popular and bigger star than Emilie is right now, so who knows????Guess we'll just have to speculate right along with speculating if Rob's going commmando (oh dear Lord). I miss the old days too, boo-hoo.Yep, CommandoRob in the button-flys...that's the ticket!!!LOL
its 1.43 am here in new york time for me to go to bed have a good night ladies TTYL
as for eating crow iam 70% sure there is something going on,the other 30% i have no fucking idea
whatever I wish I could be K-Stew so I'll be young and pretty and specially hang out with Rob...
oh before i go i have to say this about my perverted observation....anyone else think that rob is packing some serious heat (big d**k) every time i look at his crotch i get this image in my head .....yes folks iam that perverted lol
my mind created a detailed description of what it looks like
Rob and Kris could be just friends. A guy and a girl could be BFF and not go out or get married.
I wonder where Life and Style get their "sources". I actually want to know where all the tabloids get their sources. Ive noticed all tabloid magazines have the same information.
If Rob and Kris are together, and Rob is happy, then I'm happy for him. But I don't see them together. I don't know why. When I try to picture them together, all I see is awkwardness and friendship. That's my opinion. ;)
I won't believe until I hear them make a statement. So far, I don't think they are going out since they have stated that.
Ana73 wrote: She [Kristen] has her own style. So what if she doesn't wear a bra
Well, she doesn't really need one, does she? ;-)
starfire09 wrote: Yeah, I mean they left for Vancouver this morning, on separate planes!! If they were so hot and heavy why wouldn't they travel together?
For safety reasons. It is also common practice for the heads of a company not to take the same plane (just in case one plane crashes not all of them get hurt or die).
@ rosa: Nina Schubert was blonde when she was dating Rob. And Rob stated several times he has not a "type".
@ katykeene: When I saw that interview I thought what the hell is she doing? In front of a camera? How daft is that?
There were times when they were more affectionate in public. Do you remember the interview with just the two of them, where she has her left arm on the back of his chair?
@ Leann & Ana73: I had best male friends for years when I was younger (missing it a bit now). One of them was so close to me (and affectionate as well) that most people - including his mother and his girlfriend - thought we were having an affair. Which we had not.
There are many more stories like the one in Life & Style yet to come. The next weeks I guess we'll get the romantic scenarios (how happy they are, blablabla). Wonder how long it will take until the gossip rags will come up with speculations about jealousy, heartbreak, rivalry, sorrow etc. It's all about projection and giving the readers something they can identify with.
aw c'mon why post that rag on here?
we can use our own eyes (pics, video) to come to the conclusion that yes they are indeed together.
we don't need a rag like that to tell us that
and is this the krisobsessed site? bc i swear that's what all of you gals love to talk about. i mean 234 comments, and then theres one of like rob and his jawline or whatever and it gets like 15 comments or something.
P.S. Did you happen to read the open letter "Taking one for the team" the lovely AJ wrote to KStew? It was written well before all the pictures turned up last week. Let me quote a bit:
"Dear Kstew,
Have you ever heard the old adage ‘take one for the team?' (...)
According to the Urban Dictionary, to take one for the team means to willingly make a sacrifice for the benefit of others…. do you get where I am going with this Stewie?
Let me lay it down. Millions (seriously that freaking many) upon Millions of women want to bang Rob Pattinson, or even just see him naked….ONCE (I myself would settle for watching through a window and Rob gets to keep his socks on…anything for god’s sake!)
(...)
Stewie, you are like a fat guy holding a Big Mac up in front of thousands of starving children refusing to eat it. (...)
So, Kstew I am now asking you to ‘take one for the team’- the ‘team’ being all of us girls who would kill for one night in the arms of Rob Pattinson. (...)
Do it because you CAN. To NOT bang Rob Pattinson when you have the chance is a CRIME AGAINST HUMANITY and is just NOT FAIR."
AJ didn't publish it in her own blog but send it to LTR instead. The whole letter is dead funny, go, read it!
@Phosphorus have I mentioned that I like your ability to add quotes. Your knowledge with the computer is very good. I am lucky to be able to write a line or two (or twenty) without screwing it up. You also have a great memory for detail and always make sound and sensible comments.
@ danyasky I was wondering if you know anything at all about MA that would make you comment as you did about him. I have to say the only time I have seen anything written about him is right here on this blog. I have seen pictures of him and you know he isn't ugly. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. It seems a bit like kicking a guy when he is down to take cheap shots at him now. For all we know he may be feeling devastated about his relationship breakdown.(if it has broken down that is)
It is to his credit that he has not been in one of those smutty rags talking about the break up. I am sure they would love to get his side of the story.
Phosphorous-it's been in interviews though where he's promoting Twilight that he says he doesn't have a type. And he sorta is forced to tsay that because well...he can't alienate fans. he's screwed if he says he likes one type or another.
I'm not saying he has a type for sure either, but i do think there's a similarity there. I've seen the pictures of Nina as a blonde, but she's always looked low maintenance style wise, rocking the rock tees, etc.
The reason I brought this up is because I notice people saying Kristen is boyish or awkward or blah blah blah and when I look at his last girlfriend, she has similarities to Kristen.
While I sorta think they are together, I get why people would be suspicious. I just don't think they should be suspicious because Kristen comees off sorta tomboyish and low maintenance.
Phos that is what I mean those little links of yours are the best. Great letter from AJ I got a good laugh out of that.
@itsoover I will NOT comment on R/K but I will comment on anything that is of interest to me here. That is why we have the blog isn't it???
Krisobsessed!!!??wash your mouth out girl.
@itsoover..Okay I am just joking so don't dooo ittt!!!LOL
@ katykeene: Thank you for your kind words. I'm about to blush. :-)
@ rosa: I believe him, actually. I don't think he has a "type" when it comes to hair colour, height etc. We know he does like to ogle breasts ;-) but he surely won't mind a pair of beautiful legs either. Like most men. He said, he likes girls with a strong personality, people who are not afraid to express themselves, though.
As for the clothes: Girls his age usually don't go for the business look or Vogue style (or whatever), so it's not that surprising he's been with girls that dress "normal". He's not that keen on clothes himself, isn't he?
But you're right, no reason to be suspicious because Kristen comes off a bit tomboyish (she's just 19!, and still discovering her sexuality, I should think).
I actually think they dress more..."casual" than most girls, at least in the pictures I've seen them in(re: his ex and kristen). And there's a tendency with women and girls I think, when they see someone that low maintenance, to be like wtf?lol The reaction when people found some less compliementary pictures of his ex on the boards last year is sooo similar to reactions to Kristen.
And I did try to broaden the notion of type to not be necessarily about their looks per se in my original post, but more about their approach or attidude to things(ie, style, artistic side, not exactly frilly sorts of gals). Just thought I'd clarify.:)
Hmm, Nina did not strike me as dressing more casual than other German girls or English ones. But then again, in countries like Italy her style might appear very casual and low maintencance.
"Stewie, you are like a fat guy holding a Big Mac up in front of thousands of starving children refusing to eat it. "
Coffee just came from my nose LOL Thanks for posting phosphorus, it was a very entertaining letter and so true :-)
P.S.: Didn´t realize KStew on the pic and was wondering why they try to bring Rob and PINK! together. Definatly need some more sleep LOL
Hey Phos - always laugh at your posts. That letter to Kristen by AJ take one for the team - oh god...laugh...and agree lol - given that, let me be her - I'd take one for the team no begging required ;-)) LTR is a great site - especially the breakdown of Rob's music - just loved that!! Felt like I was inside his head and totally approved of his choices as I am into that same music - he was just born in the wrong decade wasn't he?
AJ description of that photo is so true. :-)
Loved the
"You are like the little girl who gets a pony for her birthday and won’t let anyone else at the party ride it (even though SHE is NOT RIDING IT herself…ahem!)
You are single-handedly hoarding one of the finest natural resources on the planet (seriously, I hear that Bono is writing a song right now about how wasteful you are being)"
part, too. I just love AJ's humour. Too bad I am not Robert Pattinson, I'd go for her.
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@ JandR: :-)
I was also laughing hard at the "More Spunk"-letter, and yes, the breaking down of his music was great. But I don't visit LTR regularly, last week I did. To be honest I found the posting of the pic Moon took of Rob and Kristen problematic, not to mention the story at Radar Online. If I was them I wouldn't have done it but then, I'm not.
okay so I'm happy to take Rob's spunk donation - again just for the team ;-) yes please the more spunk the better...lol
Phos I find it a hard line to tread - love seeing pics of Rob but think he deserves his privacy at the same time. His image must be raking in billions for the rags that write such crap about what he's doing. At the same time I had to buy the sexy stars of twilight and as it didn't come out here in Oz that I know of I had to but it online...sad i know
ANYTHING Life & Style reports on= take it with a MASSIVE grain of salt... Ridiculous stuff. Is there a romance going on? Who the hell knows, lol. IF there is, leave the kids alone to enjoy one another, if there isn't stop with the speculation and rumor crap I say. Either way, they should be left alone to do their job and just have a life :-D.
It is not romantic to go out with managers and other friends in attendance. Especially friends who stay until 1:30AM when you really need to be alone because you've been separated for so long. They have rarely been photographed alone and it's not because they are stealthy. Generally the truth of who else was in attendance is covered up to keep this speculation going.
And I agree, they didn't attempt to see each other for a very long time during their individual filming. At that age, I would have lost my mind.
But we say they are obsessed with each other, right? How can it be both?
In the past, she has seemed so irritated with him, even rolling her eyes in the audience during the MTV Awards. That's not the "normal" girl in love response. His shit should smell like roses still.
If they are both as free-spirited and independent of public pressure as people want to believe, then why not take control and declare their relationship? What can Summit do at this point? Fire them? The sneaking seems contrary to what we believe we know about them. Yes, they are "private" people, but this drama is only causing more intrusion into their lives.
And then there are the repeated denials from them and castmates, even Rachelle just a few weeks ago.
I don't presume to know the truth, but I do know that people WANT to see something there, just so they can tear it apart later. It must feel horrible for them if they aren't dating but crazed fans and gossip columnists keep wanting them to.
The insults to MA likely hurt Kristen when she cared about him. You could tell she was getting pissed with the questioning. People like to say that she is "no nonsense" but she's really only 19 and not stupid. This insanity is horrible and it has taken away so much of their lives in return for what? Money? At Comic-Con she joked with Taylor that innocent body language is mistaken for a relationship. This must have been difficult for her, leading to her resentment of the entire scene. Can't blame her one bit for being miserable.
As for Rob, he is being hailed as some kind of sex symbol but he feels very average. He KNOWS that this is all bullshit and it will pass quickly, leaving him in the crosshairs. It has happened many, many times to sex symbols who lose their chance to fulfill their acting goals because the public turns on them so quickly. I am sure he is evaluating everything he does through that lens. This can all come to a stop rather quickly with a single wrong move and he will no longer be bankable.
All in all, they are both essentially children with fame and money. If they are truly mature and professional, then why the games (and it is games)? If they are in love and obsessed with each other, why the distance and lack of true PDA?
Only time will tell on this one because if they are dating, they don't seem to have the balls to stand up to all the opposition that faces them daily. Seriously, this is the time when that would happen; when they are in the early stages of infatuation and feel superhuman. So something is either wrong, weak, or missing in this love affair.
Oh, and I forgot to add "Hi! I'm Kate. Love the board!"
and
"I don't care if they are together but I am so resentful of the manipulation by the media that I don't know how else to express it other than to try to debunk it.
Some of the crap I have read is so malicious that I can't believe ADULTS are writing it."
I dont have anything against Kristen or them together for that matter.
But, I for myself came to the conclusion that this is one hell of a publicity stunt.
IF they are a couple and would want to spend the nights together why choose the Marmont? That is a z-listers hang out and swarming with paps and that is by far not a secret.
If those two are as private as they claim to be, why choose that Hotel and not some other location. They didnt try too hard to hide anything and personally I dont buy the "thats our way to show we are together" crap because come on, what is there to show? They have dinner and they go to gigs together. What a biggie?!
Both have been busy with other projects this summer, it gonne a bit quiet around the Twilight world and now at the verge of starting the filming for Eclipse, oh surprise surprise, they get to be seen hanging around all over the place in the most pap swarmed public places possible.
Im no denial person, nor do I live in a fantasy world but, Im a hell of a realist and people tell me Im one of the most pragmatic person they ever met. So I see it from the point of view of what they and, most important, the studio and their people could gain from it.
And what is that?
Everyone is talking about the Twilight guys being a couple, everyone is looking their way now while they are FILMING, the best advertisment and publicity you can get without having to spend millions on it.
And everyone gains from it. The mags sell their poor excuse at an attempt for journalism and the studio, managments and actors get their publicity.
I know, the story of them being in love is much more romantic (I admit that) but the world is not a sugar coated place.
JMHO and dont rip my head off its just the impression I got from the past few days watching this madness unfold.
What I forgot to add.
I just felt that another side of this whole "are they are they not" thing should be taken into account. :) hence my overly long post. XD
Hi everyone! Hope you don't mind another opinion on this relentess (and exciting topic).
Personally, I'm not expecting an announcement. Ever. I think Kristen sees how much money these rags are making off them and she wouldn't want to give them more ammunition to exploit their relationship. Rob is more open and trusting but will probably respect her wishes on the matter.
Bottomline, I think they make a great couple. They're both talented, musically-inclined, tortured-soul-type artists. They both hate conforming to the norm. They both have an incredible work ethic and take their work very seriously. She's not clingy to want him to spend every minute together (as in the case of her filming The Runaways in LA while Rob is in NY). And of course, there's that incredible chemistry that can drive anyone's imagination crazy.
Yes, it's a concern whether they can keep the relationship strong until the end of the franchise (BD in Dec2010) but in the end, I think they're professional enough to deal with it.
Personally, I want them to go beyond everyone's expectations and have a long, happy relationship. They both seem like the relationship-type of people.
So best wishes, Rob and Kristen. We are all green with envy... but such is life :)
@ Kate: If anything I want Ted C. to be wrong. Because of Ted C. Alas, I'm afraid this turned out to be a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Kate means French Kate, here.
I do have to agree with Pandora about the timing, but also want to add that this theory casts Rob in a very bad light as someone who not only can be deceitful for money, but who really doesn't like his fans as much as he claims. Of course, he doesn't truly owe anyone anything but an engaging performance, and some of these fans have made his existance miserable. But for this to be a ploy, would be very bad for his career once it comes out.
Girls are fickle. They don't like being sold something and surprised when they get home.
IMHO, he really needs to address this before people sour on him. He can't have both: serious actor and tabloid darling. I'm sure he knows it, he's bright enough. He's about to suffer a huge backlash from overexposure. He needs to take a different direction. This weekend was a big mistake. Not the relationship itself, but how they are handling it.
I adore what I think I know of Rob, but I am beginning to see the cracks. He's getting sloppy and needs some serious guidance. Human nature to tear down what we build up is one thing you can count on to never fail.
@ JandR: Are there paparazzi pics in The sexy stars of Twilight? I haven't seen the book so I don't know.
Yes, it is a difficult line to tread. I'm having conflicts every time I see paparazzi pics. I rather enjoy the photos taken at official shoots, press conferences or events. And I hardly ever watch paparazzi videos.
Still, it is one thing to post paparazzi pics in a blog that are all over the web anyway or to post a pic that you took yourself at a "non-official" opportunity* without even asking. And give your story to a gossip site later on.
(* I'm not talking about pictures fans take with Rob after they asked him to.)
@French
Im perfectly aware that my theory is putting both Kristen and Rob but also their people in a very bad light.
But like you. I start to see the cracks as well.
Believe me, my own theory makes me very sad and I bet it occured to many others as well but its so much easier to see the "romance and the love" and the "evil evil paps and mags" instead of the reality that in this business both feed of and gain from each other.
I hope that Im wrong but Im somehow sold on my own theory.
*how arrogant is that?!* XD
@ Pandora: If Summit was behind it I'd expect them to send Kristen and Taylor to the Chateau Marmont. After all isn't a love triangle supposed to be happening in the upcoming film New Moon? ;-)
@phosphorus
Yeah but this is not about the movie, its about publicity. Two different things and Kristen/Rob get the bigger attention as Kristen/Taylor. It would be news yes but not as big and not as talked about.
After all, its the Edward/Bella story happening in real life and we all know who gets the girl in the end dont we?
And who said that the press didnt speculate about Kristen/Taylor during ComicCon. But hardly anyone cared.
You pick the one that suits you best and that gets you the bigger hits. Why is Ted C. so keen on Robsten. It gets him more hits. Easy as that.
And I have to agree with French.
People WANT to see them together, thats the reason the press only selects to show them in a certain way. It gets hardly mentioned that other people where there all the time. To be honest, they havent been alone in all the past few days. The people they where with have been completly ignored.
That would make me think as well.
So here we have the evidence:
1). No visits during the summer (that we are aware of)
2). Meeting to go to a friend's concert with managers and others
3). No photos of them alone, or with PDA
4). Friend supposedly stayed until 1:30AM
5). No effort to stay discreet, yet they do not confirm a romance
They could be knocking boots or perhaps they got shitfaced drunk and didn't want paps to see Kristen stumbling around since she is underage.
By Rob's own admission, he doesn't relate to people well. It makes sense that he would stay close to those he trusts. He went out with Twilight actors in NYC. He follows his musician friends. He's seen Camilla Belle a few times. He's definitely a relationship guy. So the closeness isn't evidence itself.
Could you imagine being a private person and having your personal life measured and weighed by reality challenges squealing teenage girls and the gossips who make money revving them up? I would stick to my friends with superglue. Nothing good comes of this type of attention and he has said it again and again.
He's cracking. He needs support.
@ Pandora: I have difficulties to believe Rob's manager and agent are stupid enough not to see the danger of him being overexposed at the time being. If anything he does not need more publicity at the moment, least not any publicity concerning his love life. His manager and his agent have a vital interest in him having a long-running, successful career because that pays off for them as well.
However, I have even greater difficulties to doubt Rob's or KStew's integrity. Do you really think they sold their souls to the devil to get even more publicity than they have already?
I just want to make clear that Im not questioning any possible relation between those two or that Im in some sort of denial but the realist in me wants to take every possibility into account.
I dont know what is worse. Them not dating but getting along with what people think about them or not, or them actually being a couple but exposing themselves like that even with them claiming to be so private and what not.
Because frankly, if you dont want paps to see you they dont because you make sure where you go and who you tell about it.
You can stay private even as a celeb, you just have to know how. We seen Rob while he was in NY every single day but only at work. We hardly seen him out and about apart from 2 or 3 incidents where he was caught out. So even for a person like Rob its possible to stay under the Radar without the paps and the press knowing where he is at all times.
If his publicity machine wanted longevity for Rob, they would ensure that he appeared decisive, mature and not a teen hearthrob. But he always looks like a deer in headlights and now he's consciously fueling the obsession with his romantic life. Seriously, there were other places they could have gone for hooking up. They could have had seperate rooms and still knocked boots. This was deliberately done in the public eye for a reason and I agree the reason was publicity.
If it was to "come out", why no PDAs? Why no admission? This doesn't make sense to "do everything but talk about it". For two supposedly smart cookies, they aren't making a lot of sense.
Oh, I am LOVING the song "Choking on the Dust" from How To Be. Just had to put that in there. I know I sound very pissy today but I really am a fan. ;D
Pandora wrote: Because frankly, if you dont want paps to see you they dont because you make sure where you go and who you tell about it.
You can stay private even as a celeb, you just have to know how.
Yep, we've already discussed that at length last week.
@Phosphorus
I dont believe they sold their souls or anything of that sort but I think they know and even more their managers and agents that they need the publicity. Believe it or not, they have to remain THE thing out there right now. Its still a long time to go till the end of the saga so people must be kept interested in it.
Its a hard line to walk. Even for me when I argue my point. I dont think bad of Rob or anything like that. I do still like him and thats probably why its pissing me off so much that he is in this situation. Relationship with Kristen or not. Both ways its not an ideal situation.
Yep, we've already discussed that at length last week.
Might be, but I didnt ;) I wasnt there for that discussion but its a valid point dont you think?
And like French, I am a Fan even if I dont sound like one right now. XD
I wonder how huge is the amount of hate mail Kristen got so far because of Rob.
Yes, I agree, it was deliberately done for a reason but I don't think it was publicity.
As for the lack of PDA - remember the film The Village? One character tells his father how he found out the father is secretly in love with one of the women. "You never touch her. You touch others, but not her." When I saw it, I knew he was right. I, too, are very careful not to touch the man I'm secretly in love with.
However, KStew doesn't strike me as the most passionate girl anyway. I guess we all know couples who behave more like pals than lovers, especially when she comes off a bit tomboyish.
And as I pointed out before, there were times they were more affectionate in the public, back in the old days. So why did they suddenly stop it?
@ Pandora: Well, check out the discussions here last week, they are still there. ;-)
Kristen was very demonstrative in public with MA, likely a much less "passionate" relationship because of her age when they started. Even in March when he visited her in Vancouver, they were physical.
In "The Village", they were middle aged and Puritan-like :D.
Kristen seems much less mature than Rob. I know that people want to see her as some icon of aloof professionalism, but she has a real FU attitude. She's quite defiant. I could see her playing with the public very easily.
Rob? I think he agonizes over every thing he does. He must be convinced that this is the right thing to do which is what dissappoints me because it is so disengenuous.
French, I know that they were Puritan-like in "The Village". Still, there is some truth in it. Ask anybody who once had a secret love affair or someone trying to hide his or her feelings for some reason.
All I'm saying here is that the lack of PDA doesn't "proof" anything, neither that they are dating nor that they don't.
We've been through the "FU attitude" and "KStew is less mature / not mature enough for Rob" as well, by the way. ;-)
I guess its a case of we all agree to disagree. ;)
I dont like Kris and I didnt think they were together but I changed my mindi in the last day in L.A. they're always together and people who has seen them said they acted like they're together, they were out for lunch, dinner, concerts and night and I dont think Rob has no other frineds in town to spend his time with...I think Rob could do much better and I tought he had better tastes and go for somone more classy and mature but I was wrong..I also tought he didnt like to be over exposed and being with her and making the Twilight couple will bring only more attention and craziness around him..I believed he wanted to saty away form that but it seems his love for Kris is bigger and he cant stay away from her..Good luck Rob cause I think u really need it this time!
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@phos: I am not evaluating Kristen's maturity in terms of whether or not she should be with anyone romantically. My point was that it would be consistent with what I have seen of her in interviews that she would willingly participate in duping the public.
Dude, this thread alone explains why if they are together, they won't come out and confirm. Look how high expectations are of him - in terms of how he should treat his fans with explaning his personal life, in terms of what kind of girl/woman people think he should be with, the personal disappointment if his choice is Kristen in particular.
Shit, I wouldn't confirm anything either if I were him! And we are the adults here-you realize the tweens and teens are much more harsh in their judgements.
If they are together(and i'm banking on 75% they are at this point with their behavior), they aren't going to come out. Robert's celebrity right now is TOOOOOOOOOOOO tied to his Edward character and the fantasy he presents to women and girls.
Until he is MORE established as an actor and not a hot piece of ass(an ass I love by the way..lol), he can't come out, and especially not with Kristen. People are going to lose their shit if they confirm. I think it's best they don't know, because those who truly don't like the situation can just turn a blind eye to it and still keep their image intact of them they've created.
French:
Thank you!
You summed it all up so well for me.
I don't that write well...
I miss the time where Rob is doing those no non sense interviews. The ones even HImself CRACKs up by his own craziness. :)
Ahhh... fame/$$ can change in a mili seconds in HW.
Okay...I'll wait til after Breaking Dawn is in the movies to get convinced they have a relationship. My gut feeling is.. yes...they are flirty w each other...but they are capitalizing on their on screen chemistry to make Twi rake in more dough.
$ummit is loving it..(why not)and wants to keep it going til the $aga is complete!
I get it also that Rob/Ks is enjoying it...they do get on really well. All the cast members seems to have a good relationship and having fun ...too.
Can't wait for Rob to move on to to better and serious roles. He is a true artist!
And I'm sorry, Robert and Kristen are not in on a publicity stunt to help New Moon's publicity.
They don't have to do jack shizz, and they are on the covers of magazines weekly nonetheless. They don't need to add fuel to an existing fire.
Summit may benefit from the talk, but they sure as hell don't. The long this franchise plays out the more both of these poor bastards have "Edward" and "Bella" tattooed on their forehead-NOT good for their careers long term.
Kristen at least has a solid resume to fall back on. Robert doeesn't. Robert is NOT stupid, he's not going to add to his overexposure by pulling publicity stunts for New Moon, six months in advance!
It's completely illogical to think he would.
@ rosa: I agree. And I really wish Catherine Hardwicke had never started blabbing about their chemistry.
If this was a publicity stunt, it is way too premature for them to get together. Look at the promotion for Twilight last year. Kristen's boyfriend was a steady fixture in the promotion, consciously being included in pictures in Rome, London, etc. Summit didn't want them to look together, but they wanted us to believe they had a sweet crush on one another that was harmless and innocent.
Now, if that's their strategy, having them shack up at the infamous Chateau Marmont is NOT what the studio wants for an image. Or them looking like they hadn't showered in a week WHILE staying in the Marmont. That's NOT the studio's hand there; if anything that has Robert and Kristen's fingerprints on it.
It's too premature for publicity's sake to have "Edward" and "Bella" get together offscreen. If this was Breaking Dawn time, maybe. But we are only one movie into the franchise.
You guys remember how fun Pam and Jim were when they were just flirting but she was taken? You know how god awful boring they are now they're together. YEP, there's a reason why the studio don't want them together this prematurely for publicity's sake.
@rosa:
If they desired discretion, then where is the logic in this weekend? There was none. They are now obviously enjoying this speculation, for either the publicity or the power that it gives them.
Staying at a high profile hotel in LA of all places? Wearing their signature bum clothes? Attending a concert by a well known friend? Sharing a room?
They surely want to be seen and talked about. They could have driven separately, thirty minutes out of town, and had all the privacy they wanted.
So either they are in love and being coy, therefore inviting a shitstorm of speculation and restricting their own words and actions every time they are in the public eye, or they are playing it for publicity.
French-hi. Discretion wasn't the point, is my thinking. This was planned and planned in Los Angeles cause his people are here and could be more controlled than sightings in say, Vancouver.
And there's a third option, of them not being coy(by not confirming, that way they never have a confirm a breakup either), so much as doing a slow rollout. They could be letting fans get used to the notion of them "maybe" being together, before they hit people with more signs of a definite romantic relationship. This is a common move, and I wouldn't be surprised if with time they will show more signs publicly of being together.
If you looked at the pictures of them this last week, they don't look like they are having fun with this whole thing--I think it's a strategy definitely, but not one they necessarily would have chosen on their own if they were under normal circumstances. They both looked miserable coming from that very public lunch date.
Where I think I am stumbling is over the "slow roll out". Presumably banging it up in a hotel, leaving in the morning disheveled like slobs is pretty overt. There are more genteel ways to prep the public for their love story.
But the thing that strikes me is they almost always had a chaperone for the sightings, even at the hotel. When they were seen going up, his friend was with them. HIs friends at the lunch. His manager is at the second concert. I think they always look disheveled, both of them are hot messes always. lol The only thing that looked off to me was her walk of shame. But all the other "stuff" counters it, where it's like they are just doing what they always did as a cast on set-strumming the old guitar into the late hours with friends.
@ rosa: I agree. And I really wish Catherine Hardwicke had never started blabbing about their chemistry.
Honest to God rosa I agree with your comment here...I saw Twilight, but never did see any chemistry between the Rob and Kris, and thought someone was going out on a limb to make the public buy into it too for the sake of the movie and fans wanted that to be true because of the books.
Personally, I think Rob may be the kind of guy who wants what he cannot have and once he gets it, it is on to the next conquest (so to speak). He said he was attracted to Kris, but she had a boyfriend. Now allegedly they are broken up and Rob could be seeing Kris, but I think once the bloom wears off, he will be gone. He even said in an interview that he was not a good boyfriend to have, that he was a "dick", and that even S. Meyer said in an interview that same day (the day he was giving his interview), he would not be a good boyfriend and Rob laughed about her comment as if it was true.
Only time will tell!!
@Rosa - My "theory" regarding the walk of shame is that it has been rumored that Summit didn't want Rob to be seen coming out of clubs or appearing as if he had been drinking. They probably went back to his hotel room with his friend in tow and they probably all got a little smashed. That would explain KS coming out of the hotel the next day. I am sure that if she were drunk she wouldn't want to be seen as so while she is still underage and just crashed there until morning. IMHO I think that if she had planned to stay the night she would have at least brought a change of clothes, but that's just me!!!
Yes brown eyed girl...I have to agree that was a walk of shame if there ever was one. She really looked bad, as if she had pulled an all nighter.
Yes, why always have a chaparone? They are both adults. At 19, I was shacking up with my BF. She's an adult. I don't see the "romance" when they are rarely ever alone, except to have dinner after an awards show or a drink after a group meal.
I think that's why it's a slow public roll out though if they are together, because they are never pictured alone really and they don't do pda.
My theory about her walk of shame(and it really was...lol) is that maybe that was NOT part of the plan, and remember they were on their own when the left the concert. and then voila! THAT night, they are getting chaperoned by not just the jerry seinfield doppelganger manager dude, but his agent too. They were both sitting on stools with the agent, the mangager, and mangers's SO behing them. WTF?lol Like disciplined schoolchildren. The backstage picture is hilarious.
I think Rob and Kris are just trying to live a normal life. I don't think they were doing it for publicity. In fact, they've been going out of their way not to be seen together in public. But for Rob to skip the concerts of his long-time friends and for Kris to turn down an invitation from Rob to meet them in order to avoid getting papped would be like letting the pappz run ther lives. It would be silly.
For the record, the pappz were unsuccessful in getting a pic of them together until their lunch at the Pallihouse. Papz had nothing on Rob and Kris before that except for indivudual pics posted together in blogs with captions that the two "secretly met" blah blah blah, which none of us would have believed anyway the same way we've been calling crap on the gossip rags which have been running these Robsten speculations for months. What made us believe they could be dating now? The fan pics and the fan accounts. In fact, the gossip blogs used these same fan accounts to run their Robsten story. We happen to know these fans and we couldn't discount what they saw with their own eyes. Without these fan accounts, we would still be calling crap on the news the same way we treated all the Robsten news in the past.
Robsten did not just happen this weekend. It may have been going on for while now since Rob took Kris to Sam Bradley's concert and then sandwiched her between his parents in a cab on their way to his b-day party. Rob also stayed on in Italy to wait for Kris even when he finished filming two days ahead; then there was that long goodbye at the Charlie Hotel; and now this.
Pappz will continue to follow Rob and Kris until they get their money shot because evidence from fan accounts keep piling up that they are a couple. If these two wanted publicity, they would simply do PDA, but they don't. They're private people just trying to live a normal life.
i didn't read through all the comments...but does anyone really care if they are/aren't together??? this is one of the things that i hate about celebrity b/s drama...concentrate more on their work than their personal relationships...
the only time i will step up and give a damn is when it ruins the movies...that's when it will matter what is really going on...until then...leave them be.
rosa...I agree the walk of shame was not planned, not at all complimentary of Kris and quite painful to see. She looked more or less like she was caught with her pants down.
Rosa - Agreed.That walk of shame was not meant to be seen.
The lack of PDA at the PalliHouse was probably because there were still witnesses around. If y'all notice there was this lady at another table with dark hair. Rob and Kris walked right passed her table.They both looked back in a way acknowledging her. She may have said something to them because Rob had a smile on his face. Then it was that older guy that walked passed them. He might have worked there or was a customer who was going in and out.
So if Summit is controlling it like it looked at CC..."no personal questions"..and Kris saying to Nikki "Summit want you to stop talking now". Then why not tell the "love birds" to keep their relationship on the down low?
Summit cares about making money and all of the unnecessary questions about Rob and Kris are overshadowing their movie. They already had a huge amount of bad press over the Rachelle thing.Fans were extremely upset and that would have cost them a huge box office for NM. So why not start doing damage control. They know they can't stop Rob and Kris from seeing each other, but they sure as hell can stop them from talking and putting them on different flights. Summit is paying them and they are under contract to promote NM and NOTHING else. And since their relationship is now going in a different direction.Summit most definitely can come back to them and tell them to do certain things. This is a whole NEW ballgame.
One thing is for sure: Summit does have a bad image in the eyes of the fans. Other companys whose (potential) customers thought so bad of them would hire someone for crisis pr to turn that image around.
Why don't we all just get over ourselves. They do not give a shit about all our speculation. They are just getting on and living their own lives. More power to them!! Please yourself about offering your opinions but why delude ourselves that whatever we think will make one bit of difference to how they really feel about each other and what they choose to do about it. At the end of the day we all make our own choices for our own reasons and if you are true to yourself the opinions of others just do not weigh in that heavily. Move on people. We all have lives to live. Let's just appreciate this beautiful man for what he gives to each of us individually. We all agree he's hot that's why we're here. How about we share those feelings again - that used to be fun!!
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