Analysis: Can Rob Become a Movie Star?
From The Hollywood Reporter:
If you thought Rob Pattinson looked brooding and serious in "Twilight," you ain't seen nothing yet.
The moussed-one is currently in talks to star in a movie called "Memoirs" for "Twilight" studio Summit. The picture deals with a young romantic relationship, but no campy vampire sequences here --these are relationships touched by tragedy (two, in fact, according to the logline). Jenny Lumet -- she of light comedic romp "Rachel Getting Married" -- is doing a rewrite on the script. It even has a serious _name._ This is a no-nonsense turn for Pattinson.
It's no surprise, after the runaway success and cacophonous squeals that came with "Twilight" that Summit would want to be in the Rob Pattinson business. The actor, now with Endeavor, overcame early blog-world skepticism to generate tons of fan enthusiasm and media in his role as the goodhearted, if opaque, teen vampire.
But what Pattinson-mania doesn't address is his post-"Twlight" drawing power -- a time that is coming sooner than you'd think, given that three of the four potential movies in the franchise will have come out by next summer. Sure, tons of teenage girls went to see him in "Twlight," but they went to see him in an adaptation of a book they've adored and re-read. Will they flock to him when he's not an unattainable, chaste member of the undead?
He'll have his work cut out for him, at least in a couple projects he's already shot. Viewers can see Pattinson in May in Regent Releasing's (they of foreign-language fare like "Departures") arthouse title "Little Ashes, in which Pattinson plays Salvador Dali, that ol' hunky pinup. And those who don't want to wait even that long can hit the fest circuit now, where a small indie called "How To Be" is currently making the rounds. The pic is a dramedy about a man with an existential crisis who calls upon a self-help guru. It won an honorable mention at Slamdance, to give you an idea.
You see, Pattinson, for all his media celebrity, is caught in that weird netherworld where he's on the cusp of major stardom but still has movies that came out of a less heady time in his career. That transitional period could be embarrassing for young actors (see under: Anne Hathaway in "Havoc") or it could just be surreal (literally; see under: Pattinson as a Spanish surrealist).
The bigger question is what happens to Pattinson after this wave, with the choices he makes now - does his career go commercial or critical, pinup or Oscar? And does he become a box-office draw in his own right?
A quick look at other teen hearthrobs who burst on the scene after starring in a massively popular movie shows there's a path to that goal, but not an easy one.
There was, of course, a post-Titanic Leo. He's the rare bird, the serious actor who also gets the girls swooning. But his and Pattinson's situations aren't really analogous. As cheesily romantic as "Titanic" was, it also won a gang of Academy Awards. And Leo previously had a host of serious acting credits like "Basketball Diaries." Pattinson is best known for playing Cedric Diggory in Harry Potter, the kind of role in which, as one Potter wiki has it, he "attend(ed) Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry...and was sorted into Hufflepuff."
There's Tobey Maguire, who rode "Spider-Man" to a reasonably successful non-superhero career in movies like "Seabiscuit." But Maguire's celebrity came when he was already well into his twenties, a different undertaking entirely.
There's Elijah Wood, who was part of "Lord of the Rings," the biggest moneymaking franchise among the under-25 set of the early 00's. Wood's career floundered after that -- he was part of hit movies like "Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind" but only as an ensemble player; the pictures he tried to carry were either good and not seen ("Green Street Hooligans") or bad and not seen ("Everything Is Illuminated"). Of course that's probably not a good comparison either -- his initial appeal was of the ensemble sort, and Wood was more cuddly than studly anyway.
The best analogue might be to Wood's "Rings" costar Orlando Bloom. Like Pattinson, Bloom was in his early twenties when he gained his Beatles-esque fame with teenage girls. And like Pattinson, he brought a British swagger to a well-known genre-leaning property that would go on to be quickly franchised over the next few years.
How did that go for Bloom? The actor was able to replicate his "Rings" success with "Pirates of the Carribean." But he needed Johnny Depp to do it. Without an A-list lead to play against, he hasn't done much. That's because the fact is, it's a lot easier to become a teen heartthrob than to stay one, or to turn it into a long-term career.
None of this even gets into the question of acting talent and range, which Pattinson has yet to display (though, granted, it's not like the Edward Cullen part gave him much chance).
Sought after by pretty much any studio and producer who wants to reach a young audience, Pattinson has the world at his feet. We'll see whether it becomes a world of meaty roles or just of bloody flesh.
Thanks to our lovely Kate for the link :)
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Memoirs sounds like a high-quality project, I hope it works out! And I sure hope Rob does NOT stay a teen heartthrob (if that's what he is). He has better things to do with his career!
I don't like it, when they talk about Elijah and Orlando like failures in every single context. I mean can't every actor do what they want without this whole "aww, he failed he's carrier, such a pity". I don't think Rob, for example, wants to be in a spotlight in a long notice. I think, in time, he'll fall back to do what he wants (not being a teen-heartthrob), too. Like he said in some interview, that at least now no one can tell him, he isn't recognizable enough so he has more cards on his hands.
But anyways, Memoirs sounds pretty nice :) Hope it turns out good.
I hope it's a role that he's working towards because he trusts the people at Summit, and that he loves the part. Everything else is redundant and unimportant. IMO. And I bet in Rob's opinion, as well. :) He seems to get what's good for his career.
I really think he can become a "movie star". I mean, of course "Twilight" permits him to become famous, but we can see that with movies such as "How To Be" and "Little Ashes", he really has potential to become one of the best actor. After all, that's just a question of choice : either he'll do the good choices, and he'll have a brilliant career; or he won't, and we know all how it'll finish...
But I remember that he said in an interview that after he played in "Harry Potter", he was only offered to play roles in teen movies (and no, "Twilight" isn't a teen movie ^^). And he refused them, that's why he was about to give up acting until he was enrolled to play Edward... You all know the story :)
So I think he'll make the good choices :D
I was wondering when the comparison of Rob and Orlando would come up. Though I can't know this, I think Orlando was pushed to do roles that he wasn't ready for (Kingdom of Heaven) or were a mess from the get-go (Elizabethtown); I don't think that he's a 'failure' though. Its tricky when someone is so associated with a franchise to break out of that. I hope that Rob can find roles that he likes and is able to establish a solid identity as an actor (if that's what he wants) with skills.
I'm not sure Rob wants to become a 'movie star' anyway, especially given all the craziness he has to put up with right now. It looks like he just wants to make good movies, and that's fine by me! (as long as he gets naked in a couple of them, of course)
Yes, Rob can become a movie star - if he wants. Not sure if 'they' realize that Rob has other fans besides teen girls. The man can act and I can't wait to see him sink his teeth into some different roles besides Twilight -although I do love me some Edward Cullen. I see him going the Leo Dicaprio way.
I think he has vast potential to become a serious actor. His fan base is not all screaming tweens, he has an army of real women out here who are dying to see him in other, more serious roles. Those women aren't cycling through a fad, they are much more permanent. As long as he can deliver a decent performance, he will draw an audience. But the article is right, at this point, I'm not sure of his acting skills because Twi was so over the top. If he's bad (heaven forfend), he's bad.
Well, one good thing is that Rob has other projects coming out while the Twilight saga is still in production. I think Little Ashes will be his first critical success. He is awesome and heart rending as Dali.
I have a different opinion, I think Rob should not do Memoirs. Twilight is already a love story and Rob should do a movie where the focus should NOT be a love story anymore something different.
If his manager Nick is smart, they will avoid another love story, its not like it is going to be another titanic.... Other than twilight Summit has not produced any great hit or critically acclaimed movie. After twilight, Rob should work with other people so his talent can be discovered by other producers and directors. For longevity of career, he can do a critically acclaimed supporting roles. That was what Leo did after the "Beach" flopped. He did gangs of new york and he was not the leading leading man there.
I believe Rob has a long, flourishing acting career ahead of him after The Twilight Saga. Simply because there is no way you can typecast him. Judging from the films he has already starred in- not one character looks alike, or even sounds alike! He really is like a chameleon! I look forward to seeing his future projects. I already have my tickets for How to Be on 4/24 and will certainly see Little Ashes in Chelsea. Can't wait. ;}
The comparisons aren't that bad, at least there was no mention of Efron... Those actors were not only what I would call teen heart throbs.
I think it has everything to do with the movies they chose to play in: Elija woods chose movies that I did not feel like watching because of the theme. I saw some one of his previous movie by chance and found it very good though (one were he has lost his memory and is in a weird hospital...). I haven't seen any movie with Orlando Bloom where he was the only lead character, that doesn't mean that he is a failure... Taking part in Lord of the rings and Pirates of the carabean is a big deal, many actors would have loved to be welcomed in just one movie of this kind. Of course, we don't hear about them so much, but that doesn't mean that they don't work at all anymore.
I just hope that Rob can find interesting projects in the future and become a very good actor. But there are only so many Johnny Depp and Leonardo Di Caprio, so let's not put too much pressure on him.
Long Time lurker
You all expressed what I'm thinking. I truly believe Rob has the potential to be an excellent actor. He's brilliant and seems to be a very quick study. Others have already had the opportunity to see evidence of this with Little Ashes and How To Be.
Smitten re: your point about his
having other projects coming out so soon and in the middle of Twilight hype. He's gotten good reviews, that I can see, and this will help to sideline the stigma of being a hot vampire. it's just unfortunate these are small and indie films which are not having enough exposure and are missing out on wide release. I'm surprised that wasn't able to be changed, considering his popularity.
We love you Rob and we have confidence in you! We want you to be successful in what makes you happy though. The world is your oyster, that is if you like oysters. If you want your world to be a clam, then go for it babe!
On a boring note, has his representation changed?
The thing is really, is that Rob has always picked the movie he does by "interest in script". If Rob likes the script, then Rob will do the movie offered to him. Period.
Commercial, Oscar Style, Low budget, it doesn't even matter.
Today's industry is all about making the buck and maybe some actors are all for that, but Rob is in it for the sheer pleasure of just acting, being someone else, escaping his own world for a spell.
With that said, I think "Memoirs" is a great idea and it's all good things for Rob. I want him to get out there and do other things. We will all love him as Edward Cullen, but I don't want that title with him for the rest of his career.
Rob will go far in this business. And us fans will follow him anywhere he goes!! :)
~Tina~
I agree with you, m. I was just talking to a friend the other day about Rob's vocal performance...and I wasn't talking about his singing (though I could go on for days about that, too). But I love the control he has over his voice in his various parts. He always sounds different, looks different, moves differently. It's really quite astounding.
Still DYING to see Little Ashes.
And if he likes this Memoirs part, I hope he gets it. The description is pretty vague, so I suppose I don't have an opinion...yet! lol
not sure i agree, though, about him not doing a romantic role. Let's face, many many successful movies have a romantic theme. I think it's a perfectly sensible segue.
Is Rob no longer with Stephanie Ritz? It says in the article that he is now with Endeavor... sounds like a change in reps. Anyone know?
I seriously wish the media would get a clue about Rob's fans...
We're not all screaming tweens... Edward Cullen is the teen heartthrob, not Rob. Rob's real fans, the smart, mature, funny women (like those that post here) like him for so many reasons other than his role in Twilight. Those tweens will likely lose interest in him after all four Twilight movies have been filmed and released but his true fans will follow him throughout a long, sucessful career. And the boy will enjoy a much deserved break from the scream fests. I can't wait to see his career flourish.
Good luck to you Rob! We'll be here watching and supporting you every step of the way!
I think Stephanie Rittz works under Endeavor Agency.
I am thrilled that Rob has this opportunity to carefully choose his next role. I also have every faith in his judgment as I know he is very serious and knowledgeable about finding the right script.
IMO he would be aiming more to emulate Jack Nicholson's career than anyone elses. I agree that probably the last thing Rob strives for is being forever known as a heartthrob--although he certainly makes my heart and other bodily areas throb!
I do not think that doing another love story after Twilight is being redundantly typecast. While it is true that Twilight is a love story, it is more widely seen as a vampire story. If he were considering as his next project, "The Return of Dracula", THAT would have me concerned. Most stories are love stories to some degree and Memoirs strikes me as being more about the tragedies than the romance.
I also get annoyed when he is seen as attracting only the teens. I think the reason Twilight did so well at the BO is the adult woman following. Being one of those, I am beside myself with excitement at the prospect of being able to watch Rob have a long career as a respected actor. Daniel Gale is proof enough for me that he is fully capable of taking on the sky as his limit.
What pressure to be under at such a young age. I think that he is picky about the roles he chooses, and has made the right decisions thus far. He has the potential to carry his acting career as far as he would like to take it.
If he is as humble and shy as he portrays himself - I am not sure how far that will be. Reading the blogs, and watching interviews it seems he is very nervous, and really taken back by all the attention.
I would like for him to make more music, possibly put out a CD. He is very talented.
Rob has been with Endeavor for a long time and I think Stephanie is also with Endeavor.
This article brought up some good points. Rob's career could go either way at the end of Twilight. As much as I like him and believe he's got some real acting chops, this whole worldwide obsession with him is pretty out of hand, and the only place to go from it is down. Fortunately, down would be good for Rob if "down" means he can settle in a bit and choose good scripts and have some of his life back.
Because he is so huge right now, he has no hope of maintaining this stature in the eyes of critics. No follow-up movie(s) will be good enough for everyone. Any drop from glory will be seen as a failure by some.
I was heartened when I read Rob's take on his future in acting in the GQ interview. This guy just wants to do quality work. If the quality work isn't there, he will move onto something else. People like Rob take risks and do what feels right and the rest of the world be damned.
I don't care how big his career gets as long as he stays true to himself.
There is no real comparison between him and those actors. Rob has more depth,charm, and wisdom beyond his years. Before the fame hit Rob took chances at playing interesting and unusual roles. Now that risk taking is going to set him even further apart.
I'm glade to here about Memoirs and it does sound interesting. I know that he will bring the emotional depth needed to play his character. Rob I have belief in your talents and the choices you make in picking roles. Keep doing YOU and best of ... I not gonna say the word.
Because believe in your Talents and not the dreaded word I refuse to say. That's what has gotten you here to this point and place in time, TALENT. Okay bb :P
I think Rob is amazing and I will see anything he is in. Hands down. It may take some time to break away from the fangirls, but underneath, I think he is very talented and has a long career ahead of him. :-)
I´m sure whichever way Rob chooses to go, it´ll be successful...I mean he has all of us behinf him right? Honestly, as long as he is happy with his choices I´ll be happy with his work!I do like me some quirky Rob though, hope he chooses to go down that path too.
rachel getting married has a great script
i hope rob signs with next lumet´s project
I'm bettin' on him winning oscars. Hell yeahs.
I'm sick of the teen thing. What are we "chopped liver!"lol Why don't they ask Goz to write an article about him? I wish!
Rob is multi-talented and dimensional. I think, if he wants, the world is at his feet. Whether he acts, sings, plays music or just hangs out he will be successful. Can't wait to follow him. Stop comparing because there is no comparing as far as he goes.
I think comparing him to these actors is ridiculous. Not that they are lacking but they are all so different.
My heart breaks to think of Rob not acting and not getting to enjoy his talent for years to come. I am convinced we have only seen him scratch the surface of his talent. Good for him if he can walk away from it - he's got his head on straight. I don't believe that will happen. Rob's here to stay and so are his fans.
Smitten~Have you seen "Little Ashes"?? You said he was good in it. I thought it had not been released yet.
I'm in agreement with KK. I think at this point the only place for Rob to go is downward...and I, too, think this is actually good. There's just too much frenzy right now...
I hope Rob takes it slowly so he doesn't burn himself out.
Is being a movie star his actual desire? He gives the impression he wants to be a good actor which is not necessarily the same thing.
Rob has spoken about eventually having his own production company which I think is the way to go. Then, he can develop his own projects.
Having a successful film is always a crapshoot. There are just too many variables. An actor can do a great job and the director and editor can chop it up. As so many actors have said in the past--you just do your best and hope the film comes together in a good way. There is no knowing what the final result will be...
I'm sure he'll do something very different during the break between "New Moon" and "Eclipse." I read that he was signed for "Ohio" which is about the 1970 Kent State student killings (by the National Guard while protesting the VietNam War). That sounds like an excellent project...more serious and mature subject matter.
I think he has a really great support team. Just from past interviews it sounds like his mom has his back. They seem like a close knit family. I'm sure his family keeps him very grounded.
And another thing Rob is so smart. Even if he is goofy at time, he is so aware of waht "this" is. His appeal for me is his personality and talent. I absolutely fell for him after seeing a few interviews and then I watched Haunted Airman and Bad Mothers Handbook on youtube and thought that he was fabulous. Then after seeing his trailers for Little Ashes, How to Be and the Summer House, I was blown away. He totally morphs into these very different characters. I agree he's more like a Depp. But I prefer to think that he is one of a kind.
I'm excited about any new movies he'll film. I'm sure he will pick great scripts.
Love you Rob!!!
I'm sure that Rob can become a movie star.. if he wants. He's been stated in past interviews that he wants to go the Leo DiCaprio way, so I hope he (and his management) can make good decisions about his future projects.
I just know that I want him to have a long, successful career in acting, music, writing or whichever area he chooses. And of course, I want him to be happy. Yep, when it comes to Rob I'm the biggest sappy of the world :)
I agree w/ WinWin. Rob is smart! I have seen actors come & go in my day. My bet is on Rob to stay and hell, yeah bring on the Oscars! Since he was snubbed this year, I bet that won't happen again. Remember, in his journal he wrote "please don't give me all of my luck at once". Bless his heart, we'll support you Rob!
This guy is one of a kind! There is no one to compare him to. Love this guy! Can't wait to see "Little Ashes" and "How To Be".
My bet is that he can stand the test of time, if he decides to.
Of course he can become a Movie Star.
I would ask if he wants to.
Rob doesn't seem to care about his 'star' status. He doesn't like working under pressure and being in a spotlight. I don't think he loves this enviroment also. It's really hard to say what will happen with his career.
But I'm sure it will be his decison and the right decision.
Oh and I think you can be a great actor without being a movie star. And you don't have to be a good actor to be a movie star.
Movie star status, for me, is connected with fame (talking about your private life in interviews, paps and stalkers), not high quality.
We will always be there for you, Rob, no matter what happens!
"Oh and I think you can be a great actor without being a movie star. And you don't have to be a good actor to be a movie star."
VERY WELL SAID!!
Chicago Girl - I love reading your insights. You have some real wisdom, girl!!
I have faith in Robert and his intelligence and judgment in choosing future projects. I see him having a bright future, and I think he well understands it's all about choices
KK~Wow, you made my day/week---ditto to you. :))) Thanks so much!
Peter Travers, movie critic for Rolling Stone, thinks Robert has "the stuff to endure in Hollywood and have a big career".
Amen Peter Travers. Thanks Phos.
Ok... I'm gonna go ahead and ask the obvious here. Is this person smokin' crack?! For once, I would really like someone to do an accurate demographic of Rob's fan base. I bet that people (including Rob) would be shocked at how many of us btwn the ages of 25-35 are members of the Church of Rob and attend worship on a daily basis, regardless of the whole Twilight thing. And he can't really be compared to any other actors because he is totally unique and more versatile in a way that we really haven't seen before. In the end, Rob will end up doing what he wants AND reaching his own level of success because THAT'S what is really important to him, whether that means a typical (or atypical, however you want to look at it) movie star, a great musician, a writer, producer, or whatever.
And to whoever wrote this - haven't you learned yet that Rob is like a groundhog?! If you make him think too much about the attention, he gets scare of his own shadow and runs back inside. And I will be super peeved if you mess up my 'Robflow.' When that happens, we all suffer.
BTW - I'm betting on Rob winning the Grammy first and completely by accident too. Such a Rob moment...
Rob can be anything he wants! He had me at "hello" and I'm far from a teen. I had never seen him until he came onto the screen in that lunchroom(Twilight). Never even heard of him. There were gasps in the audience. I was one of them. Need I say more. Very few teens were in that audience!
Anon- I think you should check out Vanity Fair on DVD. He was cut out when they had the movie in theaters. He was at the end of the movie and played Reese Witherspoon character grown up son. I saw that DVD finally a few years back and I heard about him being cut out. So when I finally saw him open up that door to the front gate to greet Reese's character I was like DAMN, he is pretty and I was mesmerized but not only by his good looks but acting skills. I felt they made a big mistake at cutting him out. He really did have a presence in those last few scenes with Reese. And I remember just hoping and praying to see him again in another film. So here it is years later and Rob shows up in a really big way....
Thanks, Shani! I will definitely check Vanity Fair out. Can I take it? lol
Shani, glad you appreciated him then and got to see him again!
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