I think my brain just exploded...or maybe it was just my uterus...
From Kent News UK:
KENT NEWS: The trustees of an old pump house which is being used to film a steamy orgy scene with Twilight heart-throb Robert Pattinson said they had no idea the shoot would be so raunchy, writes Chris Murphy.
Film company Redwave Films is taking over the Crossness pumping station in Erith for three days of filming next week.
Pattinson is starring in Bel Ami, and plays lothario reporter Georges Duroy who sleeps his way to the top of the business and seduces wealthy women.
Kill Bill star Uma Thurman is also on the cast list, as his wife, in the film based on the classic novel by Guy de Maupassant.
And Christina Ricci stars as Clotilde de Marelle, alongside Kristin Scott Thomas, both of whom fall under his spell. The crew have been on site for 10 days preparing the sets and will spend three days taking it all down again.
The orgy scene will take place in a Parisian café being created in the Victorian landmark that will be open to the public later this year.
Pattinson, 23, who has also starred in Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix, said: “There is a lot of sex.”
He told movie bible Variety: “It’s a totally amoral character. In Paris, everybody was just going nuts.
It was like the 1980s. Sex was a kind of a weapon and a tool, and it’s odd.” Of the sex scenes, he said “there’s something very mercenary about it in a lot of ways”.
The station was opened by the Prince of Wales in 1865 and is undergoing renovation helped by lottery funding, government money and £20,000 from the film company.
The station was built to pump London’s sewage into a reservoir before it was discharged into the Thames at high tide.
The station houses the largest rotative beam engines in the world, built by James Watt and Sons, but these will be covered up by the film set.
Both the building and the cast-iron machinery are being restored to their former glory by the Crossness Engines Trust and the station is open to the public by appointment before its general opening this year.
Pump station trustee Mike Jones had no idea there was going to be a romp on site.
He said: “I am on the set for one of the days, so that should be interesting. It is so cold in here I can’t think anyone would want to perform something like that.
“I’m sure it will all be done in the best possible taste. I’d no idea what they were going to film, only that it was a Parisian café.”
The station is being transformed into a 19th century French dining room to shoot the scene.
One source said: “It will be tastefully done with lots of candlelight and lace, but it will be the sexiest thing Robert’s ever been seen in and will get his female fans even more excited.”
A spokesman for the film said: “It will be really great fun filming in Kent. This is a great location.”
The movie is due out next year.
Thanks to Laura for the tip :)
163 comments:
How much is a flight to London? If I leave right now... Where's that flipping passport?
With smoking HOT SEXY ROB, the cameras just might melt.
this should be interesting...there was no orgy in the book...
gulp!
is it hot in here???
Angie, little bit, yeah. Whew! (Taking off sweater now.)
Holy crap! I almost broke my hand trying to click on this post!! The hell with the building info~~Holy Lord, the sex scenes will........I can't even think about that, it's just gonna be too freakin' hot! We're so dead.
@angie
Hot and bothered!!!
lol @Gwen! hot! yeah! (fanning self!) there goes that damn imagination of mine again...
@Gwen
I'm gonna melt right along with those cameras! Jesus H. Christ!
@RPG
LMAO~I'll have to wear a modesty patch just to watch this movie!!
jc,
no kidding! Be ripping our clothes off all over that theater...
They will need fire hoses in there just to hose us down... Might as well hang them from the ceiling... Goog god I will have to see this movie ALONE!!
OMG I almost crushed my mouse trying to click on this. What orgy? don't recall it in script, but bring it on!!! Hell with the modesty patch, I'm just going to wrap myself in ShamWows!!! GAH. We will not survive this movie ladies. At least not with our ovaries and uterus's intact.
Sorry but I think someone had their wires crossed, there IS no orgy in the script NOR in the book..so there has to be some sort of misunderstandig somewhere LOL. But er..if there is one in the movie still this movie will def be R rated lol. Or maybe X rated lmao
Find it strange that they are putting an orgy in this movie when neither book or script had it..so I think this may be a mixup of things IMO.
I´m so sad, why didn´t choose to be an actress??
I´m promise that an other life will be an actress..I can´t wait to see just a little of that movie.
Uma, Christina and kristin, you are a lucky women, enjoy now because later it´s finish, lol
I'm coming with you Gwen! I don't know if I'll survive RM imagine Bel Ami!
Ohh my GOD!
Did anyone else black out when they saw this thread's title?!?
I just saw Robert & Orgy and then that was all she wrote.
One question though...Can we preorder the tickets to this flick NOW?!?
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Oh. My. God. I. Will. Just. Die.
I am going to need some kind of supervision when I see this scene, and for the sake of my family it had better not be my DH!!
and LMFAO @ jc! I think we'll all need some extra protection for this!
@RPG/Haystack
LMFAO~~overhead hoses and shamwows!! hahahahahaha
lmao @Haystackhair!! ShamWows!! you ain't kidding 'bout that!!
RPG - can you send me the script??? please?
out loud...
FUCK I CAN'T WAIT FOR BEL AMI!!!!!!!
LOL! RPG, was just checking the script! Thinking there's no orgy in the book and maybe I just missed (hah, snort) the orgy scene in the script. Thanks for the validation! ; ) Not crazy!
(Like anyone could miss Rob and an orgy scene...)
This was the last part of a Post article, from Rob, regarding the sexy role:
"I think there's a kind of irony in Bel Ami, because a lot of the women are attracted to my character," says Pattinson, smiling ever so slightly, "and then he kind of screws them over and steals their money, which I think is quite funny compared to my Twilight character."
LMAO Haystack! ShamWows indeed....
Orgy? Hell yeah! Do they need extras for that? If so where do I sign?
Now, after calmig down I've got to say: Apart from the viewing pleasure I don't see why they would film such a scene. there was no orgy, neither in the book nor in the script... maybe it's a dream sequence or sth. But however Rob in an orgy is just too good not to film it. The more the merrier:-))
LMAO @ Haystack!
@RPL
We need the Robcave more than ever. The appreciation of NB's for Mr. P is unparalelled! We definitely need our own viewing room! Jeez, I haven't even seen RM or Eclipse and I'm freakin' over BA. Girls, we have a lot to live for!!!!
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Why am I on holiday then!!!!
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
I live in Bloody Kent for F sake
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
cruel world...
@Gwen
I have always accessed this blog from twitter. I LOVE twitter!!!!
@ rpattzgirl You guys are going to set out the fire detector at the theater! LOl
A a a a...I mean, can we be MORE excited than now??? ;D
angie-k on the to ya!
jc, I think it's been WAY too long since we had a cave meeting! What do you say, NB's, party in the Robcave tonight?!
I need it after this! =)
Dessert: do you think if we bombard the film company hard enough they'd come back for re-takes in two weeks' time?
It would give us enough time to plan how to get our arses onto that film set.
Where in Bel Ami (the book) is there an orgy scene? Not that I really mind... LOL...
Orgy??? Obviously they are not following the book. Oh well, at least it won't be PG-13!
This could be very hot!!!
@dessert
OH NO!!! Well, sister, at least you can visit the scene of the crime. hahaha~~ btw, good name for the location: Crossness "pumping" station. LOL!!!
ok, after many deep breaths and chance to calm down, it is only rational to believe this is some sort of teaser or false trail....
but what a most lovely mental image it produced!!!
Bel Ami is going to kill us all...no one here gets out alive...
Gwen, the new pics...oh hot damn!!
Dessert!!! Noooooooooooooooooo!
So feel your pain! Now, GO HOME and find THE PRETTY! Pix of the orgy!
LOL.
Someone needs to find the list of upcoming film shoot locations. LA does this---they post info on shoot permits granted to whichever company and for what movie/tv/commercial (although some use faux names). Used to keep on eye on 1013 Productions for a reason!
@Gwen
"I think there's a kind of irony in Bel Ami, because a lot of the women are attracted to my character," says Pattinson, smiling ever so slightly, "and then he kind of screws them over and steals their money, which I think is quite funny compared to my Twilight character."
That's what he does to us! LOL
I'm gonna watch Bel Ami over and over again!
LMAO--no orgy in the book--parisian cafe --think the premier will be in London? the book was steamy throw in rob and *POOF*
love the shamwow and hoses overhead ideas--i definetly need to see this movie alone--with hubby waiting when i get home--LOL
RL calling, BBL...
dessert--that's it--cancel the trip
you need to be there for the orgy--LOL
Are they shooting Bel Ami or Dorian Gray?... In Dorian Gray, you get all the orgy you want but it's weird... This could just be a teaser...LOL...
Life can be so cruel, it only on the other side of the river medway from where I live.
Oh and hi everybody!!! :D
Angie e-mailing you! :)
I think I need a drink!
@RPG
I'd love the script, if it's not too much trouble. I can't believe I haven't gotten around to reading the book. Got a lot on my plate, like everyone else. Barely have time for ff. I think you have my addr.
Just so you ladies know... Crossness isn't actually in Kent at all. It is in the heart of London.. right on the Thames actually.. a really beautiful building.. It will look spectacular in this movie..
More than likely they will play on the fact that Georges is a debaucher and a scene like this will be purely symbolic of that fact.. Maybe showing an orgy can put across the mercenary aspect of his lust rather than all the intimate one one one scenes in the book/script.. I think it symbolic for his character.
wens, google earth it and you'll see how bloody close I am!!!!
teen boys pay drunk adults to bye them beer!
teen girls pay drunk adults to take them to see Bel Ami!
LOL
Cla B,
I'm afraid you're right... The theater will totally explode with tge heat, the whimpering, the writhing, moaning, screaming .... It will be a mess!
Got it! Thanks RPG!
haven't read the script--is it "loosely" based on the book
OMG when will this movie be out--RM will just be a warm up for this
soory ment to say river themes not medway!!!!
LOL @Cla!
Ya know it's not like these period costumes are easy access either... There's so many layers!!! Will he just whip it out, or pants down????
Oh god, my fever is back...
Gozde, this is all kinds of cruel, to post this kind of explosive comment when I have got to go!
And think of poor Dessert: you've ruined the holiday she was so looking forward to by showing her what she'll be missing.
I thinking, as compensation to us both you need to find two 'access all areas' stage passes for that film set lickety-split!
LOL!@Cla
Hi Fae!!
@rpg--LOL either is fine :)
@ rpattzgirl Your right! So many layers! It will be a long scene...
Oh my imagination...
**I have the scripts for both Bel Ami and Eclipse if anyone wants a read..
20 minutes by car.....
lol! @ RPG - I was thinking the same thing about the costumes!! Great minds...
I can't even begin to imagine how this movie will play out, but I'm sure they should have paramedics on site for each screening.
I plan on having a heart attack, then go home and attack my husband.
@RPG
When was the zipper commonly used in the manufacturing of clothing? OMG, DuRob might just have some buttonfly BA pants. WooHoo!!!
Nope, no use: I can't hang around any longer. I'll be lurking on my Blackberry but I can't post now till Monday. God, I love this site! and (for the first time, but surely not the last), Fuck, I love that man!
Have a blinder of a holiday, Dessert, despite this incendiary post.
Bye, all!
@wen
LOL~good plan. NB's can work it so all parties benefit from Rob!!!
Sending hugs to Dessert! Poor baby.
@jc--love the button fly idea LOL
who are these children in my house and why do they keep telling me they are hungry???
RL beckons...BBLaters
FIL2DuRob!!! ;)
If I remember correctly the zipper was invented around 1851 but not commonly used until around WW1. I think!
My brain don't work right now so can't write anything that make sense......
@Dessert sorry bb. Can feel you pain.
jc check your email !
After seeing BA and you go back to your husband or BF or whatever you have 2 options:
1. Imagine that he's Rob and try to react the movie scenes
or
2.Get depressed that your not actually married to Rob!
LOL
Hmm, there mdy be zippers but I think buttons, either way sometings gotta come out of somewhere!
@Cla LOL!!!!
GAH! "There is a lot of sex"... Did he really say this?
(°OK, breath, stupid Capitu, breath°)
An orgy... "Rob" and "orgy" in the same sentence... O.M.G!
I'm going out to buy this book to.day!
Do you think they will need some extra-girls in there, while shooting this? I could be of some 'help'...
Thank you, Gözde, for this one too.
Muah! :x
**moaning whilst beset with an effing migraine**
will there be chocolate and how fast can I get to Kent??
**faints in DuRobgasmic pleasure and migraine laced pain**
@RPG
Thanks, angel!!
hi annie! bye annie! can't stall RL any longer...just not quite sure how I'll be able to function after the Bel Ami pics!
fae- catch up with you later!
NBs - my mind is already in the Red Room!!!! bwahahahahaha!!!!
Hi Capitu! Missed you girl! LOL
Clã Bozolinas, you can also have BOTH reactions.
Get 'depressed' and then get out of it ~ and put your imagination to work...
Well, why not?
=)
RPG
LMAO~Somethings gotta give!!!! Crap, I love to sew. Why couldn't I have been a costumer. Sh*t!
Martini
Hope that migraine doesn't last too long. Bummer!
maybe he needs to practice the orgy scene. He can join us in the Robcave ;) Don't you think??
Clã B., where are you in Brasil? If you do not want to say it in here, it is OK.
I live in Campinas, SP. And, only yesterday, I found out that Remember Me will be playing here on the 12th.
Aww, I'm happy with this! I'll be there...
=)
God I hope the sprinklers are working in the movie theatre when we go to see BA, we will need cold showers more than ever after watching all the steamy sex, just imagine a cinema full of lusting women all wanting the same man.....
@annie
Your brain is working just fine, sister!!! I second the practice orgy. OMG
@ Capitu...
Ohh I'm so far away from you: Aracaju-Sergipe! =/
March, 12, here I come!
Hiya, Bing! ; ) (Passes CMG a bag of Dove Dark Chocolates. Gwen buys spares for emergencies.)
No screaming, okay? We have to DROOL quietly as to not aggravate MG's migraine.
Hugs and chocolate! And Pretty, Pretty Rob! Feel better yet?
Someone should warn the man outside the movie theater! After BA it will be a great place to pick up women... if the men don't mind being called Rob...
A group of dazed a lusting women...me specially!
gwen, I think I need the cheapest tequila on the planet so I can forget that Rob is in Kent when I'm on holiday!
*just me*
@Kee--yes, pleassse!link of Bel-Ami script for me, i"m so busy with ff reading and RL, don't really have time to read the original book though it's a shame. thank you!
i have read somewhere there would be about forty girls (mean lucky b*****) in this orgy scene. firstly i didn't believe but after Details i say nothing is unbelievable, i just wonder if they have enough emm pretenders? if not some of us may fit...Bel Ami will be the death of us!
Hey, Clã B., you live in a very beautiful city ~ and you have beaches and long-lasting summer...
I live on a mountain ~ literally! And it gets really cold, sometimes even in the summer.
But it is beautiful, too.
=)
@Capitu wanna switch with me? I'm a cold weather kind of girl! I'd love to live i Forks! LOL
Yes, you do live in a beautiful city, my cousin lives there! ^^
The shooting location is NOT IN KENT!!..
IT'S IN THE HEART OF LONDON RIGHT ON THE THAMES RIVER.... phew.. need to get that point across!..
@Olga.. how do I send you the script?..
Aww, sorry Clã B., I did not see your reply.
I would happily live in a warmer city. I love the mountains, but I miss the beaches.
And no, I would hate Forks. "Any cold, wet thing...". Unless Rob agreed to warm me up there...
Muah!
kee: it is in Kent, near the border with London. I you look on a map it's near Dartford.
Sorry but I live 20 minutes away from it!
I cant take no more!!!!!!
I think I might die after this! How do I get to that set? Must get there...Must get there!
@Cla LOL yes for men to hang out outside the theaters after Bel Ami would probably be beneficial for them!! HaHa!
I know my hubby won't know what hit him when I get home! I can imagine it now...
"Watch out baby, here I come!!! By Georges ur hot! I want to Rob u of all ur clothes!"
OH MY GAAAHH....
HOLY SHHHHIII...
*moans and dies*
I hope it's R rated. No twitards!
omg omg thats what can I say rob you will be my end
my apologies.. I always believed Erith was in London! lol.. and Crossness is further East than Erith- forgive my presumption... I lived for a year in Eltham. (not far away). which is London- right?.. so really Crossness must be bang on the border with Kent
Promotion starts early, I see. LOL By the way, nothing is hotter than Rob and Kristen in Twilight w/ that kiss - maybe because we know all that was behind it. But I'll enjoy seeing Rob's ass n' bits in whatever else he's in. But him and other girls just will never cut it for me like the scenes with him and his baby. REAL LOVE turns me on, if I wanted to see fcking - as John Mayer said, you can Google 300 twahts before you wake up in the morning. LMAO Orgies to me, have always been the LEAST exciting sex ever. oooh look 25 holes, poles and orifices, sexy no? Sexy? Uh, NO. LOL
I love the part where the guy was like "it's really cold down here. I don't know who would want to have to do something like that" so funny!! This movie will be the death of me!! The scenes in Remember Me took me down and it was PG-13. Hey Angie K!!! Not only have u girls turned LCx2 into Twitter addicts but u will turn me into a blogger after all too!!
Would anyone send me the script please!! I'm so behind! I didn't even realize it was out!! My email is ljcargile@crimson.ua.edu
Thank you!
Man, I hope we get some picture (or VIDEO! yes we need video!) of the scenes being filmed. I can't wait for the movie to come out!
@ljcargile I've just sent it to you.
Aw, Goz, you got that right.
Brain and Uterus explosion is absolutely necessary for this. Getting hot and bothered just reading about it.... This movie will kill all of us for sure.
FILTM
Now I really need to see RM, need a 2 hour Rob fix... sigh...
I love the part where the guy was like "it's really cold down here. I don't know who would want to have to do something like that" so funny!! This movie will be the death of me!! The scenes in Remember Me took me down and it was PG-13. Hey Angie K!!! Not only have u girls turned LCx2 into Twitter addicts but u will turn me into a blogger after all too!!
Would anyone send me the script please!! I'm so behind! I didn't even realize it was out!! My email is ljcargile@crimson.ua.edu
Thank you!
Noticing lots of newbies here. This site is growing...
Waving to NB's. Hi ladies, Happy Saturday. I know kinda late getting here today. Will bbl, been hung up on Crossover FF at twilighted. Love the Potter/Twilight stories. Since I'm a fan of both.
...i cant wait for this movie...
Whoever had the brilliant idea about the overhead hoses being available in theaters when *Bel Ami* is shown...I agree with you to an extent.
Better that them thar hoses be at seat level or there's gonna be a lot of women scampering up the walls to get at the hoses.
And they'd better be very, very BIG hoses.
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Hey Jimmy Fallon. Let's see you do a "Hot and Bothered" in your tree for this scene.
The Crossness pumping station?? Yeah, can't think of a sexier place to rendezvous...No offense to Kent, and it's being renovated, but still...'let's get it on at the old sewage plant' doesn't quite do it.. :D Oh, I'm sure it will look loverly by the time the set dressers have finished...
OK... I don't remember an orgy, while reading Bel Ami... I confess, that sounds a little scary...
oMgeee
Can't even breathe.
It's true! http://belamifilm.com/2010/03/06/bel-ami-orgy-scene-more-details/
@angie-k yeaaaahhhh...no orgy in the book and he also hits one of them 'as he would a man'. when marelle i think outs him about being a deceiver of them all and a user!
OOOooooooo....this is gonna be goooood.
yeah, well we knew they were gonna spice it up even more if Rob's in it didn't we? everybody's just thinkin' it I'm sayin' it. Rob like women and I'll bet he's an 'entire woman man'. I don't think he loves any one part any more than the other...boobs, derriere, or face or eye man...I think he looooooves women period or he couldn't do the things he's done so far.
and half the things in the book were alluded to...maybe there were some orgiastic scenes in there that were understood for the time and now we need it spelled out for us. i don't know I just finished the book at work on thur. and was just ....gobsmacked! I couldn't believe he got away with everything he did! He got allllll the hoooooochie and the bling! bling! and a title he made up for himself on the spot...at the jewelry store after 'inheriting' Madeleine's money! Wow! takes balls for that kind of stuff.
I think our boy is growing up! *sniff sniff* wipes a tear...
And hot door sex! don't forget the hot door sex!
Remember when he was in school and said the story he wanted to finish with that girl should just have an orgy at the end? Maybe this was Rob's idea and he talked the producers in to it 'cause he's just like that!
shamwowS! ahahahhahahha LOL! you girls r killin' me with this !
I know right? who in their right mind would
1. say no to Robert even if he was trying to steal your inheritance? and
2. it wouldn't matter how much older than him I was and am, i would give him pretty much every cent on me just to sit and stare into his eyes and WATCH him talk to me all night. And the guy can ramble when you leave him to it. I would ....
leave him to the rambling...just go on a ramble Robert you go right ahead...love...darling...what? money? you want my money? ohhhhh...poo darling that's all the money I have in the world! oh! ohwellnothingtobedoneforitnow...dash it all...her ya go baby! now come give mama some of that hot Robbie love I've been hearin so much about!
:P
Omg...
Orgies are so not my cuppa tea, but, with Rob in it, I guess I'll have to make an exception and enjoy watching it... A lot. ;)
Am so glad so many of you posted that you recall no orgy scene in the book or scrpt, because when I saw the original posting I was wondering if an orgy had just gone completely over my head.
Kee--that was an interesting persepctive on why they would add an orgy; I also am wondering if perhaps they want to give the context of Parisian life and society at that time.
I recall from a while back that when Rob was in highschool, a classmate wrote a script for a play and as they were discussing it, Rob suggested ending the play with an orgy. This lad is a wickedly mischievous little imp, sometimes! I wonder if the inner child is grinning from ear to ear that he finally gets his way!
Get his female fans MORE excited??????????
OMG How can we be MORE EXCITED??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
My heart pounds out of my chest every time he's on a talk show as it is.
An orgy??????? OMG this is not fair to us...he needs to allow groups of 5 into the pump house every half hour for a year.
All I hope is that there are TONS of special features and outtakes on the DVD!!!!!!! Oh yeah.
Rob REALLY knows how to please his fans!!!!
If he just goes ahead and poses in Playgirl and I can just go on and die.........I've lived a long and lovely life!
@femroc--LOL groups of 5 would be good--anything bigger and no one can see :)
god I hope he never poses in playgirl!
I can't think of one successful actor that has, usually those that pose are fringe actors at best or celebrities without any serious credentials.
It would do nothing to elevate his career.
@ wens! LOL!!
"anything bigger and no one can see"... hahaha.
I'm beginning to enjoy this 'orgy' thing... (but, still, don't count on me -- I want my 6 minutes alone!:))
@cv--6 mins--little greedy don't you think? LOL there are a lot of NBs to get through the line
wens, I wanted to ask for a lot more than 6 minutes only. Though 6 minutes if better than the 'nothing' I'm getting from him now... LOL
;)
@ wensdazzaled I'm a NB so I'll skip my turn this time. The regulars deserve their 6 minutes or more.
Just make sure the "event" is taped and I'll buy the DVD.
@cv LOL how could you pick an amt?
@wen--LOL--gawd-a DVD whew
@ Wen... nobody is gonna tape my 6 minutes with him... no no no!
I'll keep to myself, thank you. In my memories...:))
@ crazyvamp oh come on take one for the team, and get a few extra minutes?
(are we 'objectifying' him again tonight? He is not a piece of meat, you know...;)
There is a party going on the thread above. But I have to log-off, RL calls...
G'nite girls! I bet, after the 'orgy' 'working HARD on weekends' news, every Robsessed girl will have some wet dreams tonight. Nice Rob-dreams to all!
:-D
Wen, I'll think about... if you promise those extra few minutes... oh boy!
xoxo, cv
I read the novel few years ago and I don't remember any orgy on it. Definitely there is A LOT OF SEX... A LOT!!
@ crazy vamp
I suggest that NB will only be included as substitutes if one of you regulars ladies are ill, or have performance issues (sorry that was crass...lol).
Anyway that should free up all kinds of time!
imjabara- I went back and read your comment in detail and saw that you remember Rob's orgy idea for the highschool play as well. gmta :-)
Can I just say, lucky, lucky Uma, Cristina, and/or Kristen (Scott Thomas). Rob will do all of this with grace and good humor. Wonder if this film company has modesty patches on hand. LOL
I am so exciting to see this amoral character *_^
@rpg-oh. my . dear god in heaven above holyeffinchrist its rp in the skin and doin' the nasty with is sex eyes sex hair and all the rest of the sexy pretty! and
'Ya know it's not like these period costumes are easy access either... There's so many layers!!! Will he just whip it out, or pants down????'
actually I think the mens' clothes were actually easier to access, (go figure)take down, open a fly, take off for sex sakes...of course the women were watched like hawks and their clothes were more difficult to access...more like layers of chastity for the women.
Rob is going into some really dark territory professionally and inside himself to pull this one off...(he did say he was asking alot of himself in this movie. now I know what he was talking about), and if he does, if he manages to grab a golden globe or an oscar nod or recognition? oh my god! We won't be able to ever get close to him again.
Think of it.
He'll be bigger than Cruise in Top Gun
Reeves in Matrix
Hughes when he wrote Breakfast Club...
He will be elevated to the heights of someone who will be able to command his own price, producer, director, script and anything else he wants professionally and personally.
He will in effect become George Duroy in real life. What do ya think ladies is he becoming Duroy in real life?
@yeah Solas you remembered that comment too?! Ha! I think he is a sexy little devil and is working the edge of our sanity if not trying real hard, (no pun intended), to drive us all insane with super desire...remember ladies ...
there is a chemical that is released in our brains when we are aroused orrrrrr
just plain happy! I think it's the same feeling that releases the phenethylamine. This is the addictive brain chemical that keeps us coming back for more. More Rob, more good feelings more, more, more. We feel good when we even look at his face. That produces the happy chemical in our brain and makes us want to experience it more...http://www.articlealley.com/article_799059_39.html this is the article explaining far batter than I can why we love our Robert soooo much!
We keep repeating the same behavior to experience the same effect and pretty soon we're addicted! Yep, just like the banner says, 'Addicted to Robert Pattinson'.
this also brings me to the primal survival thing that women do with their picking and choosing a male mate...yep, we ALL deem Rob a tasty pick and so crave or desire his company for our own. We deem him good genetic material to carry on the species with and so crave, choose pick him for our collective mate.
As a gender we know what we like...this is interesting because not all of us women on planet earth crave or desire Rob like we here at Robsessed do.
I know! Weird. How could you not?
Well, it would seem we all different and may only want a certain man for our reproductive genetic material. I have spoken to some women in my office who just don't see him the way I myself do and one other friend! Can you believe that?
I CAN believe it because i just don't see him that way either. I see him as a beautiful talented interesting boy. His character and his issues and insights intrigue me. But he is not what I look for or long for in a man, not even what I would want for genetic material if I were to be blessed with more children.
HI Wen, just got back here, but too late. See the NB's went crazy on another blog. over 600 posts.... wow never saw that before.
Trying to finish up the FF.net site since they're kicking all the good stories out. Seems they're all moving to Twilighted. Loving some of these writers and totally hooked.
BTW= I did not mean to offend or hurt anyone's feelings, and I hope no one's feelings are hurt, esp Rob or his family if they read these postings, by what I said above. And i don't judge or condemn whoever does not share my views.
@Imjabara
DuRoy obtained status and money through lies, manipulation, sex, and using someone else's talent for advancement that is not Rob.
Wen--ITA-- he is not Duroy. Imharaba- Doing well is not synonymous with being DuRoy. DuRoy was poor and did not want to remain that way. He saw men living well and not only wanted what they had, but also wondered and wanted whatever it was that got them wealth. And when he realized what it was -basically the women, using women in various ways (not just sex, but certainly including it) he used that force full-force. It was ends justifying the means personified.
Do you see Rob as like this, Imharaba? I surely do not!
It is true that Rob is appealing, and that thousands, perhaps hundreds of thousands, perhaps millions, of women and girls find him so physically and sexually attractive, and phantasize about him so much, that it translates into money and clout in making movies because these fans will pay to see him over and over, will pay for items and articles regarding himself, etc. IN this way, you could say that many if not most if not all successful actors, movie stars, music stars, etc are using their looks and/or sex appeal to gain fame, wealth, etc. That is still not the same as what DuRoy did. And although Hollywood had the reputation re girls and women having to sleep their way to recognition, to good parts, I am not sure if that is so anymore, and although I don't know Rob personally, I REALLY don't think he did any of that. Last, DuRoy's goal was achieving wealth, title, respect (at least to the society that only respected wealth and title). Rob has stated that his goal is to act, he certainly did not seek fame, and he has said something along the lines of: if he could do it for free, he would.
Nope--definitely not DuROy.
Whoa! ladies don't get your pettie coats in a bunch! I love Robbie I was just trying to get a handle on this money thing...I know he's said he would rather not be famous ...he would rather do this for free...
Solas you nailed it on the head with your further explanation of the marketing angle thing...I guess that's what I'm seeing...from here. I know he doesn't think like DuRoy I know that.
It's just you know how they say life imitates art sometimes? Rob's life is paralleling DuRoy's with the wealth and prestige angle...I do understand the differences though...you know how he got to be Exec. Prod. on the last flick...
I guess in a weird way it scares me about him changing so much that he won't look at his fans the same way he has in the past, he is doing right now. You know? He's getting older and he's changing his attitude as he gets older, and changing his mode of thinking about things...change is scary for me right now...I guess I know how well he's going to portray this character in this role and it scares me that maybe one part of him or another won't snap back out of it to the sweet good natured Rob we all know and love.
yeah I know none of us, me, really know him but you know what I mean.
Sometimes actors find it hard to pull back in to the thought processes they had before diving in so deep to a certain role...
I love him still... loads you guys I'm not knocking him, just worried about the change in his character for this role. it's gonna be something we've not seen him portray before and it's gonna be such a sharp departure from what we're used to that I almost feel like it might be painful to watch.
@wen-'DuRoy obtained status and money through lies, manipulation, sex, and using someone else's talent for advancement that is not Rob.'
No certainly not. That is not Robert. It never has been. At all...and it never will be.
I don't know I guess I just hate seein' him portray a character like this. The hitting the woman part will be hard to watch him do. But he's an actor. Soooo....this is what he's gonna find interesting I guess.
Imjabara--I DO understand what you mean about taking on a role and having that character part of you, even for a while. This is one of the reasons why acting is actually potentially psycholgically destructive, especially for a person who takes on the character at the least for perspective and insight into the character. Everything we do in life leaves its mark and trace--what we read, what we hear, what we experience; even background sights, sounds, and smells we dont consciously notice remain in the subconscious and sometimes come out in dreams, or reactions. Acting a part, whether as one's line of work in hollywood or as undercover ops, or to stay alive, as some Jews lived as nonJews during in the holocaust, also leave those traces, also have effects. It is really important for actors (and undercover ops guys, etc) to have an anchor in real life, in the values they have, and a life out of acting, to go back to regularly, and for a good enough amount of time to be anchored once again in what and how they want to live and be.
It is true that Rob is playing a scoundrel, a manipulator, but he is also near friends and family who keep him anchored. He is still developing as a person, which does leave him more vulnerable to the effects of a role, but he is also an intelligent thinking person, who appears to examine logically his own processing and experiences. I really do not see him taking on DuROy's characteristics, but i do think this role will affect him in some ways.
@Solas, ITA, very well put.
I would like to add one other thing. At least on the surface it would appear that Rob's regular life is so vastly different from the characters he takes on in movies that I think it will be easier for him at the end of a film to disassociate himself from unscrupulous roles.
He seems to be a very genuine, loyal friend who never takes his popularity to seriously and as you said he is well grounded with a significant support system.
exactly.
Another aspect of acting which can be helpful if channelled properly, and if a person is grounded well with support system, especially for adolescents and post-adolescents, is the opportunity to face fears, hang-ups and other challenges in a controlled setting. Sometimes, it is safer if one does this in the guise or context of a character than as himself in real life, in the real world.
@Solas ITA
@solas-'but he is also near friends and family who keep him anchored. (anchored is really important), He is still developing as a person, which does leave him more vulnerable to the effects of a role, (yeah, like oh recently, Heath Ledger?), but he is also an intelligent thinking person, who appears to examine logically his own processing and experiences. (yes I will have to agree with you there, all of this actually), I really do not see him taking on DuROy's characteristics, but i do think this role will affect him in some ways.'
Oh God! thank you soooo much Solas for explaining it like that.
'but i do think this role will affect him in some ways.' yeah see that's sort of where I was going with my last blog. HOW will it affect him and as a young MAN, in today's society? I mean his parents really worked hard to make sure he turned out like he did...although he is the raw material they had to work with so...I give credit where it's due in the first place. There was a point at which he probably didn't have to make a conscious decision to turn out as nice as he is....but he did. And that's why we're all here. :P
I was worried about he magnitude of the role he was taking on and like you said above how much of it will affect him and STAY with him? I mean also was the fact as we go through our day, everything registers on a subconscious level and some of it manifests at a later date in different ways...'Everything we do in life leaves its mark and trace--what we read, what we hear, what we experience; even background sights, sounds, and smells we dont consciously notice remain in the subconscious and sometimes come out in dreams, or reactions.' oh yeah. So very much. So totally agree there!
Rob is such a sweet natured person and an intelligent thinker.
He really is a precious person...one whom we need in the media right now. He's a great guy and it would be a shame if something went wrong all of a sudden. He's probably smarter than I ever was and absolutely more able to handle mental stress...so I guess I look up to him for a reason.
thanks Solas and Wen
you ladies rock!
I think Rob made a lot of conscious choices to be who and what he is; he didn't accept right away everything he was told and did not follow right away every path on which he was placed. He was somewhat solitary and pensive and thought a lot about this sort of stuff, and rebelled not just as an adolescent, but in an intelligent way. He has found that some of the standards in which he was raised ultimately WERE good, even for himself, but not ALL. I think he is still in the process of sorting that all out. A caveat for himself: even people who love you, even people you love and admire and want to please may be dismissive or even derisive of certain aspects of yourself, and you have to be strong enough to examine them and what they say just as carefully as you examined and weighed other guidance and advice. Not every idiosyncrasy or fear is neccessarily something to chuck, and if you decide on your own that it is, it has to be done wholly and not dismissed or denied or covered up.
Illegitimi non carborundum, lad, and don't let your own 2 feet trip you up (literally and figuratively) either.
@ Solas and Imjabara
Also we need to keep in mind Rob's core personality traits have already been established at the age of 23 and unless he is extremely weak minded (which I don't think he is), the likelihood of him making a significant personality change are pretty slim, barring some life altering tragedy.
Wen--that last bit-'life altering tragedy'-- is a key and unfortunately should have a larger scope to include trauma and stress. The life-shaking stress he experienced last year, going from relative obscurity to the cause of international hysteria, being attacked in press and on street (one of his life-long fears), having hs privacy invaded and his free-spirit living curtailed, are all actually enough to cause major changes.
Another factor that can stimulate change (not neccessarly good change at all, as I indicated above) is related to his self-deprecation, which can unfortunately lead to submission. He actually has (or really appears to have) an interesting internal struggle between the self-deprecation and the fierce sense of self, self-preservaton, and independence. He does not want to be controlled, yet he is seeing that most in his present field of choice surrender to a different way of life and its demands, including cow-towing to the industry, accepting stuff that really ought not be acceptable. I thnk he is told, even if ever so-slightly, to 'man up' and take all the dung slung his way becuase that is part of what is involved in his choice of acting; that he has to take the bad wth the good.
I don't think he will become a bad person G-d forbid, but I do fear he may get to a point where he will either surrender ('change' the way others want him to change) or will G-d forbid break down, or split. Of the 3--even though I find him tremendously talented and love to watch films gifted by his presence and talent-- I would rather he split--chuck it all-- get into his music and live quietly.
@ Solas I understand exactly what you are saying.
But I hope that Rob has a strength of character more like Robert DeNiro, Jody Foster, Tom Hanks etc. who have always gone their own way, despite the court of peer or public opinion.
While I think Rob is very sensitive person I also think that one of his strengths is his self deprecating sense of humour that he may be using as his public persona to keep the world at a comfortable distance.
Much like Kristen Stewart has said "you have to keep something for yourself", and perhaps this is his a way of remaining true to himself.
@Soas You are one of the most interesting people that I have talked to here!
Thanks Wen; 'interesting' has been one of the most common adjectives I have heard about myself my whole life, along with odd, strange, weird, etc. ;-) Interesting is so much more benign. :-D
Yes, self-deprecation is one mechanism he is using; he appears also to be using the 2nd person to detach himself as well.
I don't know enough about diNero, Hanks, and Foster to know if they play the game or not; i do think Hanks was everyone's sweetheart in Hollywood and still may be. I was never impressed wtih him, myself. If Rob is going to stay with acting, I hope he will either use London as his centre rather than Hollywood (or anywhere in America) and will look to film there or other places in Europe where he can be himself, or that he will find a way to retreat as Daniel Day Lewis and Johnny Depp have done, living their lives in peace and puttng up with the nonsense only when they are obligated re film PR.
And yes, Kristen was spot on about that; I tried to describe that when I said it was important for him to be grounded, to have a life outside of acting. He needs to have a real life for himself (and his loved ones), with hobbies having little to nothing to do with the industry, private and tucked away from the public. I absoltuely do not buy the idea that actors are public servants or public property just becasue their work has become public. We may own the DVDs, but not the persons acting in them.
@ Solas ITA Europe especially the UK where his support system is would be much better for him than the States I agree. Having lived in California for several years and lived on the fringe of the Hollywood machine through in laws in the film industry the place is destructive to say the least.
Your right interesting is rather banal. Perhaps better adjectives to describe your posts if not the person (since I don't know you) would be passionate, in-touch, and relevant.
Thanks so much! That is very kind of you! And those are such better adjectives than those I am used to hearing!:-)
@solas - you're good solas, you're good.
I find you entirely engrossing in your point of view and the way you've found our Robert.
'self-deprecation is one mechanism he is using; he appears also to be using the 2nd person (how so the 2nd person?)to detach himself as well.' I love learning about people's personalities and their charactistic traits...I think I should probably take some psychology courses maybe? LOL!
You know funny enough, I DO, agree with you on the last ...he should eventually give up for a time or maybe put aside the acting thing and just do his music! And yes, live quietly. I think that's where he was headed when his Dad made him sign up for theatre at Barnes local theatre company or something.
He's as interesting a person as a guy can get and for me it's even more of a treat because he is a man. Being around men never meant anything happy or good for me. All the men in my family were bastards and they treated me with just the least amount of dignity and respect that they had to. And that includes my little brother.
The fact that Robert is as wonderful a man as he is, is thrilling to me to say the least. It's like finding out there is a Santa Clause and the Easter Bunny and Atlantis really did exist as well as Fairies and elves and yes, even the Sparkly Unicorn we all joke about.
But I digress...I think Robert is strong enough to do what his heart desires. Accomplish it and be happy with it and then once he gets it out of his system, the acting thing, if he ever does, I think he will go back to playing his music and creating a musical life for himself and his other half. I also think he's getting the life experience he always wanted for himself...he is one for the experience. I guess that's what makes him want to be an actor in the first place or why he's so well suited for acting. He's unafraid of the world and the people in it and does like his free spirited life. Or loved it when it was his to live. I do see him getting that back one day. But in the mean time, he is going to treat us to something that no other actor has been able to do before. Every time he is filmed and we get to see his image on screen it's going to be like christmas and the fourth and our birthdays and the most unbelievable vacation spot we've ever experienced all at once. At least for me. The guy is just some kind of wonderful.
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